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Are We Sure That the Queen of England is a Blood Guzzling Devil?
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Are We Sure That the Queen of England is a Blood Guzzling Devil?
By Rixon
The Universal Seduction
http://www.theuniversalseduction.com/bookreviews/are-we-sure-that-the-queen-of-england-is-a-blood-guzzling-devil
2003

(Talks about David Icke, Arizona Wilder, and Credo Mutwa)


          Allow me to offer a little personal perspective here; I’ve met David Icke, mentioned above, and my impressions were twofold.
          Firstly, that Icke knew or at  least had access to a lot of information. More importantly though, I felt that in terms of inner emotional qualities, there was little that he could teach me.  It’s an impression that subsequent developments have confirmed. 
          In the past few years I’ve met a couple of individuals who have supplied David Icke  with information and perspectives. One such is Dave Starbuck, a retired librarian from the North of England, who has supplied Icke with ideas and  perspectives and over a hundred pages of written text. In response, he has seen Icke use these ideas and information and even quote verbatim from Dave’s written material . . . and never acknowledge Dave Starbuck himself. In  effect, Icke has taken Dave Starbuck’s input, pass it off as his own, and then  garnered the rewards. In plain language it’s called plagiarism.
          More than this though, David Icke has helped confuse matters still further, not intentionally, but through sheer ignorance and egoism. For example, where he  describes the Royal Family as blood drinking reptiles, he reveals the true depths of his ignorance of the esoteric. According to the German mystic and teacher, Rudolph Stiener, man has several bodies: one obviously is our physical body, another is composed of our thoughts or at least reflects our thinking. And a third body is composed of our emotions and feelings; some  sensitive individuals can see this body in the form of an aura, the more refined the emotions the more colorful, developed and defined the aura.
          However, where the emotions are self-centered or unrefined the aura is correspondingly ill defined, grey and colorless. Which is why some individuals have reported seeing lizard like shapes around members of the Royal House of Windsor; after all these were the very people who sanctioned the killing of Diana to protect the Royal House, so in terms of higher emotional qualities one can’t expect too much of them. Which is also what you sense when you look into their eyes, Robin Hood. However, all this is a bit beyond David who unwittingly is helping to confuse matters still further.
          After all, the notion that the Queen Mother was a shape shifting,   blood drinking reptile is so ridiculous that most people will dismiss it.  Unfortunately they may also dismiss some of the other ideas Icke talks about which aren’t so absurd; information about the Illuminati and the emergent NWO, critical information which other people have given him and about which everyone  needs to know. In effect, David Icke has become, through his own  ignorance and egoism, an agent of disinformation. More than that though, he and his kind were spoken of in the Bible, they were prophesied to appear during  the so-called end times, they were called FALSE PROPHETS.
          The following comes from Ivan Fraser, another individual who has supplied   David Icke with ideas and perspectives. Below is a short summary of a minor investigation into aspects of  David Icke’s latest book  (The Biggest Secret) and his star witnesses Arizona Wilder and Credo  Mutwa.
          Wilder claims to have been a mind controlled slave who performed Satanic rituals for the Illuminati at which she witnessed many famous people---including the Queen Mother---shapeshift physically from a human to a lizard and consume sacrificial victims. She claims that since her programming broke down, she has been able to reveal this information to the wider public.
          My own  role in the Biggest Secret saga was that I was asked by David to help him  check spelling and offer any further information to his initial draft of the  book. It was following my input that David was introduced to Arizona and heard  her revelations, which subsequently became a focal point within the book and used as evidence; to support various themes outlined therein. I discussed my concerns with David’s wife and sent David e-mails  outlining my concerns over errors in his book.  I have a feeling that he had  been set up with disnformation and had been the target of psychic Manipulation during that period before publication to very recently (September 1999).  Having had no feedback from David about any of my major expressed concerns, I decided to publish my findings at the David Icke website forum.
