13 Cubed

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Polly[/color]]This is a mind pattern which needs to be cleansed from this planet and for anyone who fell into it, they are in need of deep cleansing as well.  Not only the perpetrators need cleansing but the victims as well.

Exactly, I can't say this better in other words.

[Octahedron]

In the 13-c book, there is a type of people/handlers described as being ¨destroyers¨.

I think this kind is subtle in many people, in some way or another.

It´s a way of attracting/causing self-sabotage in social relations and a general kind of ¨vigilante programming¨ in populations.

[ShadowRunner]

i called in sick today. im going to the beach to read 13 cubed. i hope i don't get fired.

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Moon Child[/color]]

Sariel[/color]]I don't give my powers to anyone. All people have reptilian genetics, some more some less. Scientifically speaking, we are basically reptilians with added human/mammalian genetics. If some human race take over this planet then they would most likely extermine most of population because of reptilian genetics. Mammalian and reptilian genetics are not compatible and they should not mix together. However, we are exception of this rule.
We can't promote pure human ideal, because we aren't purely human, either, we can't stand for pure reptilian society as we are not completely them. People living on this planet should find balance between their reptilian and mammalian genetics, if they want to live peacefully and free of control. However, there always would be factions trying to gain dominance.
Well, liked we or not, we are part of Illuminati families still, even we are not full blooded, at least, not in this life-time. We could say that in society made of overlords, illuminati, reptilian-hybrids or however you want to call them, and the masses, workers, slaves, common folk, we are a distinct group specially breeded for specific purposes but still related to Illuminati families.
Now, if you would like to make a revolution or rebellion like Spartacus in ancient Rome, you are free to do so. However, I doubt this will lead to an idea of idealistic society.

Regarding victim mentality, they are people who are pretending to be victims, but they are themselves responsible for what happens to them.

No,we are not reptilians with added human genetics.The soul  personality occupying the body is not reptilian.Human and reptilian genetics should never have mixed,and after the Draco were conquered they should have killed all the ones who had this mix.But they didn't and that was to be the downfall of the human race,and the creation of the 50% hybrids in the Sumerian times.We can't promote pure human ideal?You can't because you can't get over your reptilian tendencies and your loyalty to "the gentleman".I can't,because I live in the wrong society,on the wrong planet. The people on this planet will never find balance,nor live in peace,until they learn a specific lesson,the hard way.Who the hell would want to be full blooded.You don't seem to understand that we have more royal blood than they do,because of who we have been.I have no intent on acting out a revolution or rebellion.Why would I want to do that in a worthless society?The bad seed outnumber the good ones,by extreme numbers.

Moon Child, your points-of-view are truly amazing here. I agree 100% with everything you have written here. Sariel, you are very, very incorrect in your statement that we are basically Reptilians with Mammalian DNA, when in fact it is the other way round! We are Mammalians with Reptilian DNA, hence the wrinkling of skin, freckles, moles, dimples and the hemispheric brains Humans have. Mother Earth herself is NOT messed up but Humanity has become so overprogrammed and manipulated, that Humanity has become highly dysfunctional and psychologically and mentally unbalanced.

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Moon Child, your points-of-view are truly amazing here. I agree 100% with everything you have written here. Sariel, you are very, very incorrect in your statement that we are basically Reptilians with Mammalian DNA, when in fact it is the other way round! We are Mammalians with Reptilian DNA, hence the wrinkling of skin, freckles, moles, dimples and the hemispheric brains Humans have. Mother Earth herself is NOT messed up but Humanity has become so overprogrammed and manipulated, that Humanity has become highly dysfunctional and psychologically and mentally unbalanced.

Avatar,

I also agree with this, and especially that mother earth is ‘not’ messed up, living rural I am fortunate to witness her at work everyday, you have to live it to understand it, the frequency of the birds, bees and trees and the way they communicate, it is totally amazing.

I do agree that humanity has become highly dysfunctional, yet I feel it is time to stop blaming programming and manipulation on our troubles, I feel the majority of us are educated enough to stop throwing blame, and start taking responsibility for what we are doing to our home and planet on a daily basis.

