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| Posted: Fri Aug 24th, 2007 03:19 am |
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Astrojewels Astrologer 
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Hi Karen, Wow, it is a lengthy subject, but I do know first hand about the offspring of a specifically programmed person because I have one! Genetic programming is always a good guide to understanding the child, because the first rule of programming is making the effort to understand the personality, not judging or having an opinion because most of the time it is like automatic activations that set off the child. When the child is young, you can easily see the 'base line' of the programming, but when the child and all children experience puberty it is then the extremities of the programming is activated. They are being programmed by their own activations, peer pressure, school, society, celebrities and modern technology, they all have cell phones. It is puberty that activates the chakras to open to full capacity and it is through these energy points that superficial programming is inserted, also a programmed person will be attracted to another that will program them more deeply, so boyfriends/girlfriends are also a threat. Each child must be individualized and you must teach them about their own weaknesses because that is where they will always be targeted. Trying to convince a programmed child strength to their character is extremely draining and a challenge to the parent. But if the soul-personality did not have expectations on the parent, why would they have chosen them in the first place. Each generation has a challenge and it is written in the universe through the planetary alignments. Modern children are extremely intelligent but easily misguided by illusion; the generation of teens to young adults is in the midst of the consumers delight and the earth's devastation, their challenge is to find a balance of the two. Good Luck.
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 02:40 pm |
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xanthas Senior Member
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I apologise for seeming clumsy but I don't know how to ask it otherwise. Where do abortions fit in there? I have a good friend who had an abortion even though she has three girls (she's Austro-German & he's Canadian). It was her choice but her husband was completely against it. After the abortion she still got pregnant once more, this time with a boy. Even though she always wanted to have kids & he stems from a big family, that created a major issue for them & the marriage was on the rocks for quite a while. Last edited on Mon May 25th, 2009 02:44 pm by xanthas |
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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Abortion is a touchy subject and many people are totally against it. I could not say where it fits in, I am not against it and there usually is a good reason why women choose this option. It must have been difficult for your friend to make such a choice, did she have another child because her husband was against the abortion? I do believe the soul personality does not enter until the first breath of life, the energy of that child (soul personality) does hang around the mother to be, this often resonates the ‘pregnancy glow’. I am not saying this makes the choice any easier, most women feel they are not ready, it is a life changing event, but the guilt of the decision later on can be overwhelming for some women, and it is this that they have to work through. I hope your friend has worked through this and her marriage is ok.
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 08:43 pm |
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xanthas Senior Member
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Astrojewels wrote: I am not saying this makes the choice any easier, most women feel they are not ready, it is a life changing event, but the guilt of the decision later on can be overwhelming for some women, and it is this that they have to work through. I hope your friend has worked through this and her marriage is ok. I know for her it was the one too many she didn't want... She already had three by the time she was pregnant again. The kids (all girls) suffered, too, because of it... Still, now she feels he's the sunshine of her life... 
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 09:09 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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That is great to hear, life is amazing how we find these special souls to enter our life, the timing is just so precise and accurate, the universe is just totally amazing. I am sure her ‘pattern of thought’ changed from when she had the girls to the birth of her son, and this may have been what this soul needed in order to rebirth into life.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 10:43 am |
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xanthas Senior Member
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Astrojewels wrote: I am sure her ‘pattern of thought’ changed from when she had the girls to the birth of her son, and this may have been what this soul needed in order to rebirth into life. I intuited that, too. I also feel the father is happier for it as well. At least his name will survive now... I forgot to ask, can the soul personality be 'picked up' vibrationally as being male or female? Last edited on Tue May 26th, 2009 10:45 am by xanthas |
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 04:02 pm |
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Sariel Senior Member 
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xanthas wrote: Astrojewels wrote:I am sure her ‘pattern of thought’ changed from when she had the girls to the birth of her son, and this may have been what this soul needed in order to rebirth into life. There are soul-personalities that are more dominantly female or more male oriented but nevertheless of this they all could 'incarnate' in any gender.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 05:32 pm |
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xanthas Senior Member
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I came across a quite interesting article today that is more thoughtprovoking than at first glance.... How traditional ways of raising children are the biggest source of Illuminati power. By Stefan Forbes Those who are aware of the activities and final agenda of the group of entities that operate the secretive pyramid structure of control over planet Earth often ask what can be done to stop it. The truth is, the solution is simpler than most people would allow themselves to believe. It is not what needs to be done to take down the pyramid, it is the blocks (humanity) that need to each nonviolently take the action step of ceasing to be a collective pyramid in the first place. Here is the chief reason why this Illuminati group is still in power, and will absolutely continue to be if this persists. A great many people reading this right now have children, or plan to bring some into the world soon. In the conspiracy research field, the “great” American family unit is extolled as being one of the great bulwarks that stopped the current industrial assembly line style system of control put in place after World War II and is being faced today. Yet it is exactly the thing which enabled and enables the agenda to roll forward. When