          Consequently, I was banned from attending that forum by David Icke. I wish it to be known that I bear David Icke no malice over this affair and the  reason for publishing this information is to seek clarification and also offer information of which most may not be aware. My fears may be unfounded, but I  feel that after reading this, you may see they are justified. And if my fears  have solid foundation, these issues need urgent clarification, both for the  sake of David Icke and his readers.
          My suspicions about Arizona Wilder (AW) first manifested the first time I heard of her. Something in me said, “something isn’t right here---a familiar feeling which usually turns out to be trustworthy, as anyone who has read Lifting The Veil knows. She was not mentioned at all in the draft copy of The Biggest Secret (TBS) which I had  read. David had not met her yet. When the book was released, people started  ringing me with questions like, “is it true about the reptiles, and is this stuff about the royal family true? At which time, I replied that I thought it was, based on the fact that the version I had read stated only the theory of  the reptilians and that certain of the Royals were involved in Satanic  rituals.
          Soon, I heard about Arizona Wilder. I reviewed the book again . . .  this time the printed version, and asked Linda Icke (the British manager of   Bridge of Love, the book’s publisher) to send a copy of the video from which Arizona Wilder’s affidavit was taken. I was, by this time, very dubious about AW’s statements. Her declarations had already overshadowed those of Christine Fitzgerald, Princess Diana’s  healer and confidante, which were prominent in the version I read and were not as sensational.
          However, Fitzgerald’s account may have been a taster; for what was to come, to ease the way for the far more incredible information which Wilder had to impart. David stated that he saw his  encounter with AW as an amazing synchronicity which endorsed his work in his latest book. How could she have known all of this stuff which tallied so exactly with TBS?
          Well, I believe I am not as naïve as David, and I know   exactly how she could have known. He was passing copies of the book via post  to me and others for editing. It was on computer. Both are simple to access by Intelligence people. We had also spoken over the phone about the reptilian issue. In fact, I am shocked that David does not see this as a possibility himself.
          This brings in another character who is pivotal to the entire “Biggest Secret” thesis. It was a contact of David’s named Brian Desborough who introduced Arizona to David. Brian is mentioned as a source for a great deal  of information in the book, having supplied most of the material upon which  David based his idea that Martians came to Earth and founded the Aryan race  which the reptilians used as a vehicle to overtake the planet. Brian is also  the source of much of the information David had compiled on the Babylonian world, its myths and how they fed into the sinister secret societies. It was Brian Desborough, a scientist and researcher, who had worked for several  aerospace companies, who was also looking at the draft copy of the Biggest Secret at the same time as myself; i.e. before David met Arizona Wilder.
          Therefore, the fact that Brian Desborough may be responsible for fundamentally leading the direction of David’s research, if not planting much of the basis of the book in David’s mind, is obvious. But then to be the same person responsible for giving him a so-called eye-witness to testify to the verity of  that information is highly suspicious. Brian also writes articles on mind  control and seems very knowledgeable on the subject. Is it possible that he could be directly involved in some way that we are not being told about?     As with Wilder, a self-proclaimed mind-control survivor, Cathy O’Brien testifies to having been taken to military aerospace locations and  NASA bases for trauma-based programming (see Mind Control Out of Control in volume 1).  David met AW and interviewed her for about 2 hours. Some of the questions were quite leading, but her testimony revealed an awful lot if you know what you are looking for. She did indeed endorse a great deal of David’s own theses; that is, other people’s theses (again including many of Desborough’s)  which David has agreed with. So closely, in fact, you would almost think she had already read the book - or had been given the information beforehand! Or, considering that she claims to be an ex-mind controlled slave, could it be  that she was also pre-programmed? Testimony from Mark Philips and Cathy O’Brien as to how arduous it is to deprogram a CIA slave makes me very suspicious that AW could be considered reliable. She claims that since her programmer died, the  programming broke down. I don’t believe this can be accepted as such, and external experts would have to be brought in to convince me that if she was controlled to the highest level, that she could be so deprogrammed now as to
 be considered reliable.
