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David Icke
I concur.
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iq wrote: "Not a single "positive result" technique would work for members here. Visualization techniques fail when the emotions are jarred and the preconceived belief is negative. Swerdlows have raped the consciousness of the members here."

I don't know about other members, but understand this from me: they don't work because I came to my senses and realized that my OWN MIND and CONSCIOUS INTENT can produce whatever results I'm looking to achieve because there is no way whatsoever that AnyOne can prove they work. It's subjective.

Your own statement above that "techniques fail as the result of preconceived belief..." says the same thing...K ?
It's pretty simple.

The issue was not ONLY my naivette but the manner in which J & S treat their clientelle......... PERIOD!
End of subject, over n out.

And in the case and question of banning... iq asked and I simply responded because there is a pattern going on and iq is the only one that can't see it in himself. He gets his answer and I predict that this person comes back w/the cry of "disrespect" when it's simply an observation, one that was requested, one that is held by most of the usual posters along with myself and I've only been here a short time but have read quite a few of iq's posts. It does get tiresome. There comes a time when one would benefit from repetitive criticism and I don't think that will happen. If that was me, I'd leave on my own accord or take a long look at myself and make adjustments.
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Thank you for your input and insight, Sifter. However, I think it's clear from iq's behavior around the internet he is quite conscious of what he is and what he does to consistently disrupt threads that do not tow his line.

Regardless, others see it. And have been watching.

I see he visited again, and without comment. So I will thank him for leaving.
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Actually I'm Sure you are correct...
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Evidently :?
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Thank you for keeping an open mind and examining everything with critical thought. Open, rational discussion is the desire of every forum. I hope it will again be here and continue to grow.
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More weirdness.
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What connection is there between DI belief in a "lion race" And SS belief that he is a "lion man" ( little lion man) himself?

Lion frequency?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=170262


Lion people with violet eyes? like a lion symbol with violet eyes.

Busted.


Again.


http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/draconians.htm

Fron the above site.




Another planet in orbit around Sirius A is a world called Kilroti. Here, the Sirians created high-intelligence cat-like beings. These cat-like beings are called the Lion People. In the 1970s and 1980s, the government created a cartoon for children that described these beings.

In the high astral levels, there is an etheric race of Lion Beings who are gold, have wings, and violet eyes. The name of the race is Ari. Ari is also the old Hebrew word for lion. Their frequency is more powerful than the dolphin frequency. The Ari created the Ohalu Council that governs the Sirius A star system.


Bollox.
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[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:
Quote:David Icke is as much of a cultist as his pal Stew.

No true spiritual man, calls his fellow brothers and sisters sheeple.

 

PP,

I understand your story and opinion regarding DI and even that incident with Sebastian guy. And I think your information regarding DI is valuable one.

But I have honest questions PP.

1.    What's the deal with DI calling the un-woken population as sheeple who supposedly does everything the authority deceive them to do without any questions. This is clearly not to talk down on his fellow human beings but really pointing out that his fellow people have to wake up resisting these evil governments and its associations and why this bothers you? Why?

2.    What is your fundamental proof that Stewart is DI’s personal friend? And that DI know exactly what Stewart’s really doing to his clients? What is your proof of that?

 
" It is your own ego that is feeding the expansions secret government project. "
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yukesam Wrote:[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:
Quote:David Icke is as much of a cultist as his pal Stew.

No true spiritual man, calls his fellow brothers and sisters sheeple.

 

PP,

I understand your story and opinion regarding DI and even that incident with Sebastian guy. And I think your information regarding DI is valuable one.

But I have honest questions PP.

1.    What's the deal with DI calling the un-woken population as sheeple who supposedly does everything the authority deceive them to do without any questions. This is clearly not to talk down on his fellow human beings but really pointing out that his fellow people have to wake up resisting these evil governments and its associations and why this bothers you? Why?

2.    What is your fundamental proof that Stewart is DI’s personal friend? And that DI know exactly what Stewart’s really doing to his clients? What is your proof of that?

 


Here is my whole take on the whole sheeple thing.

David Icke is aware of the programming, mind control that exists and the institutions that exist that  keep people asleep or unwakened -

Does he take into account for instance, the age of a soul, or the lessons or whatever these "unawakened" people as he puts it might have to learn?

Knowing as much as he does about the system, why refer to those who may not be on the same path that he is as unawakened sheeple. Do you not see the arrogance in that? I think it is an arrogant term that lacks compassion,insight and  understanding.

Sure, he can use his own "awakening" or whatever as a personal example, but calling those who may not be as awakened as lets say himself as sheeple. is  not something a so called spiritual leader needs to be doing. 

Does he think that he will get these "unawakened" people to listen to him and take it kindly by referring to them as sheep?

And of course, if you end up reading one of his books, you are no longer a sheep, you are "awakened"....this somehow fools his readers into thinking they are now in the position to consider their fellow brothers and sisters sheep.  I have seen that time and time again on his forum.

What do you think about that term?

When I had my consult Stewart told me about his friendship with Icke, that either Icke or his wife ran crying to Stewart during their divorce,   Whether it was an ego thing or not (I am sure that played a part in his story) but he had no reason to try and impress me with stories about his friendship with DI.  I could not care less.

After that sh*tty consult, I thought about it, and thought, why would DI have a friendship or whatever with Stewart, I found it pretty disgusting that this somewhat well known supposeldy spiritual person was either

1. Not as on the ball about his aquaintances/friend as he would like to think he is (and if he is off on that, what else is he off on)

2. In cahoots with Stewart and the like with all the New Age stuff in order to corner the New Age market...(which also seems to be the case)

3. Or both and Stewart was his handler or something. (not sure about this but it did cross my mind)

 

A member from this forum emailed me, and confirmed that it was DI wife that ended up at the Swerdlows.


With regard to what is being exposed on this forum....if DI is advertising Expansions on his site, I would think that he would want the businesses etc..that he advertises to be legit, as he has a reputation to keep afloat.

Seeing that there are one or two people that frequent this board that have affiliations with DI webmaster etc..

I can put my money on it that he knows about it.  Stewart has made it very well known about what is going on with regard to this expose....you think DI wouldnt get wind of that, even if Stewart didnt tell him?

If you had an aquaintance and or friend lets say, that was thinking about advertising some service, and you had some information about that service that might prove damaging to your friend,  if your friend were to advertise them, would you tell them ?

Of course you would.

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