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Expansions.com exposed
#51
Brilliant post #49 Jacaranda. We need to keep involved and exposing our insights in particular and especially, because of the layers of deception. Expansions is one hell of a tar-baby! I'm still sifting throught the B*llSh*t mental-values-implants in my own thinking...and I was just involved for 9 months. I also like to flatter myself that I'm more aware than the average bear but that didn't help me there, now did it. Instead, Expansions info. gave birth to more confusion and crap to sift through. (Although I did gain more knowledge due to the whole experience.)

BOTTOM LINE: HCF helped me immeasurably in understanding what happened. This is invisible work we're doing...and to do it in a vacuum is almost impossible.

Plenty of people READ here and benefit. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH! :D Others, like Richard said, are too traumatized to talk about it and often want to shut it out or move on with their lives. (I was like that after my first cult experience in which I was more personally hurt). At some point though, when these people want community or more understanding...they'll seek this forum out.

I also tend toward more disclosure rather than less...more info. posted on the general access links because I feel that the good outweighs the bad in this instance.
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#52
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(01-09-2012, 04:10 AM)Jacaranda Wrote: </p>
<p>Well, when I consider your words I notice that the Swerdlows play on a weakness of any human being on the planet. Since birth we make negative experiences - parents who refuse to give into our demands, in some cases worse, lovers who break our hearts, bosses or teachers who are tough on us, etc. It grows our spirit, makes us whom we are. Many chose to ignore the memory from these experiences and simply move on. Others remember specific memories which have hurt too much to forget. We all have our garbage, but it is part of life. It has been part of human society ever since humans interacted with another. This is not a new phenomenon.
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<p>I don't see this as a big weakness; true, SJ use the uncertain feelings of people who are searching for the truth, but in fact; going after truth and the meaning of life, even when you're abused or conned by some "teachers of truth" is a sign of strength; it will bring you more close to the correct answers in a spiritual way to the right helpers or right information if you don't give up.</p>
<p>The teachings of expansions are correct in the sense that recognized garbage has to be released, their inside info and exercises are quite good for this; with this they get trust and empowered customers, many other exercises of them are also fine. Some exercise are relly dangerous for certain people, like some brown merger things. </p>
<p>the dangers are rising when they tell things about mind-control, deprogramming and sexuality. Their basic terminologies and knowledge about mind-control, sexuality etc are also basically correct in the broad sense. With this they also earn trust; then comes the thing: they convince their customers to be active with their money making tricks, sexual things, like depogramming or sex magick with the astral... THAT'S the TRAP, even if you are not busy with a (de)programmer; the idiotic described sexual acts (for deprogramming) DO HAVE a meaning, yes they have a real effect on Earth, and yes; like astral trantra they bring the users in a prison of astral spaghetti.</p>
<p>Sexual physical activity for spiritual empowerment or deprogramming acts can NEVER be the solution for spiritual awakening. It's a trap to the mess in the astral connections or in the mind-controlled auric field of the Earth.</p>
<p>Member Xanthas told interesting things like empowering your soul and overcome trauma with the help of listening to classical music like Beethoven, watching visual classical arts, enjoy nature etc. THAT's the first direction where you have to look for in case of trauma etc (i.e. after being aware of some correct basic concepts told by Expansions or other ) to my opinion.</p>
<p>then the next step is be open for real soul work, like the old German mystics i.e. like Master Eckehart, Tauler, Thomas a Kempis &amp; Jacob Boehme. I don't want to force this on others; I want to give a positive sign, there are real solutions available. I tell this only because to many people are abused so they have the feeling there is a true light for the soul, but only if you are looking it in yourself. It's to work with your soul in the connection with God with spiritual help (oversoul/angelic powers), not with external things or forced paranormal exercises.</p>
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Quote:The Swerdlows exploit this by telling you that you have been abused, in fact that all these experiences were designed specifically to mess you up! They even have the nerve to charge you US$ 600 for a 2hr consultation to tell you that. I am not saying that these rituals do not exist, but it remains suspicious that all Expansions clients are abuse victims.
Yes, that's basic marketing.</p>
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Quote:Same can be said about their news analysis. Of course conspiracy theories are interesting. The bottom line though is, what you see printed in the press, or displayed on the news is the status quo that the world lives by. It is indeed interesting to know that behind the scenes things work differently, but it doesn't affect your life. And notice that Stewart only gives a one dimensional analysis of the news...
Their news is like copying second line Rense.</p>