          And don’t forget how much influence her testimony had to the final version of David’s book. It was she and only she who provided
all the information about physically shapeshifting royalty, Pindar, the Belgian blood rituals, which were allegedly attended by everyone from Laurence  Gardner to the Queen Mother! Before I watched the video, I dowsed  the box with a pendulum and asked questions. I don’t usually use dowsing, but considered it may be useful to evaluate this case from as many angles as I  could because if I was correct in my gut feeling then I had stumbled upon some    very significant realizations. The basic questions were:




Q. Was she going to  be telling me the truth?
A. Yes. (Wow! I hadn’t expected that).
Q.Was she also going to be telling lies?
A. Yes. (Ah! As I thought she was a Multiple Personality, I assumed that she had been set up. So I asked,)
Q. Is she going to deliberately misinform David?
A. Yes. (This made me curious because I thought she would be doing it from programming. I always like to ask questions of which I know  the answers and then check as to whether I am interpreting the pendulum correctly. So I asked a question of which I thought I had the bonafide answer.

Q.  Is she a programmed multiple personality?
A.  No. (That was absolutely the last thing I expected. I
couldn’t see how she could be lying to deliberately misinform and not been a set-up multiple stooge).
Q. Then she isn’t a multiple?
A. Yes.
Q. So has she ever been programmed as a multiple?
A. No.
Q. She is going to lie deliberately in full awareness?
A. Yes.


(Now, that was only an initial test and I don’t put too much store in my abilities as a dowser. But I can tell you my line of inquiry so that you also know. )

I then watched the video on Arizona Wilder in order to get the full picture.  As I said, her testimony tallied so well with David’s that I can see how he was so impressed. He has always stated that he works on cross-referencing testimonies and synchronicities; as proof. Well, this time I think the Intelligence people took advantage of that one! More revealing, however,  about A. Wilder’s evidence; was that she demonized the ancient archetypes and occult images throughout. Osiris, Isis, Druids, even Harvest Festival. My own research tells me that there is a very positive side to these things. In fact, these things are exactly what the Bible was written to obscure. AW’s testimony was overtly Judeo-Christian in its level of gross and blanket demonization of the occult.
          This is something about which I had warned David about doing when I read his draft. Something, he promised to amend for the final version. But of course, that was before he met AW. And as a consequence of her testimony, it  seems, David decided not to balance out his demonization, but instead increased it. If I was going to set David up to make that mistake, that’s exactly how I would have done it!
          Then came some obvious bloopers with Wilder. Having  claimed to have been a programmed multiple personality, she also stated that she forgets certain names of  people. Multiples have photographic memory and perfect recall (Again, see Cathy
O’Brien’s testimony-Volume 1). This memory lapse does not happen in recovered  multiples. Her facts were either regularly wrong, or so full of spin that she was hardly credible. Other information is impossible for anyone to verify . . . .conveniently. I checked with two  occultists about her description of the  demon raising ritual and both stated she had it wrong. Strange for a top level  Satanist!
Then she targeted the  author/researcher Zecharia Sitchin and Gardner again, stating that they take part in blood rituals with the Royals where shapeshifting happens.
          Considering Gardner’s books are revealing profound insights into the ancient knowledge, I  am not surprised they wanted him demonized. I personally do not believe this adverse testimony against Gardner. I do, however, think that Sitchin has been less than honest in his  research, but again, the statement that he takes part in murderous rituals is  more than I will accept without some pretty firm proof. But proof is offered nowhere in relation to A.Wilder’s testimony.
          She states the royal “lizards” change back to some reptilian form when asleep. Considering how many of them were educated in  schools where they also lived amongst hundreds of others in dorms, and how many of them were in the armed forces, you would think someone would have noticed this incredible little transformation! She states that the royal lizards can’t stay in  human form at the scent of blood and transform and go crazy, ripping into  their victims.