a baby is born, they are nursed and nurtured for at least some time and in some way by their mother and father. They are fed, clothed, bathed, wiped up after, told where and how to sit, and cuddled. Which itself in those first couple of years of life is a good thing because there are serious psychological problems that result from a baby being given no attention and love. But when baby turns into toddler, this still, in some form or another continues on into adulthood, where they are supposed to suddenly go the path of rugged individualism. Rewind. It’s already solidly established that the first five years of life are the most crucial to learning and whatever behaviors and perspectives are taken in then generally tend to be the chief influences on the direction a child’s life goes and how it copes with itself and other people. During this time period the child is told what to do, how to do it, when to do it, and where to do it. Give them water, clean up after them, tell them what to study, what they will be when they grow up, what to worship, who to marry. In America, where publicly people have more freedom of expression than any other country on Earth, this stoppage of the flow of what the child, then teenager, then adult wants to do itself in life slowly fills them up with subconscious resentment which builds up over the years and ultimately manifests during the teenage years as “rebellion”. The pressure has built up and it usually explodes in these ways: Doing drugs, subscribing to the emo, goth, vampire lifestyle, joining cults, gangs, violence against their peers and at times even against their parents, and doing anything their parents say not to. It is tough for older people to read, but always infinitely tougher for young people to experience. Rewind again. The child is taught gently and patiently how to clean up after themselves and do some simple chores, with more complex ones added as intelligence and physical strength allows, money’s value and how to use it and save it, given a savings account as early as possible for this to sink in, and one of those toy cars that they can get in and drive for short distances. Objects burned in a fire while being spoken to softly shows what happens to their bodies when they stick their hands or fingers in there, as well as what could happen to the home if playing with matches goes overboard. Gun lessons early can teach the value of self-defense and what can happen to themselves and others if a firearm is misused for any reason. All countries who do this have the lowest gun related deaths in the world — see Switzerland* where everyone is required by law to own one. Regular trips to the library, where they are not ordered to read or study along rigid guidelines, but the idea conveyed that they read whatever they feel like. A child blooms when they are given real responsibilities, treated like an adult, and so happy to feel like a real grownup. It is plain to see. The forbidden fruits of drugs and sex are the largest urges out there for youth. Privately teaching them how they came to be and holding nothing back will remove the mystery of it, the sweetness of the fruit, and ensure that they wisely choose sexual partners. Drugs are another succulent mystery, and telling them point blank exactly what they do, as well as who really ships it in, and then allowing them to make their own decision on the matter regardless of consequences will be met with eternal respect and love. If we want to have children become adults physically and mentally we have to raise them as adults. Aerosmith’s Stephen Tyler was asked on 60 Minutes some years ago if he forbade his son to take drugs. He said, basically, no, I never tell my son not to take drugs, and I tell him if he wants to take some, just come and tell me. I would never so much as touch that sewage because I know where it comes from and who really stands to gain by more and more people getting hooked on them, and if you clicked the link, now so do you. Instead of pressuring the child, their true nature is nurtured and their true life path comes into view where they enjoy what they do for a living when they grow to adulthood, which might not always bring in great amounts of dollars, but which is better than a 9-5 vampire on them which leaves them exhausted, bored, unappreciated, and given disproportionate amounts of money to the energy they put out in many cases. More psychological effects are adults who are also pressured, apathetic, slothlike, deadened, and thus easy prey for the television and mainstream news programming sessions with all the lies and propaganda that come with them. This is what lets the black magic of the school system do its work. They cannot be blamed for anything because the parents are the ones that provide the initial programming base for them to work with. The spell cast over children in the “schools” only can work with what is already there. People laugh and make fun of and do violence to the homeless and say, “Get a job, and take responsibility for yourselves!” While at the same time not wanting to take responsibility for something as important as their own children, the adults of tomorrow. There are no excuses at all for this and indeed if this is read and discarded by you the reader, then obviously (and not feeling one whiff of emotional resonance with the Illuminati themselves), a camp is in order for you because now you now hold the knowledge of what their main power source is. This is what causes so many people to flock to the militaries and intelligence agencies throughout the world. They are still children inside and if you analyze the way they act, they do go off through their missions like they are in the beginning stages of childhood. Following every order without question, not even knowing who benefits from what they do, and never daring to check up on that or refuse to follow orders for fear of a “spanking”. One day, I saw one mother yelling at her child, just telling him point blank, “You have to do what I say!” Doesn’t anyone see? The praised tradition of paddling only traumatizes children. Yes, it will stop one undesired behavior but it will create a dozen others in its place, not all of them obvious. And nothing stimulates open reptilian brain attitudes like trauma. Reptilian attitudes resonate to the reptilian Illuminati and thus keep humanity and them clasped together by way of resonance. The fear of being spanked by the parent is just transferred to fear of recieving some form of negative stimulus from the government if they do not submit to governmental intimidation tactics. This is why so many haven’t mustered up the inner strength to assert their rights. They’ve been programmed not to by their parents! There are so many kinder ways to convey to children, if they have done something that wasn’t the best choice in the world, the message that they can do better in the future. I have seen an example this myself on occasion. I’ve even heard one spy who was following me say to his handler, “Just tell me where to go, boss, I’ll go wherever you say.” These types are all locked in to the “Tell me what to do!” mentality which has been burnt into them for as long as they can remember. If you want there to be no agents working to betray your home country, then you can prevent the manpower from being generated in your own home. *I'm not as certain re the gun laws in Switzerland as Mr. Forbes. It might be worth finding out more in that respect... http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/ PS: Karen, I am not adressing you here. As you know I think you are both way ahead of most 'average' parents... Last edited on Tue May 26th, 2009 05:47 pm by xanthas |