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Quote:Part of the problem is that we don't know why things happen. Most of them just do due to destiny. They are part of life and we all share similar experiences. Philosophers have written enough books to fill libraries and still cannot explain why things happen. Religion seeks to give a reason and still leaves room for doubt. We just don't know what destiny is and why it exists. But we can experience it. Sects and cults fill this gap by giving an easy explanation. The standard reply of Expansions is mind-programming and sexual ritual abuse, to explain your status quo. They then give you a solution to modify the status quo. Only problem with that, which most realize eventually, is that you cannot cure a problem which does not exist. And, while you waste all that time and energy doing that, you abandon what you should be doing above all: live your life to your fullest potential.
The modifying of the status quo of their "empowered" or "reprogrammed"customers IS the agenda of Expansions, ordered by the lluminati. To get upgraded assets for next things to come in the NWO.</p>
<p>Good point about "fullest potential"; it is in the inside; the living God, life, belief in yourself; when you are open for it. </p>
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Quote:It is our own weaknesses that lead us to be mislead by people like the Swerdlows. There is no remedy to life though - it is what it is. We can certainly smooth the edges by living in a balanced and serene way. By deciding what we want from life and then getting it.
I see you as a hero, cause you've openly told here what S was planning with you, and you did refuse !!!  that's a personal victory for you and us and also for the abused customers.</p>
<p>There really DOES exist a remedy to life though; I've just given a hint for working with the soul.</p>
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Quote:Once in a while though, when the past experience hurt too much, a catharsis can work wonders! It only takes as little as a week, and costs nothing. In view of that, why even bother to paying attention to the Swerdlows? Yes, why indeed...</p>
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SJ are an example of one the highest and most dangerous secret groups in the alternative world or conspiracy world; they tell a lot of good things, to manipulate in the end. There are more groups like this, like the Theosophical Society and different Rosicrucian groups all around the world who do the same. Not to mention David Icke, and all the "New agey" consultants promoting NLP, all kinds of turbo yoga, tantra and exotic Kamasutra teachings. STAY away from THEM.</p>
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#53
<p>Amazing post Octahedron.</p>
<p>'Member Xanthas told interesting things like empowering your soul and overcome trauma with the help of listening to classical music like Beethoven, watching visual classical arts, enjoy nature etc. THAT's the first direction where you have to look for in case of trauma etc (i.e. after being aware of some correct basic concepts told by Expansions or other ) to my opinion" (Octahedron). </p>
<p> <em>I heartily agree with that. The arts, nature, children, animals/pets can inspire and heal the soul. <img class="smilie" src="images/smilies/sleepy.png" alt="Sleepy" border="0" /></em></p>
<p>"Then the next step is be open for real soul work, like the old German mystics i.e. like Master Eckehart, Tauler, Thomas a Kempis &amp; Jacob Boehme. I don't want to force this on others; I want to give a positive sign, there are real solutions available. I tell this only because to many people are abused so they have the feeling there is a true light for the soul, but only if you are looking it in yourself. It's to work with your soul in the connection with God with spiritual help (oversoul/angelic powers), not with external things or forced paranormal exercises" (Octahedron). </p>
<p><em>Go within, yes. Be careful of mantras and chanting though because those syllables (and Sanskrit names) conjure up the astral godlets with dubious motives</em>. <img class="smilie" src="images/smilies/confused.png" alt="Confused" border="0" /> I'll have to look into the German masters.  STAY AWAY FROM Gurdjieff! </p>
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(01-09-2012, 09:58 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: </p>
<p>Amazing post Octahedron.</p>
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Thank you.</p>
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Quote:G<em>o within, yes. Be careful of mantras and chanting though because those syllables (and Sanskrit names) conjure up the astral godlets with dubious motives</em>.</p>
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absolutely !</p>
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Quote:I'll have to look into the German masters.  STAY AWAY FROM Gurdjieff! </p>
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Yes,</p>
<p>Gurdijeff is interesting, his terminology and teachings do give insights in the harmonics of vibration and music, however he is very suspicious, he is maybe of the same category as Aleister Crowley. Some researchers do say Gurdijeff was involved with the programming of both Hitler and Stalin. </p>
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#55
Check out this Gurdjieff book-review site--very interesting. Correction: He was Armenian and lived in Russia. I had mistakenly associated him with Germany where he taught on occasion.

http://gurdjieffbooks.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/43/

"Moskalev: In formulating his system, Gurdjieff took some components from mysticism (including notions about the nature of the divine, about harmony, about psychology, about the physical body) but he focused his attention on psychology. “How are you able to be with yourself, and be with others? This was very much needed. So he started his work here.” Moskalev is surprisingly specific: “He developed certain instruments with which a man can deal with his own psychology. Simple things like not expressing negative emotions so that they do not take root, observing one’s own internal state, [stalking onself-Don Juan] self-remembering was what it was called. These instruments turned out to be very effective.”

A quote from this site advises to read Gurdjieff before Castaneda. I'd never seen the similarities before now.