          Very strange. . . . in all those years nobody has ever noticed this when they have cut themselves, witnessed wounded others, not to mention menstruating women, etc. Considering the royals are so public, there is no way they could never have been subjected to blood at one time or another . . . in public. I told myself, this testimony did not hold water, at all. blood. No signs there though either.
          I thought to myself, “this is just too ridiculous for words. David! How the hell are you allowing this nonsense to  influence you?
          Wilder regularly inverts important ideas. The ancient Egyptians were anointed with the fat of the dragon - the sacred crocodile. She states that the royal “lizards” anoint themselves with the fat of humans. The head lizard is Pindar. How similar is Pindar to ben Pandir, the Talmudic name for  Jesus? Reversal at a deep archetypal and psychological level? I think so. And  there are more examples too numerous to go into here; I think you get the point.
          As I watched the video of Wilder,  strange things started happening.  I kept  getting psychic impressions of other people overlaid on her face. The first was Ingrid Pitt, whom I associate with Countess Bathory---as she played her in the  film, Countess Dracula. Bathory is reputed to have been kept young by bathing  in the blood of virgins. Then, of all people, Jimmy Carter’s face  popped up. I immediately recalled David’s testimony in  his,  And The Truth Shall Set You Free;, where he  describes being possessed by Carter’s energy from which he needed healing later. Was that a hint that David had been possessed again?
          Then Sigourney Weaver’s facade came along. One, I had been  informed by a psychic that she is a predator vehicle, like many others in the Hollywood scene. That is, she is possessed by the  reptoid/Luciferic consciousness. I cannot claim to know that to be true, but it did seem to fit in very neatly with the scenario I was experiencing. Then  a face appeared that I couldn’t put a name to . . . at first. I didn’t know where I had seen her.  Then later I realized, it was the face of the head alien reptile in the  television series “V”, called Diana. A reptile in human skin who was conning the
world to believe that the reptile aliens were on their side. Was my gut-instinct telling me something here or what?! Was A. Wilder a predator vehicle too, and not a multiple at all---as the dowsing suggested?
          Again, I wanted more  proof. As I had been a nurse for 9 years, I am quite aware of body language and communication. Here’s what I observed in Arizona Wilder.  She was someone  far too inexpressive with her hands and expressions. She seemed to be deliberately  avoiding any kind of body language in case she gave the game away. I also know a genuine multiple personality called Patty who HAS performed satanic ritual.  I had also introduced her to David to years back, setting him off on the track of this whole Satanic thing.
          He refers to her in his books, I Am Me, I Am Free; and
The Biggest Secret; as a contact from Darlington. I know this woman well  and am accustomed to her body language and how she flips between personalities and how she displays quite notable body language if you know what you are looking for. I also have interviewed her priest (an exorcist) and her  ex-Harley Street therapist and discussed this subject at length. I have also spoken to Cathy O’Brien and Mark Philips about this, albeit briefly. To reiterate, Arizona Wilder was not displaying what I expected in terms of body language. 
          Everything I observed told me she was hiding something. This prompted me to contact the aforementioned expert; a professional therapist, specializing in multiple personalities and victims of sexual abuse, including those from government level pedophile circles. I   had introduced her, also,  to David a couple of years ago and he mentions her in TBS. ‘
          This qualified specialist looked at the video and agreed with my analysis. AW was not a multiple,  nor seems to have ever been one. Her body language did not reveal this and  suggested that she was deliberately lying and trying to keep from revealing this. She also has grave concerns about David, his health, his reptilian
thesis, and that he may be under a great deal of pressure and psychic attack  from those trying to pervert his work. She agreed that what I suspected was  the more likely case - AW is a deliberate set up and her testimony is absolutely not to be trusted. I also emailed Cathy O’Brien and Mark Philips for a comment from them, but got no response. I later heard from  another contact that they were avoiding speaking out about David’s latest book.
