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***Michael*** · 06-12-2012, 05:18 PM

The Constitutional Republic has been given up on long ago, tons of laws and executive orders go against it. People that run for important office are all preselected by elite groups like the CFR. People have given up many of their rights in the name of the war on terror, have let the companies, banks and elite interests take over the media and most everything...and they don't seem to know or care much about it all! People think their vote still matters or are too busy playing their x-box, watching porn, tv programming, youtube, seduced by smartphones, giving up all their personal information on facebook, letting google spy and track their online activity for marketing and other purposes, the list goes on and on...

If people are so dumb that they are not able to see what is really going with US (and the rest of the world similarly for that matter), do they really deserve to be free any longer?

I don't particularly welcome our new overlords but I'm not going to stand in between them and the rest of the idiot population. I say if the people allow themselves to be subverted into slavery then they don't deserve freedom. And I'll make do what best I can to insulate myself away from the rest of the fools and preserve what freedom I can for myself.

***Elizabeth*** · (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012, 09:02 PM by Elizabeth.)

I understand the frustration, but looking at this problem with compassionate eyes leads me to think of the young people born into the HARD CORE virtual technology age without having lived their formative years in 3D. It reminds me that they've been subjected to a battery of vaccinations that we never heard of by the time they're two. Our food, airwaves, water have been poisoned. Our TV and computers are emitting subliminal hypnotic suggestions of the Luciferianism kind. I could go on and on but boy, THERE'S A WAR GOING ON! If humankind was ever to have been left to develop in any kind of natural way--guaranteed, we wouldn't be stupid! We're quite clever and **SPECTACULAR** as a species.

But, if one is lucky enough to have a peek behind the curtain of BullShit ~ AND WHY US? ~ I have no idea...but all that means is that we're SUPPOSED to be the leaders and teachers - thankless, dangerous job that it is. Explaining what is truly happening, to others - at their level - is still crucial.

Maybe it's the mother in me talking - but I DO CARE about the other human beings struggling through their adversities. We need to rise to the occasion! This is the dumbing down and worse that mankind has been up against.

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/astralre...pr12.shtml

***Michael*** · (This post was last modified: 06-12-2012, 10:26 PM by Michael.)

I don't like to see the world the way it is but what are you gonna do? People ultimately have to wake themselves up and the resources are out there for those that are so inclined. You can't force people to wake up and the fact of the matter is most people don't want to wake up or they're too stupid. I think it's only prudent to care for those that want to wake up at this point or have already awakened. It's a waste of energy to get in a fuss about a bunch of people that have their heads in the sand and want to remain in that position. You try and wake one of those people up and they will bite you and spit in your face. I used to care for everyone but that is self-defeating. Now I only choose to care for those that have elevated themselves to a certain level. As bad as it is these people don't have an all encompassing grip, that's just what they want you to believe.

Should people be entitled to freedom? If the answer is yes, how can they value and respect such a thing? I can only hope that this communist/socialist/totalitarian force will one day serve as a great teacher to mankind to value and respect freedom once again.

**Richard** · 06-13-2012, 12:26 AM

When you ask Does America deserve to be free anymore? The first thing that comes to my mind is America has never really been free. People have the illusion they are free because they can make simple choices in their life but they aren't really free. This is a prison planet and no one is free. If most people seen what true freedom was like they would want it but people are programmed not to know any better. You can't blame people for not knowing any better, so I say everyone deserves to free no matter if they're fighting for it or going along with along with all the other sheep.

***Michael*** · (This post was last modified: 06-13-2012, 01:17 AM by Michael.)

(06-13-2012, 12:26 AM)Richard Wrote: When you ask Does America deserve to be free anymore? The first thing that comes to my mind is America has never really been free. People have the illusion they are free because they can make simple choices in their life but they aren't really free. This is a prison planet and no one is free. If most people seen what true freedom was like they would want it but people are programmed not to know any better. You can't blame people for not knowing any better, so I say everyone deserves to free no matter if they're fighting for it or going along with along with all the other sheep.

I think we can all agree it used to be a lot more free than it is today and it will become continually less free in the future the way things are going. I don't buy this is a prison planet like SS talks about, he just wants you enslaved to his BS mind pattern theory. Alex Jones talks about it being a prison planet because he's a shill for the illuminati and wants you to buy into their mentality that you are a hopeless imprisoned slave. The only way we can fix this is for people to become responsible for themselves and wake up and that's not likely to happen on a large scale. If you look back on history freedom is and always has been a luxury. I think in a perfect society of today's people they would start out in some form of a collectivist model and graduate to an individualist form of society when they are ready to move to that level. People can't value, respect or maintain individualism (freedom) without understanding and in most cases experiencing what's wrong with collectivism (slavery). Either that or the species needs to evolve itself up another level or two in intelligence where this stuff can be properly understood by everyone as common sense. That way this madness could be avoided in the first place.

**Richard** · 06-13-2012, 10:35 AM

I agree America use to be more free than it is now but they still had rules they had to live by. Like when America was young everyone was required to go to church. If you didn't go to church the towns folk would come and get you and bring you to church. So right from the beginning they were programming people with religion. Not to long ago businesses were required to close on Sundays. The only stores allowed to open were drug stores. For some reason car dealerships still can't open on Sunday.

***Michael*** · 06-13-2012, 11:41 AM

That's true about the church part.

**William** · 06-13-2012, 01:10 PM

Of course we want Freedom. But we all must understand that we have no Rights to anything. Freedom is not a god given right. Or we all would be Free. There are No god given rights. We as a society create our own rights and some Are above those rights.
Im at the point now that I care not for Humanity, i dont want to be part of Humanity. Our Humanity is just a made up story anyway. Why would you want to run and be part of something that is not working? Humanity is a club anyway. In the USA humanity means one thing. Other countries it has a different definition. True Freedom is 360 degrees from how we are living right now.