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Controlled Opposition Clarification
#21
[color=#0000ff Wrote:Hissil[/color]]I dont see how icke is controlled opposition what new age beliefs he talks about are disinformation?
Well, for starters Icke use to claim he was the messiah. He also claims he is in communication with ascended masters. He says he is guided by souls from other dimensions. He has involved himself in channeling. He promotes taking the drug Ayahuasca and that just opens your mind up for programming.

I like Icke but he’s just like a lot of other people out there that are selling a mixture of truth and disinfo.
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#22
DMT does not open your mind up for programming. DMT is produced by the pineal gland when you sleep this is a FACT. Icke claimed that EVERYONE is a messiah. Half of what you said is not true and the other half of what you said implies you know which channels are and are not trustable. Maybe you think all channeling is untrustable. There is no proof to this.
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#23
[color="#800080 Wrote:Richard[/color]]
[color="#0000ff Wrote:Hissil[/color]]I dont see how icke is controlled opposition what new age beliefs he talks about are disinformation?
Well, for starters Icke use to claim he was the messiah. He also claims he is in communication with ascended masters. He says he is guided by souls from other dimensions. He has involved himself in channeling. He promotes taking the drug Ayahuasca and that just opens your mind up for programming.

I like Icke but he’s just like a lot of other people out there that are selling a mixture of truth and disinfo.
Hissil DMT is not the drug Rich mentioned. Ayahuasca is [if I remember right], a very very powerful hallucinogen. While DMT is human made by the Pineal gland,and can be made, this drug is a natural plant type substance. If I remember right,it grows in the jungles in SA,according to a woman interviewed who researches natural drugs [yes she and her group actually try them as she claimed].  I do agree it can open you up to programming of some sort,amongst other side effects.
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#24
[color=#0000ff Wrote:Hissil[/color]] Maybe you think all channeling is untrustable. There is no proof to this.

You’re right that I don’t trust channeling. Most of it is beamed to people’s heads from government satellites. You’re right there’s no proof but there’s also no proof that channeling can be trusted.
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#25
Our power to Know is one of our greatest assets. Truth is truth wherever you hear it. It is easy to forget that 'the perfection of wisdom is all that is' when looking at this world.
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#26
There is controlled opposition AND there is uncontrolled opposition in this solar system.

An interesting story is Projekt Aldebaran of the 2 married people Karin Feistle and Rainer Feistle related to the Vril-society about the interrupts from Aldebaran in the NWO.

http://www.amazon.de/Projekt-Aldebaran-K...595&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.de/Unternehmen-Aldebar...595&sr=8-3

The German NWO-Government can not control some alien groups who are reprogramming some individuals and surpass NWO-implants and NWO-programs.

Another interesting "opposition" is that of Jan van Helsing versus German Government. (Akte Jan van Helsing) and Richard Hoagland versus NASA.

http://www.fast-geheim.de/janvanhelsing/...-seit.html

The theme "face of Mars" is so called "Out of the Box".


Another interesting test is ask people their opinion about Nikola Tesla; What they say about him is a clue for you at which side they stand.
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#27
[color="#0000ff Wrote:Hissil[/color]]...DMT does not open your mind up for programming....
DMT - I'm fascinated by the stories of those who have taken it.   I've read many accounts of what people have encountered and currently I'm on chapter 14 of True Hallucinations by Terence McKenna. 

Terence's ideas and stories of his trip to the amazon and "other worlds" and dimensions, The Machines, Oversoul, hyperspace, ufos, the elves... have changed my own ideas about this *reality* I live in.
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#28
Ok so what do you think about Tesla? And what are the intentions of the Aldebarens to your knowledge.

Also Rich DMT is found in ayahuasca. I can find no evidence for your claims that this opens the mind up to programming. I do understand why you don't trust channeling. But here's my perspective. Since you don't know what channels are real and which ones are government sattelites, how can you side with only believing that they are ALL sattelites. They may be authentic, and I suggest people be skeptical and analyze what the challeners say isntead of instantly assuming they were just beamed a bunch of lies. Richard, I have doubts about your claims with ayahuasca so please explain why you believe this.

PS Despite the fact nobody has provided me with evidence Icke is a fraud I am not taking a side saying he is or he isn't. But what he has said resonates with what I have discovered so I assume he is most likely telling the truth and people are just so conditioned to being paranoid that they don't trust anyone who is well known and claims to be spreading truth. There are many lies spread from people but not all are intentional or entirely discredit someone.
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#29
Hissil,

I really do not think anyone is saying Icke is a fraud. The word paranoid has 6 billion definitions.

There is a great deal of techniques/methods that open people up to programming that has no evidence, and this is why they work so well.

Ayahuasca is a natural process to go into an altered state, all indigenous people have a method to do so, the aborigines have dreamtime, yet the difference of you taking it compared to a person of indigenous culture is you would be open to astral attachments, because the process is only given to those in the clan who are ready for such a journey, and they are monitored by the shamans and elders of the tribe to safe guard their soul.

I know a group of people, who took ayahuasca, on the advice of David Icke, but he did not actually tell these people to have it! after reading about it and what it does, they wanted to reach a higher part of themselves, well I can tell you that the situation did not end with them being enlightened! They were heavily attacked in the astral and one of them is still not the same and it has been awhile.
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#30
[color="#0000ff Wrote:Hissil[/color]]...Ok so what do you think about Tesla? And what are the intentions of the Aldebarens to your knowledge...
hehe...funny.  icon_biggrin
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