          I later got calls from some very concerned people telling me that Arizona Wilder  tripped their inner warning bells so much that they couldn’t accept her  testimony and for that reason were very dubious about the book. Others  contacted me to say they were seeing negative energies around David. If Arizona Wilder is a Satanist and has the kind of power she claims - and she would have to be one of the world’s most powerful magicians to work for the global elite in  their highest rituals - then David is in extreme danger of being infected by her demonic magic if he spends any time with her.
          If I am wrong, and she is a  multiple, but has not recovered, she may be working on David without either his or her knowledge. She also claims to be part of a church involved in  satanic ritual. But she also claims to be out of it. But she also knows enough to warn people about forthcoming rituals. Is she in, or is she out? Who can tell?
          A very important question. Why is she still walking  around, unfettered,  considering the nature of the information that she is revealing? How did they let her programming slip? How come she was performing rituals with the likes of Tony Blair (her words--and that means it must be very recent) at a time  when her programming was coming apart? I have seen the chaos  that Patti, a bona-fide mind control victim, goes through as she has steadily regained coherence over the years. So, this is the woman, Arizona Wilder, that we are to believe  was performing the highest level rituals in the world?
           Give me a break!  I finally phoned Linda Icke and told her of my concerns, as well as my concerns over David’s historical inaccuracies, lack of occult understanding, and flaws in his reptilian thesis. I said I was also concerned because he had stated on radio that he was unusually drained of energy and had been ill for a while. She agreed I may be right, but that David has to face his
own mistakes and defend himself in his own way. Amazingly, when I told her what had transpired with my video viewing and my subsequent research, she told me that David doesn’t actually trust Arizona Wilder. “He’s the first to say "you can’t  trust her," she said!
          So, why is he selling a 2-hour interview with the woman? Why is he accepting her testimony at all? Why has he refashioned so much of his work around her claims? If it hadn’t been for  her, the text would be far less sensational, less risible and have a far more
balanced analysis of the occult. This single, solitary woman has so overshadowed the real information in TBS that I no longer am able to trust a lot of it simply on David’s say so. I no longer trust David’s previously excellent antenna for  getting to the truth.
          Has Wilder also done something to David to lower his  guard and turn him around? He certainly does not seem to me to be the same man  he was. And that is what I am hearing time and time again from other people,  too. I decided to contact two people whom I know and trust  and who I consider to  be as knowledgeable about the psychic aspects as anyone could be. They both said the video was total nonsense. One (a well known author and  Remote Viewing and mind control expert) agreed with my analysis 100%, that she
was part of an Intelligence set up.
          I then showed Patti, my victim acquaintance; she called the video,  “a piece of sh*t”. But granted, she may not be considered the ideal judge.   I had reports of people who sponsored David’s lectures who were so disturbed by  the “incredibility” of the video that they stated that if it were not for the  fact that it was David supporting it, they would never have sold it.
          Then consider the Illuminati ritual post on the  Icke website, which I refer to in my  chapter, The Predators (Truth Campaign magazine 14). A. Wilder and David warn people  about key dates and asked them to send love and light to the “reptiles (?!). As I
pointed out in the article, this only feeds the problem as they are feeding an  illusion - a psychotronic virus.
          Moreover, on one of the dates mentioned, I attended, but did not partake in a mass channeling meditation, which was  actually a guided meditation which opened the participating crowd up to predator possession. I feel compelled to see this as further confirmation that the entire A. Wilder  scenario is part of a wider conspiracy to jointly  misinform, psychically attack and control the audience!
          Who is influencing  David Icke and why? The results of taking his book to heart and then following his advice, produced sinister implications.
          Another scenario: the solar eclipse, another blood ritual date according to Arizona Wilder. For that particular eclipse, David went to the Great Pyramid in Egypt and made all kinds of superficial comments about what seemed to be going on there. He said people were prevented from going in, that the attendees may be using underground tunnels to get in to do their blood rituals etc. There was absolutely no proof of that at all.
