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The classical depiction of a Demon is an evil entity or fallen angel in complete alliance with evil and servant of the “Devil”. Demons are described in appearance as looking completely monstrous and vile, with horns and bat like wings with fangs and claws saturated with blood. Demons are referenced as the inhabitants of the underworld or hell, and are said to be the tormentors of the fallen souls condemned to this horrific place. Due to the current indoctrination of society and the media sources that present these figures this way, many individuals view anything “ugly” or “scary” looking as being demonic in nature.

The truth is that if a human being encountered a “Demon” looking entity whether in the physical or spirit form, the individual will fear the entity strictly based upon its looks. This is a prejudice implanted into the minds of the people as they view anything and everything beautiful as being “good”. The truth of the reality of this situation is that, the visual characteristics of a living being does not determine its polar orientation. There are races of extra-terrestrials who may appear disgustingly atrocious to the average human being but may be of the most positive orientation the human being has ever experienced, and while classifying these beings as being demonic, the nature of the human being making the claim may be closer to a demonic nature than the other entity.

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Based upon this entire article what do you believe to be the true description of a demon.



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Now what I'm going to say will sound perhaps totally alien to people because not many have the experiences I had. But I assure you, people do, and it's documented online. You just have to look.

I believe demons can shapeshift into whatever they want and even appear whatever they want to us. That's why demons have look different depending on which centuries you're in.

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My experiences

When I first began messing with the occult, images of baphomet, inverse pentagram, sexual perversion, and violence would flash in my head.

I developed sleep paralysis which I had for almost everyday. During the sleep paralysis I saw reptilian beings, short beings that look grey with triangular heads, so I attracted extraterresterials by reading demonic texts. They always get near me and I would feel stinging spots in my groin area, underarms, and top of head. Perhaps they weakened my aura some more so I would be more vulnerable to them.

I do have different experiences with them sometimes. There were a few occasions they telepathically told me that I use to be an alien in another life but that I had betrayed them. They told me they're getting revenge against me every night they get to mess with me. I never believed them.

What you would describe as a Sirian (small body, big head that is less triangular than the greys, elaborate silk robe, yellowish skin instead of grey skin) offered to give me all the talents I wanted if only I agreed to sell my soul. An alien offered the same deal the Devil or his minions would.

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Biblical and Illuminati connection

But the turning point was when I started calling out Jesus Christ because the attack became worse. Although I was neither raised Christian nor was I a Christian, deep inside me that was the instinctive thing me to do. I woke up immediately. So from then on, I would always wake up immediately whenever I called out for Jesus Christ.

Since then, I no longer believed they were the same aliens that conspiracy theories or hollywood describes. I believed they were demons/interdimensional luciferian spirits that masquerade as aliens. Perhaps the coming antichrist will involve aliens. People would be more willing to follow aliens who claim they're out evolutionary cousins, then follow demons. Now I guess they haven't appear yet because they don't have enough energy to sustain a long visit here (a lot of stories where "aliens" come to mutilate cattles, get shot, and then they disappeared with no alien corpses. Also, the video with the alien corpse? It's been proven fabricated by Warner Brothers). They are probably taking energy from us while we sleep, and through the music that are satanically inspired (a lot of musicians claim they get their music in a trance, through spirits, etc), or when they show satanic symbols on TV and we see them ( which explains all the occultic symbols they flash for a few seconds in music videos, movies, etc; or the satanic hand gesture they make ).

The Illuminati themselves offer energy by sacrificing children in exchange for favors. It's all connected. The demons need the Illuminati / TPTB to make a funnel between us and them for energy, and they need humans to believe in aliens so that in endtimes they can deceive us. They also needed Roswell that suddenly propelled the whole alien stuff in the media.

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What these "Aliens" Do

Once I believed they were not aliens, they stopped probing me. It seems by believing they are aliens, you give these beings the permission to probe your body because you believe it is possible.

Now demons appeared in my sleep paralysis instead of aliens. Aleister Crowley, an occultist that rockstars in the 70's have references, and no doubt the Illuminati fashioned his channeled material today - he has channeled an alien by reading occult text. I have seen aliens by reading occult text.

I'm doing my best to be a Christian. The attacks stopped now. But every now and then I would slip. For me a certain act of sin (not sins in general) would mean at night these entities could induce sleep paralysis and scare me. They either want to sexually stimulate you, suck energy out of your solar plexus, or scare you with dream images or hallucinations while you're in sleep paralysis. Sexual energy, Solar Plexus energy, and Fear energy seems to feed them very well, or perhaps they can't manipulate chakras above the solar plexus.