"If you can find the diamonds in Gurdjieff it will be a great training for you. And then you can find in Carlos Castaneda what is true and what is not true. Otherwise you can become a victim of a fiction."

quoted from:
http://www.messagefrommasters.com/ message from masters site"

Ideas: Gurdjieff claimed that people cannot perceive reality in their current states because they do not possess consciousness but rather live in a state of a hypnotic "waking sleep."

"Man lives his life in sleep, and in sleep he dies."[18] As a result of this condition, each person perceives things from a completely subjective perspective. Gurdjieff stated that maleficent events such as wars and so on could not possibly take place if people were more awake. He asserted that people in their typical state function as unconscious automatons, but that one can "wake up" and become a different sort of human being altogether.[19]

[edit] Self-development teachingsMain article: Fourth Way
Gurdjieff argued that many of the existing forms of religious and spiritual tradition on Earth had lost connection with their original meaning and vitality and so could no longer serve humanity in the way that had been intended at their inception. As a result humans were failing to realize the truths of ancient teachings and were instead becoming more and more like automatons, susceptible to control from outside and increasingly capable of otherwise unthinkable acts of mass psychosis such as the 1914-18 war. At best, the various surviving sects and schools could only provide a one-sided development which did not result in a fully integrated human being. According to Gurdjieff, only one dimension of the three dimensions of the person — namely, either the emotions, or the physical body or the mind — tends to develop in such schools and sects, and generally at the expense of the other faculties or centers, as Gurdjieff called them. As a result these paths fail to produce a proper balanced human being. Furthermore, anyone wishing to undertake any of the traditional paths to spiritual knowledge (which Gurdjieff reduced to three — namely the path of the fakir, the path of the monk, and the path of the yogi) were required to renounce life in the world. Gurdjieff thus developed a "Fourth Way"[20] which would be amenable to the requirements of modern people living modern lives in Europe and America. Instead of developing body, mind, or emotions separately, Gurdjieff's discipline worked on all three to promote comprehensive and balanced inner development" (Wiki).

I'd agree with these particular teachings as stated. The modern day incarnation--or Gurdjieff school for serious students is very much a rigorous cult--often overworking adherents to the point of exhaustion. They demands insane levels of commitment, and one's life is not one's own anymore.