          Everything was adequately explained by Amargi Hiller (an independent journalist who works closely investigating the Giza site) in a message which was posted on David’s Forum. But what did David do? On this very powerful day, he had people all over the world sending  thought energy based upon the most horrific images of blood-spattered tombs  and child sacrifice, DIRECTED AT PERHAPS THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY POINT IN THE
WORLD! Did they really need to do a blood ritual with that kind of energy focused on it?
          Is this another way that David has been set up to actually do
 the very job he is trying to expose? (I refer you to my chapter on the
 predators to see how that may fit into the Illuminati agenda). Soon after this, David re-emerged from a trip to Africa announcing a new video called, “The Reptilian Agenda”, which is an interview with a Zulu shaman called Credo Mutwa, who is confirming the existence of shapeshifting reptilians. Credo  recounts various ancient Zulu myths about the reptilian race which manipulates  mankind, which are taken literally by himself and Icke and seen as remarkable
confirmation of the reptile/human-race theory; although Credos version is that the race actually originated on Earth, left it and returned. Furthermore, the central reptile/Aryan race thesis is fundamentally challenged by Mutwa’s  assertion that the black leaders of his country, and their bloodlines are from  the reptilian race, also. Mutwa also speaks about personal encounters with
 grey aliens, which he states are servants of the reptilians. He recounts eating the grey, rather dry; skin of the greys - which caused an  hallucinogenic experience very reminiscent of LSD or similar drug experiences, as well as a rash and intense itching.
          This, again, parallels MKULTRA mind control experiments/implantation experiences described by military abductees.  Mutwa elsewhere, rather contradictorily, states elsewhere that greys are actually reptilians with an artificial skin. This contradiction is not challenged by Icke.
          Interestingly, this man claims to have been abducted 40 years ago by greys, had something stuffed up his nose into his head, etc. In an interview with The Spectrum Newspaper, Mutwa recalls walking down the street one day when a man approached him and quizzed him about knowing him from somewhere, and he recalled a memory about being in the underground facility where he was taken following his abduction, where he was experimented on by greys--- in ways remarkably consistent with the classic MILAB (Military
Abduction) scenario.
          Mutwa also states in the interview that this exact same  thing has happened to many of his people. The link with Montauk is also
interesting. One engineer working on the Montauk Project, Preston Nichols,  talks of having worked in the project - which included abductions for mind control. He says he remembers working in underground bases where greys and a reptilian creature also were. He recovered the memory of this after being  confronted in the street by a man quizzing him on having seen him somewhere before. This parallel, almost identical, scenario seems to be too coincidental.
          I think the greys and reptoid were implants in the vein
described by Helmut Lammer in his book MILABS. Both tales have all the hallmarks of mind control. Mutwa is therefore, for my money, not a credible witness for David Icke. David sees Mutwa as proof of his thesis (in his TBS book)  and has since slightly altered aspects of his views to accommodate Mutwa’s new information. Again, there is severe doubt cast on yet another of  David’s main sources of information on the reptilian issue.
          Nevertheless, the alien abduction issue aside, Mutwa seems a very genuine and sincere man, bravely determined to tell the world about what he feels is the plight of his people and their dreadful manipulation by the Illuminati forces. His interview with Spectrum can be read on the spectrum website. http://wwwspectrumnews.com)    Both Mutwa and Wilder may be consciously, absolutely genuine in recounting their experiences according to their memories. But knowing what we do about the long history of  Illuminati-intelligence-military abduction and false memory implantation,
mind-control etc., for propaganda purposes, (subversion and discrediting of witnesses), I believe we need to be extremely careful before buying into what two seemingly circumstantial stories relate.  Given what we know of their backgrounds, and that there is no concrete evidence proffered, one must tread carefully before ingesting this hook-line and sinker.
