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Direct Pluto
#1
AJ, Doesn't Pluto go direct in early Sept? Sept.11 ,is that right?  What role do you think it will have if any  on the world  stage as it currently stands?
 Oh and also this past New Moon was in opposition to Pluto . Can you comment on the energetics of this ?
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#2
MN,

I have it going direct on September 12th GMT. Well I actually love the energy of Pluto, it is like the ‘god of karma’ and ever since Capricorn placed itself here, well all I can say is the reaction of the action (karma) has sped up, it is amazing how this energy is transitioning to everyday life so quickly, when it becomes direct I can only think that this will amplify.

We are in a cycle of ‘you can run but you can not hide’. I can say that this was the end of one cycle going into another because of the energy world wide since that new moon.  

What is also interesting is the 12th is a ‘first quarter’ moon, the node changes on July 26th to Capricorn, so the combined energy of this Pluto transition tells me that what has transpired this week is definitely an activation to a new ‘societal program’. As this node is challenged by identity, and the opposite energy to Capricorn is cancer.

So family is unquestionably the target until the transition of the direct energy.

The energy of Capricorn has difficulty with ‘team’ mentality, so the energy will enhance there is no “I’ in team, but that is the distraction, because there is ‘me’ in team.

So world wide, we will have to see the separation of corporations that confuse that ‘I’ and ‘me’ philosophy, banks, political parties and all law enforcement agencies are going to feel this very strongly because of the corruption that is within and the self centered energy that feeds them.

The consequence of such action will need the general public to realize and accept that all team members make the team, and not the star player, it is the combined energy that one must realize, and this includes everyone down to the water boy.

Sorry MN for the long reply, I am raving on, you have got me on a total roll, thanks for pointing this out, you have woken my mind to many things that I did not see, this is the ‘team’ energy I am talking about.
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#3
I love detailed informative replies no matter the length. Isn't Cancer "the past" as well?

 I have a great respect for Pluto and I'm very sensitive to it's energy. One astrologer mentioned I have a yod of Pluto and Neptune with the Moon as it's apex .Perhaps that is my sensitivity to Pluto.
Quote:Well I actually love the energy of Pluto, it is like the ‘god of karma’
Pluto does seem to offer redemption doesn't it?
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#4
AJ,
Quote:Pluto will be in opposition to the USA Venus and Jupiter, 2008-2010 for the first time ever. Venus rules the currency of a country, and with Pluto, its banks and institutions where values are stored
This is what I feel  foretells of the fall of the US dollar especially as Pluto goes direct again in Sept.

Is it fair to say that the Illuminati uses the astrological energies for their machinations?
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#5
Cancer does battle with letting go, it is emotionally sensitive and yes the past is always an issue. Pluto does offer this straight up philosophy and each day I am seeing the consequences of its actions, but am I the only one?

I see that Aquarius Pluto allowed us to ‘truth seek’ which we have done, information is a finger touch away, but now Capricorn asks for doing something about it. Governments are being held responsible for their actions, and so are the big CEO’s, and next should be the pharmaceutical industry and the so called ‘professionals’ that society depends on so greatly, not all doctors are bad, yet they defiantly need a shake up, a pill is not the answer as the list increases with Anna Nicole smith, health ledger and now MJ! And not to forget all the children on medication…
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#6
Mercy Now Wrote:AJ,
Quote:Pluto will be in opposition to the USA Venus and Jupiter, 2008-2010 for the first time ever. Venus rules the currency of a country, and with Pluto, its banks and institutions where values are stored
This is what I feel  foretells of the fall of the US dollar especially as Pluto goes direct again in Sept.

Is it fair to say that the Illuminati uses the astrological energies for their machinations?
interesting MN,

Yes, astrology has been used since the dawn of civilizations, because the illuminati are intelligent enough to know that even with all their manipulation, they can not overcome the universal energy, it is impossible; however they do know that we just need a nudge to take the bait, that is why they are one step ahead.

The future can not be predicated 100%, but the energy of the future can be utilized to ones advantage, because the cycles of the planets are predictable.

The US is in trouble, the global crisis started there, therefore the consequences will be huge, there is a great deal of deceit in your country, and its not just the government.

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#7
It's true that the US is headed for a period of deep conflict.
Quote:In the USA chart, progressed Mars is in the peace-loving sign of Libra, about to go retrograde, July 10, 2008 through November 5, 2086. Mars rules military and war, and as it goes retrograde for the next 78 years, it suggests that there will be a strong movement in the USA away from military activity and offensives
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#8
You will have to explain that to me MN, how does the mars retrograde for 78 yrs?
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#9
AJ, The 78 years is based on a progressed chart (predictive) of the USA. In progressed charts(predictive) the planets move much slower . Mars moves about only a half degree  a year in a progressed chart I believe. I'll  have to double check that however.

For those not familiar with progressed charts I offer this from Mountain Astrologer.com...

http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standa...ers/9.html


Secondary progressions represent a symbolic movement of the planets and cusps of the birth chart. This progressed motion is based on the idea that naturally occurring cycles (e.g., days, weeks, months, years) can be compared proportionally. In secondary progressions, each day after (or before) birth corresponds to one year in the life. For example, if someone were born on October 5, 1960, then their progressed chart at age 19 would correspond to a chart cast for 19 days after birth, that is, for October 24, 1960.
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#10
Interesting MN, thanks for the lesson.

I see it almost daily now, some CEO going to jail, being forced to take responsibility for their greed, and the millions of citizens that have lost so much, it really is becoming a bit of a trend with people of society status going into court, I totally see this as the result of Pluto, and it will continue, but I would like to see the wives of these men be held responsible too, because they often are the ones who push these men for more and more.

I am a little surprised at times at just how things have changed and truth is becoming more evenly balanced.
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