I am also more vulnerable about 3am to 4am at night. That's when I see flashes of Baphomet, the inverse pentagram, the inverse pentagram with the goat-head and different colors for erach corner (which I later frightening found out was a masonic symbol). Prayer helps. But something always disturb my train thought when I try to pray.

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Very interesting, it seems that in believing the information you receive you are in some way granting these entities "permission" to confront or interact with you in some way.  Is this a basic point we can make from that?



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RoqEL22 wrote: Very interesting, it seems that in believing the information you receive you are in some way granting these entities "permission" to confront or interact with you in some way.  Is this a basic point we can make from that?


Along the lines, yes.

My basic point was that these beings could shapeshift into whatever form best serves them. If you believe they are aliens, you do give them permission to probe you. This probing is a way for them to control you. Demons want to control us. I hope I provided a new perspective, and that people who need this information can wake up so they can stop being attacked.

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Understood, so along the lines of true extra-terrestrial life, do you believe any exists within or past our galaxy? Or are they mere illusions with the sole purpose of confusing humans into believing them to be the alien forms of our indoctrinated media?

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If there are extra-terresterial life outside our galaxy, I would think they would look human based on my studies in evolution and chemistry.

The same chemical composition that involves carbon is the only stable way of organic beings having organs, protective skin, etc. Life also needed plants and oceans on earth for the same chemical reasons that allowed our animals to strive. Oceans bring carbon to land, plants metabolizes carbon material, and animals eat carbon material (food) from plants (just like how we depend on agriculture, or the meat of animals that ate plants), so that it can be digested into their carbon-like bodies. We eat food so it can be digested into our carbon-like body. Sugar is a form of carbon, and it can be broken down to provide ATP to all our cells, etc. So if somehow far in the galaxy, simple cells involved into animals, we would have a similiar animal kingdom.

How would humans evolve and not reptoids evolve, etc? First of all, for the same reasons that allowed plants to thrive, trees would grow in this other planet. Trees have fruits that animals eat, and then when the animal spits out the seed, another tree grows perhaps in a more favorable area (the same way, flowers would also grow in this other planet because pollinators will carry the pollens of the flowers to other flowers). That's because only monkeys could evolved into humans because of drastic global changes that separates trees apart. Then primates would need a thumb for more grasping ability as they travel, more intelligence, and walking ability to forage for the fruits they need. They need all this to travel longer distances between trees. Only primates have this unique experience that allows them to involve into higher beings. Lizards for example, don't hunt for fruits from trees, and they don't need to travel long distances to reach trees because that does not consist their diet. Drastic global change that pulls the trees further away from each other was the key.

This is of course if you believe in the evolutionary theory. The creationist theory is possible and I can equally argue for both. But if I were to argue for creationsim,
most of my references will be out of the Bible.

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Very Interesting, does the theory of ancient astronauts hold any truth in your thoughts.  If the evolution of our ape-like ancestors was the direct link to us, what happened in the evolutionary process of the remaining monkeys.  Is the possibility of ancient humanoid beings participating in the speedy evolution of "humans" through genetic manipulation a plausible idea?



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RoqEL22 wrote: Very Interesting, does the theory of ancient astronauts hold any truth in your thoughts.  If the evolution of our ape-like ancestors was the direct link to us, what happened in the evolutionary process of the remaining monkeys.  Is the possibility of ancient humanoid beings participating in the speedy evolution of "humans" through genetic manipulation a plausible idea?

IMO, it is completely plausible. Our scientists have mapped out the human genome, can have genetic tests, can clone animals like sheeps, and finally, can inject DNA into embryos. All this can be confirmed in mainstream media. We just haven't inject DNA into human embryos for ethical reasons, and companies afraid of damaging their public image wouldn't fund these clinics to do it.

Advance humans could advance their genome knowledge and techniques to inject DNA into human embryos. They could even make DNA strands. I imagine in the future making DNA strands artificially is not hard (if you look up the chemical structure of DNA, it's basically a chain of the same group of chemical compounds that tend to stick together in a spiral fashion. So if you have ATG, or TGA as part of your genetic strand, A is one chemical compound, T is another, and G is another. There are only a few possible letter combinations that make up our entire DNA). And since these advance humans would be similar to our monkeys and even us genetically, then they could easily inject DNA into the embryos of our ancestors to accelerate the evolution from looking at their own genomes.

I believe if they had intervened in our evolution, they simply accelerated it. Scientists are dead set on the theory of evolution even with the missing link because the natural evolution of our ancestors would eventually adapt human traits. They were already adapting human traits before the missing link.