Mother earth provides all that we need, but we are never satisfied, and most of us can not even cook a meal without the ‘freezer to microwave’ directions. now is the time that each of us that consider to be ‘educated’ to make choices that do not line the pockets of the illuminati, to become more self sufficient and less dependent, because all we are doing is becoming totally useless.

[Octahedron]

As Earth humans we are ¨trapped¨ with the Reptilian brainstem, where our deepest instincts are located. Our soul is entrapped in the Reptilian brainstem when it entered this physical reality, I don´t state here that our soul is reptilian, I state, it is linked/catched/attached to the reptilian basics. We can balance our Reptilian characteristics with mammal characteristics with the ¨Dragon-Fly exercise¨which is written about in the 13c book.

[Astrojewels]

Octahedron,

I do understand what you are saying, but I cant not live with the belief that we are ‘trapped’, and yes we need to balance the reptilian brain stem and the mammalian characteristics, I am not disagreeing with that, but you are free to think, to process your thoughts and to determine your choices, you alone make the choices you do everyday, you control your destiny, to say the word trapped to me is a form of control it is imprisonment, it is fear based and they want you to believe this.

I personally believe and always have that you choose to be born, you choose your parents and accept before birth the challenges that will construct your life-stream, you may not know at the time of the occurrences that will be set before you, yet there is already the strength inside you to overcome whatever bridges you may have to cross. The soul and spirit is free as long as you allow it to be.

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Astrojewels[/color]]Octahedron,

I do understand what you are saying, but I cant not live with the belief that we are ‘trapped’, and yes we need to balance the reptilian brain stem and the mammalian characteristics, I am not disagreeing with that, but you are free to think, to process your thoughts and to determine your choices, you alone make the choices you do everyday, you control your destiny, to say the word trapped to me is a form of control it is imprisonment, it is fear based and they want you to believe this.

I personally believe and always have that you choose to be born, you choose your parents and accept before birth the challenges that will construct your life-stream, you may not know at the time of the occurrences that will be set before you, yet there is already the strength inside you to overcome whatever bridges you may have to cross. The soul and spirit is free as long as you allow it to be.

Yes, with "trapped" I meant; we have agreed with "being in physical reality", but the soul has forgotten the capacities of spiritual freedom, free will, creative power and choice; When the soul remembers this again in a complete way, the soul can take action to free him/herself.

The "trapping" where the soul is in physical reality, is a voluntary situation caused by pride and challenges like "let's see what happens, when not taking responsibility", "let's follow the interesting way of polarization, and see what happens", aka focusing the mind on the left brain characteristics and putting the right brain functions in the freezer;

this is the fall from Eden; Focusing on left brain use = Eve eating the apple; suppressing right brain use = Adam also taking and eating the apple from the tree.

We are "trapped" in a kind of hypnotic prison, caused by our own use of mind in "the past".

[Astrojewels]

It is a difficult topic to discuss with clarity octahedron, because each of us must analyze the words freedom and entrapment in our own way, I feel free every living moment and the only thing that restricts me in this life is living, because I need my physical body to receive the love and fulfillment from the people in my life, if that makes sense?.

We are in a type of hypnotic prison, yet we still have free choice, and every single moment each of us are creating our next moment and at some point we have to stop the cycle of letting it just do its own thing as you say, and the Adam and eve principle does not calculate in my mind, and it never will.

It is important to begin with what makes you feel entrapped, that is the only way you can feel true freedom of spirit. The physical body does restrict you but without it you could not experience life as living, all the great things we do get to experience.

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There is no possibility of knowing what a negative emotion is without physical reality. It is for knowing and then transcending/transmuting the negative into positive that we chose physical reality.

Imagine two free souls having a fight.
Soul 1: "I will kill you".
Soul 2: "Bwahahahaaaaa, we are all immortal".

Now replace with Humans, and you get anger, fear, guilt after crime, remorse and possibilities of forgiveness, atonement etc.

What is the use of millions years of spiritual bliss and wisdom without ever knowing or feeling transmutation and transformation ? Advanced Entities value Earth and Physical Reality for this reason. All that is needed is the end of programming by external entities to have proper physical reality experiences.