13 Cubed

[Astrojewels]

Yes I agree, and there is no reason to be rude because reacting with hostility takes away any control you have of the situation. I believe most people that are overly opinionated actually want you to react, they seem to want you to fire up and get going, become frustrated and it does really throw them when you don’t give it. The same goes for grumpy people, when you are happy towards them they do not know how to react.

[Astrojewels]

MN,
Yes I understand what you are saying, we have the Pisces/Aries in common and it seems to provide this form of communication that is empathetic (Pisces) but also no nonsense (Aries), as you say the Achilles heel. I personally find that most people I have in my life actually appreciate it, because they know that I will be truthful and I consider myself a supporter as I know you are, but I am not a door mat.
Thanks for your view

[Mercy Now]

AJ, 

Apologies for going OT but I 'd like to share  a view of the Pisces/Aries thang from my Irish grandfather.This was his comment on me :

" She'd dance with the devil that one, but God help him if he doesn't mind his manners!"

Not boasting ,mind you as it has got me in many a situation.:shock:

[Astrojewels]

MN
Nice words and I agree that the energy of these two do tend to take you into many a situation! Would I change it? No way. It is not just that these are fire-water, but that they are the first and last of the signs that structures this energy.

[Octahedron]

I told about  "vigilante programming" and "brain implants" to my brother-in-law, after discussing technology and mind-control when drinking a glass, in relation to the assassination of Dutch politican Pim Fortuyn, who was a big danger for the Illuminati.

The idea that secret services can activate certain people by remote control via implants, was emotionally blocked by my brother-in-law. It was he could understand the case technically, but it was he could not "emotionally" accept the world we actually live in, is completely different than he thinks it is.

When re-reading somewhat the 13cubed-book I remark the book is bizarre with extremes for the reader as well:

1st: Presidential Model case: very spectaculair and very evil, it is very sad to read about torturing children etc :(. The example when an entity said he was "the power & the light" was almost to straight to read that this actually is to be keeping in mind.

2nd: Male monarch: When reading about a guy laying in bed with a male friend who was a hybrid who shapeshifted to a white reptilian with snake eyes at sleep, I had to laugh for minutes :D, I couldn't help. The idea was so humoristic.

Extreme book.

[Astrojewels]

David Icke talks in one of his books also, but I can’t recall which one right now, about a person who is in the same situation, in bed with a partner only to turn into a reptilian. It happens more often than people realize however most people just can not bring themselves to talk about it. I have heard from many people that this change happens especially after they have been drinking, not to a full rep, but the eyes and some body characteristics, then they question things the next day and wonder was it because of the alcohol.

So how did you brother in law take this information, does he think of you in a different way now? I was talking the other day with a woman who was very worldly wise but had never heard of the illuminati, where do you start?
Talking to a person who knows absolutely nothing how do you begin to talk about it without sounding like a crazy person? Any ideas anyone?

[Octahedron]

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So how did you brother in law take this information, does he think of you in a different way now? I was talking the other day with a woman who was very worldly wise but had never heard of the illuminati, where do you start?
Talking to a person who knows absolutely nothing how do you begin to talk about it without sounding like a crazy person? Any ideas anyone?

No, I told to my brother in law, I will stop with this conspiracy talks so it can sink in his subconsciousness, and he will remember it in a flash much later, he accepted I sometimes have strange stories to tell, so he think he can argue against me while drinking a glass of wine or so. He knows about David Icke and ridicules him also.

I've strong assumptions he and his family are quite special in a NWO-agenda, the same is with his offspring: 2 sons of my sister.

Where to start: I think, with people who are not stressed by their business, jobs or childs; so, I think the best way is speak to people who are relatively independent emotionally and who are serious in investigating & discussing the news, science and strange developments in society. I think also speak in little amounts, 1 subject per case, so it takes time they will understand you are serious helping them to get a bigger picture

[Astrojewels]

Thanks octahedron, your brother in law seems like a bit of a hand full!
It is strange but I seem to be attracting people that have zero or very little knowledge of what is going on, I do not go out telling or dictating to others because I just do not see the purpose in doing so.

[Octahedron]

....It is strange but I seem to be attracting people that have zero or very little knowledge of what is going on, I do not go out telling or dictating to others because I just do not see the purpose in doing so.

Don´t forget this forum. There are many readers here from everywhere.

You and your husband do have incredible knowledge. Why don´t start your own website in your country and focus on certain things part-time ? I guess you already do with astrology, but you can expand this with general additional things focusing on health and psychology or so. These are ¨lesser¨conspiracy openings to the general people. 


Some of my experiences are personally this:

To older family members, I had spoken about the Illuminati Bilderberg group, because some family members had high connections to industrials and politicians. There were/are even some social connections to NATO secretaries Luns (old) and De Hoop Scheffer (current) and higher in European Union & Nobilty. I don´t thing genetic connections were involved here.

i.e. I spoke in 2 options as a test:

- Plain and straight: saying how and what the conspiray (i.e. Jesuits and Oil companies) is at a dinner: this unbalanced them, tending to fear issues and feel them uneasy, because they know Í have incredible knowledge of many things in general to share.

- Subtle: speak about some sensitive things like satanism and abducting children for rituals: this is accepted in the way they think it is a cult or done by idiots. The Illuminati agenda for astral control power is beyond their understanding.

Something weird: An occasional friend (much older then me) of mine was for years in the ´80s an assistant of the Pindar (Baron Philippe de Rothschild) at the Vineyards in France. At a dinner some years ago I got some information about him and he told me Rothschild has everywhere spies and tracking control systems. Of course I can not talk about the conspiracy to him. I found this quite amusant and his remarks confirmed me also some secret ritual codes.

Astrojewels, hope you can use this. 

[Astrojewels]

Thanks octahedron,
I do have a website planned, but at the moment I do not have the time to manage it so I do not want to start something I can not give 100%, but it will come, hopefully next year.
Thanks for all your advice, I do feel the way information is being told is changing and it does have to do with us going into the higher frequency, programming and the way people are programmed is totally different and much more intensely detailed, with the target of ‘programming groups’ instead of one on one. It is a very interesting time and also difficult for the ones who know truth, sometimes I do feel it is a personal test to ‘our-self’ and our ability to evolve and grow from what we do know.