If they had intervened in our evolution and accelerated it, then that is one possibility why we have a missing link. The other possibility is that the missing link is obscured by mother nature.

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So how can we explain the origin or purpose of these demonic entities we talked about earlier.  What is their purpose, or more importantly what do they want from us?  If demons are separate from the "extra-terrestrials" previously mentioned, what is going on in the present.  Is it a battle for souls, an experiment, what are your thoughts regarding this?



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RoqEL22 wrote: So how can we explain the origin or purpose of these demonic entities we talked about earlier.  What is their purpose, or more importantly what do they want from us?  If demons are separate from the "extra-terrestrials" previously mentioned, what is going on in the present.  Is it a battle for souls, an experiment, what are your thoughts regarding this?



I said much earlier I could argue for the creationist theory equally. We've been talking about the possibilities of true-extraterresterials like you wanted.

The last possibility for why there is a missing link: there are no true extra-terresterial aliens, and that the evolution would fail anyways because these advance monkeys do not have a human soul to propel the right sort of mutations, but that God intervened and made men after the fall of Adam and Eve. If God had intervened, then that could be why there's a missing link.

The name of Jesus Christ also has power over these demons. It says that the Bible at least has some truth or all of it is true. This conclusively proves that the theory of evolution is completely farce. I don't believe in human evolution because I believe we have souls that were created as is.

I don't believe it is an experiment because the demons clearly have an agenda, as does the Illuminati, and they work together to bring in the NWO which the Bible warned against.

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Very good, we've covered some very interesting and important topics.  I thank you for interacting with us today.  If you may, visit my website which is the Conspiracy-Metaphysical Gateway where we provide all the basic foundational knowledge required to activate the awakening of conscious thought forms and energies.  Some of the information you are seeking may be stimulated into knowledge there.  Thank you Silver Infinity, and may peace be with you.

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No problem. It was interesting talking to you. I will look into your website when I have time. Feel free to quote me on there, but please not out of context. See you around :)

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"I thank you for interacting with us today. "  Who is US?

The idea of "demons" is found only in Christianity.  Otherwise, there are many beings and elements that are part of our world.  Some of whom Christians call "angels".  According to the Christian story, demons are fallen angels.  So then demons were angels and looked like them.  Christianity also teaches that angels are a fearsome sight.  So angels and demons look alike and they are fearsome looking.

One of the fallen angels was banished from heaven because he taught mankind to write (Enoch LXIX.I.9).  So who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?  If one reads more than the Christian books, one finds many parallels to beings described in other ancient writings.  It opens whole new worlds of understanding without negating any of the Christian writings.  It's like getting 5 eyewitness accounts with different perspectives instead of just one. 

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The notion that "demons" are strictly a Christian concept is misguided and patently false. 



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Demons or fallen angels are also spoken of in the Holy Quran.

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In a way, you're both right. The story of the fallen angels is from the book of Genesis, so it follows that the concept would make its way into the New Testament and Quran. I was thinking more along the lines of Satan which was an error.

But I still think angels and demons look alike and I could put in a quote from Enoch if you would care to respond to my points about appearance and intent.

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GertrudaRose wrote: "I thank you for interacting with us today. "  Who is US?

  Christianity also teaches that angels are a fearsome sight.  So angels and demons look alike and they are fearsome looking.

One of the fallen angels was banished from heaven because he taught mankind to write (Enoch LXIX.I.9).  So who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?  If one reads more than the Christian books, one finds many parallels to beings described in other ancient writings.  It opens whole new worlds of understanding without negating any of the Christian writings.  It's like getting 5 eyewitness accounts with different perspectives instead of just one. 



In thinking of good guys and bad guys one must first come to the understanding of what is 'good' and 'bad' according to ones unique emotion centers.  The information available today is explosive and abundant, try to imagine your brain as a computer downloading all of this information.  To meditate upon these issues with a clear mind and balanced energy centers, you will be able to learn as you go with courage until you achieve enlightenment.



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Demons are spoken of in many cultures and religions.Just a smidgen of research will reveal that.

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I've discerned through a lot of information through my seeking, and the idea of demonic energies influencing people does not seem unlikely.  The process of possession is classical and unchanged, for the only requisite for possession is choice of the victim.  The victim has the choice to decline the entity entry or permit it.  The catch is that the way the choice is made remains the same no matter what the external influences consist of, as they are ever changing.  How can we focus and remain in control of our being with everything thats going on around us?



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