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#56
<p>Octahedron, you are absolutely right in that not everything the Swerdlows say is wrong. On the contrary parts of what they talk about is true. To which I would add though that it is not extraordinary, in the sense that, it is not worth paying money for, when a lot of it can either be found elsewhere, or from within. I also agree that the truthful part is a bait for the shabby scam they are running on you once you have swallowed the bait.</p>
<p>A good example is that no matter what you do, you have to have a first phone consultation with Stewart. This means he can hear your voice, sense your reactions, etc., and in my opinion, to see how vulnerable or simply to see how gullible you are in believing his 'analysis'. We have seen from previous posts of yukesam, mmasters, and others who have shown their consultation notes that the contents of same are almost identical to the letter. In fact my own were extremely similar also. You always get the odd health issue, you always get told that your current lover is not right for you, but that you will meet your twin flame 'very soon', you always get told that you have implants, that you are specifically mind-controlled, and by time you have swallowed all that without hanging up on him, you are told that you are part of Satanic Sexual Rituals of the Illuminati, either as vessel, or main participant, or both.</p>
<p>Now not everybody in this world is specifically mind-controlled or participating in rituals. Stewart himself says it's 2%, but I do think he included those poor souls who are breed in underground bases, but who are not part of our society. Yet it is odd how anyone who calls up the Swerdlows is specifically mind-controlled. The behaviour is very obviously sectarian. And of course a part has to be truthful, or you can too easily see right through them. Instead you now have this inner conflict where you doubt whether he is actually bluffing or telling the truth and suddenly, the part which you initially did not fit anything you knew to be true, becomes acceptable.</p>
<p>For me, this is how it worked. Today I am truly amazed to see how easily I could fall for these many obvious traps, but they are after all very cleverly laid out. There is indeed nothing wrong with curiosity, an open-mind, or the belief that there is more than what we can perceive through our five senses. In fact, I know today that there certainly is more, not because the Swerdlows told me so, but because they failed to deliver, because their bluffs and lies caught up with them and the entire house of cards which I had built for myself, i.e. my belief system in their message, collapsed. But in turn this forced me to think for myself, to analyze for myself, and to live my own life for myself. In that the Swerdlows have been a blessing. I did though realize, like you, Octahedron, that indeed quite a few things they talked about were true, not because <em>they</em> said them, but because these truths are universal. And by looking at the world myself, I did of course see very quickly that there indeed is far more than we may wish to accept, and that when it comes to analyizing the news, or current events, Stewart really has no clue whatsoever. In fact what he and Janet do is pure guess work. I have tried to give a few examples here, and will continue to doing so.</p>
<p>The bottom line, or morality of my experience in dealings with the Swerdlows is that there can only be one author to your life and that is you, and no one else. Xanthas later reconfirmed that in the exact same ways as Stewart and Janet did. Today I actually do see each problem as a God sent gift to make my life even better!</p>
<p>You also talk about the astral and while I am not an expert in this field, my own findings were that these deprogramming techniques are indeed very dubious, in fact very dangerous. I was told, as you know, that they are designed to mess you up even further, and take you further away from this reality. When you say that they mess up the astral connections or simply your astral body, it would make sense in what mmasters said, and what I have also been told, in that people oberserve similar symptoms to schizophrenia, but which seems easily revertable once you stop with these exercises. I guess that the human body tends to return to a natural state of being once negative interference stops.</p>
<p>I do hope though that people who were sexually deprogrammed by Stewart did STD, because as you know, with his Scoprio programming he is immune against catching STDs (or silly enough to actually believe that).</p>
<p>The human mind though is extremely sophisticated. I tried to analyse consciousness and discovered that there are different layers of same. The involvement with this cult certainly lowers your level of consciousness to a point where you no longer question what is right or wrong, which is very dangerous as it makes you too easily controllable. In this context we have seen them trying to extract even more money out of clients than they would otherwise have. I was told for instance by Stewart that I would meet my twin flame when I saw them in February 2011, only to learn afterwards that it was an attempt to create a couple devoted to the Swerdlows and to keep the cash flow going. This is pretty messed up.</p>
<p>As far as consciousness is concerned, I have found enormous gratification by taking control myself, with amazing results. Once you do take control over your life, and start stirring it into the direction you want, you actually end up with the results you want. And then you also realize why Expansions is so obviously a scam, because you really cannot expect to grow rich by meditating (or deprogramming). This was already studied by Max Weber in the early 20th Century, after all. You get rich by working hard towards a sensible goal. And, because you are the one in charge (rather than some bearded self-appointed guru in St. Joseph), you also reap the results of your actions for yourself. It's far more gratifying than before.</p>
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#57
<p>The only thing of value I found from the whole thing is the frequencies. I would have never thought such things could exist yet they do. I have found some interesting things on my own with the various lion frequencies but am keeping them private so the Swerdlows don't find our more than they deserve to know. I do believe all these frequencies are like telepathic channels for the various animals and blueprints for their evolution, and that there is no "astral" in reality.</p>
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#58
<p>Thank you Jacaranda for taking the time to write these informative posts. I can say from my own experience that once I discovered the "POWER OF THE MIND", I found out how to take control of my life and nothing was impossible. I have conquered many things in myself and have come to terms with others. Life is just so much better and I follow no one person or thing. I use what works from me from diversified sources. When someone takes even a little control of your mind and starts to use it in a negative, manipulative way, the consequences can be devastating. Some find their way out and some don't .</p>
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(01-10-2012, 02:15 PM)mmasters Wrote: </p>
<p>The only thing of value I found from the whole thing is the frequencies. I would have never thought such things could exist yet they do. I have found some interesting things on my own with the various lion frequencies but am keeping them private so the Swerdlows don't find out more than they deserve to know. I do believe all these frequencies are like telepathic channels for the various animals and blueprints for their evolution, and that there is no "astral" in reality.</p>
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<p>You don't need their dubious (potentially harmful symbols)! I've been on some profound lion and dolphin trips ssimply by "thinking" about the animals. You can tap into their frequency that way. THAT'S WHAT SHAMANS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE BEGINNING, LOL!</p>
<p>The Swindlow Symbols don't have the corner on the market (of frequency tuning) and if they really did...charging people for this information is immoral!  <img class="smilie" src="images/smilies/angry.png" alt="Angry" border="0" /></p>
<p>Thank you for another profound posting Jacaranda.</p>
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#60
Re: Stewart's analysis of the news, podcast 10 January 2011.

Just highlighting the obvious association fallacy here, which is just hilarious, considering that Stewart is actually taking it seriously...

Quantas had trouble over India, while en route to Singapore. Quantas has has trouble on a flight from Singapore to Sydney. Therefore "something is going on" with Quantas and Singapore Airport!

My dog has four legs. My cat has four legs. Therefore my cat is my dog!
Stewart has a beard, Stalin had a beard. Therefore, both men are Communists!

The possibility that Quantas may be sloppy with the maintenance of its planes, does not even cross his mind. Instead, blame it on Singapore Airport. I actually do wonder what interest Singapore would have had to sabotage Quantas Airlines. Or how it would have been possible to sabotage a plane 2000 miles away from Singapore. Of course, with an Australian fan base to Expansions five times larger than the one in the United States, it is perhaps better marketing to blame Singapore Airport rather than the Australian national Airline...

Sometimes, Stewart, when you have nothing to say, it really is better to just shut up! I feel very sad for you, Stewart...

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