          One testimony involves a self-admitted  Illuminati agent, and the other a self-admitted, alien abductee. I ask    you to consider this. Ask yourself who benefits from you buying into Wilder’s and Credo Mutwa’s stories? Then consider what David says himself, “JUST A   COINCIDENCE, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!”
           What you decide is entirely up to you; I am just giving this from my viewpoint. I may be wrong. If I am, I apologize  unreservedly for casting aspersions on those who may be genuine. But I do think there are enough doubts to warrant further explanation. Because if Wielder’s and Desborough’s claims in The Biggest Secret are  essentially true, then it needs to be acted upon as a matter of urgency.
          The evidence, however,  needs to be as accurate and enforceable as possible. At present, I don’t believe that a large amount of the “so-called” evidence; is any more than  highly speculative, inaccurate and suspicious. Does anybody have any more   information to add to this? Do David or Brian Desborough have any information to give us to show us we can trust Wilder? Is there anything David  could tell us about Brian Desborough’s background to allay any doubts we may  have about his integrity, considering his massive influence in the content and direction of The Biggest Secret? Does anybody have any direct proof of any  of the wild claims being made?
          For example, if Mutwa has captured greys and  eaten them, then are there any remains, photographs or corroborating witnesses  to present?  Until some actual evidence of this story appears, all we have is a very good draft of a science fiction novel that still needs careful work to iron out the inconsistencies in the plot. I wonder how many of the loopholes in the story will be closed as the thesis is conveniently ironed out over time, so that it serves as the master-theory of conspiracy theories?
          How many remarkable witnesses will appear who have more pieces of the jigsaw as David strives to prove that his theory is really the Biggest Secret?
          One historical inconsistency of David’s book has been closed by Mutwa when he tells of how the reptilians ordered that no direct image of their real  appearance was to be depicted by anyone, otherwise that would mean instant death. This conveniently closes a loophole which David missed in his book,  that despite claims by him to the contrary, there are actually very few depictions of reptilian gods in ancient sources. Of course we now know why.
          Instead, we are told, people depicted them in code, using various ciphers such  as fish scaled creatures instead of reptilian scales etc. But oddly, in an  interview with Jeff Rense on his Sightings radio show on 14 October 1999,  Mutwa claimed that the figure of Darth Maul - the alien baddie (in the latest  Star Wars movie) is an absolute dead ringer for one of these gods, right
down to the color. As of yet, I have not heard of the mass demise of George Lucas or the Star Wars makeup department and design team.
          As in the above example of the grey flesh vs. artificial skin contradiction, such inconsistencies go unchallenged by Icke, and it seems, by most of his audience.
          David has an excellent track record of bringing hard to get information into the wider public arena. He has worked extremely hard and endured a great deal of ridicule for courageously speaking out and standing up for what he believes. It would be, “The Biggest Shame” if his efforts and work were to be overtaken and used by the very forces he seeks to expose.


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#2
Wow...this was some read. At first, when I saw the size and print of this article, I was just going to skip it, but I am glad that I actually did read it.
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#3
Thanks for reading it. I took some time to reformat the article for the forum. I was also afraid people would skip reading the article.

If people want to know if David Icke is for reals, they could try double checking everything that was said.
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#4
That is a long read. I don't agree with a lot of the things said in this article but I agree that David is a questionable person. Some things he gets right and other things he gets wrong. Plus he is into a lot of new age beliefs.
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#5
Well I've had my reservations about Icke for sometime now as well but ,call me crazyicon_wink,  I  have seen reptoids and what I refer to as "reptilian/ Luciferic  overlays" since before I even read or had heard any of the info. 
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#6
Are shapeshifters sarcastic people?
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#7
The question and answer part here is a lie.The part about whether Jennifer is programmed,whether she's a multiple.There are many out there who serve to confuse.
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#8
That's a fine response...
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