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 07:56 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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Good article, and the most part of it I agree with, parents are the initial programmers, and yes you can only work with what is there, I think the only thing that is left out of this article is that each soul is born with an issue/issues, we are not born ‘debt free’, and this is the initial energy that transforms our programming. Thanks for that xanthas.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 10:46 pm |
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xanthas Senior Member
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Uh, this is reallly been something I've been meaning to ask, especially because it seems to become more widely spread. What about all these gay couples wanting/having*/adopting children (*through surrogate mothers)? I know it's "politically" driven & although I don't doubt that some gay couples can be very loving & supportive, I'm still extremely circumspect towards taking it to a ??? level. I mean, men are now trying become pregnant which really makes my toes curl...  . I know the first case (if I'm wrong somebody correct me, please) was actually in the US a few years ago. A few months ago they reported on a Spaniard (who, admittedly, had gone through a sex change & then as a man, 'decided' to have a child with his GF... ).What is with these children? I feel like the poor little ones are going to be even more disoriented which will leave them even more vulnerable to all manner of having their brains & psyches "messed with" bad.... Where does this "programmed offspring" fit in within that 'propagated module of a family'?  It's just utterly bizarre, IMHO...
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 10:53 pm |
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DreamTime Floating through life 
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The "first case" of a 'man' having a baby was really misleading. It was really a woman who was going to go through a sex change but kept all of her 'woman' parts.
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| Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 02:13 pm |
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xanthas Senior Member
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DreamTime wrote: The "first case" of a 'man' having a baby was really misleading. It was really a woman who was going to go through a sex change but kept all of her 'woman' parts. Ah. Yes, it is odd...and, it is exactly the same situation in Spain with the woman turned man and now being pregnant with a baby... Maybe I'm biased here but I find the idea of gay couples having children rather counterintuitive... It makes me feel as if I'm standing on me head.  What are other people's thoughts on this? Last edited on Wed May 27th, 2009 03:01 pm by xanthas |
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| Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 05:40 pm |
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DreamTime Floating through life
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I don't know if it bothers me or not. I hope that they are just like other 'regular' parents and they would love their 'children' as much as other good parents do.
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| Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 07:38 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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I don’t like the idea of the woman turned man having a baby, that is selfish, but the issue of gay parents does not bother me at all, I think that gay couples would think more carefully and be better prepared for children as ‘normal’ parents are generally not planners of their children’s future.
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| Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 08:25 pm |
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MC Advanced Forums Moderator 
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The soul personality enters and tests out the body,but does not usually stay long,until it's ready to be born.
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| Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 08:33 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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MC, are you saying that the soul personality enters the body of the baby, while the mother is still pregnant?
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| Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 08:38 pm |
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MC Advanced Forums Moderator
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yes
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| Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 08:46 pm |
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Astrojewels Astrologer
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Would you to explain to me why you believe this is possible, or what the purpose of it would be.
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| Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 12:19 am |
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I've heard of both theories by different people. .. I. myself, don't know which makes more sense and which to believe. I couldn't answer your questions AJ but I tend to feel the soul enters before birth. It just seems a bonding can occur earlier. Any mother knows that inexplainable feeling when you see your baby the first time and feel love like you've never felt before. The baby is so much a part of you. To DT: The man/woman who had the baby was in fact a woman who took male hormones, had a breast reduction, but left the female organs so he/she has a uterus. Ovaries were not necessary because in vitro was used. The "wife" had grown children from a previous marriage. I saw them interviewed and although they seemed sincere, I could't help feeling it was a selfish decision that the child could suffer for. She can be teased and called names and the use of male hormones in his/her system doesn't sound like a good idea for a baby. The baby is a girl coming from a person injected with male hormones. All of this for two adults who just had to have what they wanted, were not thinking of the child first. Just my opinion.
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| Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 12:52 am |
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MC Advanced Forums Moderator
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Astrojewels wrote: Would you to explain to me why you believe this is possible, or what the purpose of it would be. I don't believe it,in a hypothetical sense.I know it,for fact.They test out the body,and are attracted by the mind pattern of the person.The mother plays an extremely important role,for she is capable of attracting a specific soul personality,one which can be according to her specifications. More than one soul personality can test out the body,but eventually one decides that it will inhabit that body.If the male knows about this process,he can coach the female.
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