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Octahedron, I'm very sorry for taking so long to respond. See, the way deprogramming was presented to us via Stewart was as a mechanical endeavor of going into the mind and dismantling the matrix bit by bit, much the way it was installed. Finding the parts and the programming attached, and merging and releasing them using hyperspace techniques is his main methodology. Ross does not work this way. He finds the cognitive errors behind the programming and doesn't really address the mechanics of the programming at all. He does not think it is important or useful to any great extent. He does have the persosn map out their system, though, so they know what they are dealing with in the internal world. When the cognitive error is properly addressed, whatever programming is attached to it dissolves. Two very different approaches.
If a person can find their own cognitive errors and correct them, thereby truly dissolving the attached programming, all the more power to them, but after all of these years of my own searching I think most people need someone skilled in helping them to do this. There is nothing like opening up to another, trusted and skilled person who is empowered to bring this about which is in direct opposition to the command to never tell, never reveal the programming.
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Polly, thanks.
Yes; I see there are different approaches.
The value of C. Ross is, he mentions and uncovers Satanism as a good example how the mind is been fragmented and he explains for a part how it works/can be healed.
He mentions the self-awareness/cognitive ability of the client AND/OR the "coach/helper/friend". But I think this does not always covers up 100% of the problems and there are risks to be expected with this (because of bad surprise and implants, hidden hypnotic links etc). Let's say I see the cognitivity ability as an extra facility of deprogramming scope.
Important things with methods from Swerdlow, Atlantean Magic, Runes etc. is the integrated information about the conspiracies in general and the high technology of modern mind-control, genetic manipulated food and the hyperspace symbols which are really the core of cosmic causal powers.
The Swerdlows also are open to the high spiritual way of Mysticsm (Oversoul, Christ energies, cosmic energies). Mysticism is not to be underestimated in deprogramming awareness.
With this forum I would add a third powerful method:
Sharing experiences, developing tools with others and adding knowledge about mind-control and deprogramming esp. with the awareness of hyperspace theory and mind-control technology.
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Thank you,
It seems Colin Ross has detected the energies and connections of cosmic universal spectra; and thus able to find hyperspace, oversoul and angelic energies.
Interesting is what he would find with them in relation to his experiences in practice..
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I may have to read this latest book, Octahedron. I recently found that two people I have spoken to in the mental health field have read his books.
To backtrack a bit, and I am reiterating this for myself, if a person has a memory of some traumatic event and that memory is causing distress and dysfunction, and if the negative energy of it is resolved and dissolved via addressing it in a useful way, even if the memory cannot be proven or is not actually factually true, that memory is experienced as true in the subconscious and can be treated as a true memory.
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this topic-subject is related to the one about "deprogramming is a trap ?"
I do remember Brice Taylor in case about her spiritual way without deprogramming;
Maybe Colin Ross can get new ideas from the Medieval mystics or so.
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Trying to undo programming will set-off all sorts of traps. It's the way it is designed.
I really don't know what Colin is doing right now. Teaching, writing?
I don't know of any sure-fire measurement or method to ascertain if someone is fully deprogrammed. A lot of time and effort has gone into making it permanent. Different people have used different methods to undo the programming with varying degrees of success. I don't like to discount any of them or throw the baby out with the bathwater. Didn't Cathy O'Brien (or Mark Philips) recently state she (Cathy) is fully deprogrammed? How does she know that for sure? The subconscious mind is vast and we, humans, can so easily deceive ourselves.
I know a young mainstream therapist in training, working in a mainstream facility, who told me she knew military people who said they had been programmed (she found it hard to believe) and was shocked when I told her non-military people have been programmed as well.
Thanks for rejuvenating this thread, Octahedron. I put a lot of time into my study of Colin's material last year. Funny, earlier today and before reading your post, I moved the books I have of his to another room. They were piled on the floor with other books and I had not looked at them in some time.
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Actually, it is possible to remove all programming, demonic attachments and everything associated with them almost instataneously but then that state has be held and there can be no falling back.
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