David Icke

[PurplePebble]

And there you have it!!

He and the likes of Dan Brown etc. who attract "enormous numbers of people" ,usually within certain demographics, are set ups by the very ones they are exposing.



Mercy Now, have you proof to back up your allegations? I am very interested in your research.



His celebrity for one.Think about it .

Ahhh, good point, Mercy Now. I appears you are right on the money as folks sharing the truth stay around as long as they are small, in other words, as long as they don't have many followers. If they start to get too big an audience, they either become quieted by threats, corrupted by powerful influences, or they're purposely ejected from the planet. No one seems to be allowed celebrity without first signing a "deal with the devil."

Would David Icke still be doing what he is doing if nobody listened to him?

If his talks now, were the way they were 20 years ago with 2 people showing up to listen to him and he if he was still some unknown entity, he would not be doing it.

Some people think that just because a person is well known in the conspiracy/new age arena, that they must be there via some divine plan in these "revealing/revelation" times......

DI info is staged and drip fed to his followers/believers.  He needs a stage to deliver his info after all, and actors love being on stage. 

He would not still be doing what he does if he was plodding along as some unknown after 20 years. 

[Richard]

The Crofts are not exactly angels either.

I know the Crofts aren't angels. My point of the story was to show why stew knocks orgone. When stew hates someone he will knock whatever they believe in to try and discredit them. Like he knocks pot because I use to smoke it. stew has smoked it too in the past but he likes to pretend he never did. Also he knocks the 12 sign zodiac because that's the system Karen believes in. stew is kind of stupid because he goes out on a limb to knock something that's true just because someone he hates believes in it.

[knmar]

Can anyone explain about the Crofts? What you mean when you say they aren't angels? I remember reading their adventures on Ken Adachi's site. They were pretty regular and then suddenly, there were no more postings. Did they have a falling out with Ken? Do their orgone devices really work?

[Mercy Now]

And there you have it!!

He and the likes of Dan Brown etc. who attract "enormous numbers of people" ,usually within certain demographics, are set ups by the very ones they are exposing.



Mercy Now, have you proof to back up your allegations? I am very interested in your research.



His celebrity for one.Think about it .

Ahhh, good point, Mercy Now. It appears you are right on the money as folks sharing the truth stay around as long as they are small, in other words, as long as they don't have many followers. If they start to get too big an audience, they either become quieted by threats, corrupted by powerful influences, or they're purposely ejected from the planet. No one seems to be allowed celebrity without first signing a "deal with the devil."

For clarification purposes ....I don't believe all celebrities have souled out. Many of the top 10 % I would say but not all. That they all have is disinfo and probably jealousy IMO.

 Icke's celebrity is in a field of few. He gained notoriety ,and eventually celebrity, only after 911 as did a few others in his realm.

There were those before him who spoke of the very  things he has revealed  but without the theosophical(and channeling) attachment.

Those folks were either scrubbed from the internet ,threatened or are no longer with us. 
 

[Sovereign]

Can anyone explain about the Crofts? What you mean when you say they aren't angels? I remember reading their adventures on Ken Adachi's site. They were pretty regular and then suddenly, there were no more postings. Did they have a falling out with Ken? Do their orgone devices really work?

Read for your self from Dennis Griffins AKA Sensei a Martial Arts expert who loves making Orgonite its his primary passion in life and he believes in it and is no ones dummy. http://www.warriormatrix.com/about4698.h...ight=croft

You can do a search with the word "croft" and the Author "Sensei" on his site and read for yourself. I been a member since Dec, 2005 and watched the Drama unfold while I was there. Since as a member Dennis has always treated me fairly. Don and Carol are Sort of like the example of Stewart and Janet that people worship no different and find out that they are not god.

Dons website: http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/forum.php you can view the site but they only allow certain members into their cult yes its that bad. I am not a member and probably an enemy agent since I am a member of warrior matrix. They usually attack members they don't like by changing their screen name to Anonymous Coward which was an insult to these people for the purpose of making them leave their site.

Ken Adachi also does not post their stuff anymore do to issues of Don Croft lying to people as explained on warrior matrix. He even told people from his deep convictions after supposedly gifting the Montauk area that he was one of the Montauk boys sound familar.

[Mercy Now]

For clarification purposes ....I don't believe all celebrities have souled out. Many of the top 10 % I would say but not all. That they all have is disinfo and probably jealousy IMO.

 

 

Andrea made an excellent point and post along this line .I'll have to find it and post it here.  

[Astrojewels]

 Do their orgone devices really work?

I can tell you from my experiences, that it works 100% without a doubt,  but also what people do not understand is the frequency that each piece holds is similar to a crystal, therefore programming it to a purpose does create it to be more powerful.

I also wanted to add to the point of ‘making your own reality’ yes this is true, yet unless you live on an island somewhere in the middle of the pacific, your reality must be a ‘collective energetic frequency’ so your reality is created with the people you share your life with down to the news that you allow yourself to listen to every night, this is why the illuminati bombard you with headlines, because it gets into your head and becomes your truth!

There are many reasons why honest people attract dishonesty and it’s not always because they are mirrored attributes.

[Mercy Now]

 Do their orgone devices really work?

I can tell you from my experiences, that it works 100% without a doubt,  but also what people do not understand is the frequency that each piece holds is similar to a crystal, therefore programming it to a purpose does create it to be more powerful.

I also wanted to add to the point of ‘making your own reality’ yes this is true, yet unless you live on an island somewhere in the middle of the pacific, your reality must be a ‘collective energetic frequency’ so your reality is created with the people you share your life with down to the news that you allow yourself to listen to every night, this is why the illuminati bombard you with headlines, because it gets into your head and becomes your truth!

There are many reasons why honest people attract dishonesty and it’s not always because they are mirrored attributes.

knmar,

  Somehow I missed your question about orgonite devices.

I agree with AstroJewels 100% on this.It's also IMO important to know who made the orgonite as their energy influences  it.   

I agree with Sovereign too in that orgonite can become a crutch in some cases. That's depending on what you are using it for.

        

[knmar]

I agree with AstroJewels 100% on this.It's also IMO important to know who made the orgonite as their energy influences it.

Mercy Now, do you have a recommendation of where to buy it? I know that Rebecca Jernigan "sells" them (she asks for a unquantified donation) and so does Ken Adachi (not sure I totally trust his assessments of things).

Thanks!

[Richard]

Orgone Crystals is a good place to buy orgone.

http://www.orgonecrystals.com/