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Going through a transition
#21
Richard Wrote:
Trinity Wrote:Richard thank you for your response. You say above "I know a lot of it is". I again ask for your source here or some kind of proof?

This post also seems contradictory to your previous one:

Channeling is dangerous and I would recommend you not trying it. Most people who channel are getting messages from satellites and not from higher beings

I am at a loss at to how most messages are from satellites and are dangerous and yet channeling has a history that precedes satellites? Can I ask how you know it is dangerous? Do you have personal experience?
Trinity, I’m not sure what kind of proof you’re looking for. If you do any research on mind control you’ll discover governments use satellites to program people. They can even beam voices into your head. The best way to judge channeling is by the message. Most channeled messages that I’ve read always promote new age beliefs. That is a clue to the source right there.

Yes, you’re correct the channeling was done before the use of satellites. I never said against that. Like I said Jane Roberts truly channeled Seth.

Here's a couple articles you can read.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbl...ul05.shtml

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

Thank you for the links Richard. From what I read it seems the goal of "new age" messages and discredit the traditional religions. Am I correct? And if so to what aim?

 
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#22
Astrojewels Wrote:There is a dark cloud that covers our earth, but it is so complex that the general population can not fathom the reality of what is going on. If your army has fewer soldiers than the opposing army, you can not win by brutal force, you must win by illusion and manipulation, and therefore the opposing army will surrender only to realize they could have won if they were not fooled.
Religion is the greatest source of mind control, but what about those who can not be fooled into such an illusion we have the ‘new age’ this is targeted at people that are psychic, clairvoyant, environmentally green, etc and those who have abilities that this world can not give proof or explain. Most new age beliefs are no different to religious dogma- heaven and hell. But new age has taken one step further into this philosophy that those with the ‘gift’ can access the other side way before they die, therefore it provides the guru with a god essence, what this does is saves a whole lot of time programming each individual, because the guru only needs to be mind controlled because he/she will program the followers, so you can program 100 people through 1.
There is a definite bridge between both worlds but there are also restrictions to what a spirit is permitted to do in the physical world. Please explain to us trinity why you would channel spirits then we may understand. Guides are so often a manipulation to take away your independent power, it is like the illusion of healers, no one can heal you, they may hold your hand and give direction but at the end of the day only you have the power to heal your own pain, because the pain of one person can not be felt by another in true form.

I am unable to comprehend how "new age" beliefs are no different to religious dogma? To me they are the complete opposite? If channeling is a way to programme people faster then what is the programme? I am at a loss to understand how guides take away your independent power. My experience has always been the opposite.

You say that only you have the power to heal your own pain. I totally agree and I am confused as this IS the message of channeling. Self empowerment is the aim for each person.

You asked why I would channel? The aim for me is to improve myself and see the areas where I have made some mistakes before. To help me find my real vocation in life too. MY life has turned around and I have never felt so happy. I dont use my channeled messages to control, influence or guide others merely to help my life move forward.

If that gives me a "God essence" then I do not see to what aim? I have removed people from my life that caused me pain and abuse and changed my definition of what makes me happy. If that is programming others then I fail to see the result. 
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#23
eagertolearn Wrote:Ok you call it different levels of spirit i was calling it different levels and how i was finetuning myself to higher frequencies.   In this book called Opening to channel and how to connect with your guide by Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer. It says the same.

It says the causal plane is a very high, fine vibratory dimension that you can exist in after this life only when you have harmonised many of your energies and evolved to a high state. Most souls exist in the astral plane when they die, for they are not yet evolved enough to live in the causal plane.  It olso goes on to say that in the causal plane they evolve further by serving humanity.

This totally fits to what you say i used to hear those in the astral plane and still can if i wish although i feel like i have moved up to hearing in the causal plane now.  Thats the best way i can describe it.

Anyway i mostly feel all that is in the aura. I feel whats stuck in it. I feel the energy of the chakras spiraling, how strong they are, if they are weak. I dont actually see auras although i see with my inner eye when i tune into working on the person. Also with my inner eye i see the people if they are hanging around and i feel the energy of that spirit, i know if they are bad or good but i always ask them what their purpose is, if they are lost and that,who they are, if they are a dead relative or guide.  Then i tell the person i'm working on about it and ask them if they want to move them on or are happy to leave them in their company.

I dont see on a regular basis unless i tune it.  Inner eye or see with my mind is the same thing to me.  It's the same as looking into the future or the past, thats why i call it inner eye.

 

 

Yes I have read that book too and was most impressed with it. It was the only book that described to me why I was hearing the astral plane and how those souls were often no better evolved than us.

Then as you say the causal plane is "higher" in vibration than those and provides guides with a chance to help.

It seems we are very similar in what we see/feel from your descriptions.
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#24
Trinity, The aim is to distract you from the truth. The Illuminati knows that not all people will believe in the Christian religion. So they setup traps for those people using new age gurus. So a lot of people seeking the truth end up trading one false belief for another. The goal is to keep you from finding the truth. They don’t care what you believe in as long as it isn’t the truth.
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Richard Wrote:Trinity, The aim is to distract you from the truth. The Illuminati knows that not all people will believe in the Christian religion. So they setup traps for those people using new age gurus. So a lot of people seeking the truth end up trading one false belief for another. The goal is to keep you from finding the truth. They don’t care what you believe in as long as it isn’t the truth.

Distract me from what truth? Can you explain?

What false belief does this offer?
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#26
The new age religion is just like any other religion. They have a god and enlightened beings that claim they’re here to help and enlighten us. The truth is there are no gods or enlightened beings that are going to help us. All religions are designed to get you to surrender your power to a god. They want you to think that you’re powerless. If everyone knew that they themselves have the power to control thier reality, then the Illuminati would be out of business. They would have no control over us.

There is a god but religions have think that it is a man on a throne. God-Mind is consciousness and part of it’s consciousness is in everything. So we’re part of God-Mind.
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#27
Know Thyself~

One of the most profound quotes that Jesus is credited with, was hidden for 2 thousand years for the private agendas of power and control.  It is from the Gospel of Thomas, part of the Gnostic Gospel Library.

I will paraphrase~

The kingdom of God will not be found in houses of stone nor wood.  Turn over a rock and you will find me, split a piece of wood and I am there, look within and you will find the Kingdom.

With current technology and the agendas of the powers to be, it is complex to know what is being recieved.  always question the force behind the thought.  As thought IS the first step of Creation.

I have been receiving since I was six.  That was 42 years ago now, according to this plane of existance.  I still examine the thought before I move.  I look for the connections, I open to the Field and re-check my connection, I trust my instinst and intuition as it is fine-tuned now.  I allow no one nor no thing to ~Channel~ through me.  I commune with them though Life-Force flow.  I will speak for them after I have examined the intent and the force from which they move ONLY~

RAMTHA and JZ are a prime example.  She was communed with The Ram for many a year now. 

You WILL know the tree by it's Fruit~

Blue~
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#28
Richard Wrote:The new age religion is just like any other religion. They have a god and enlightened beings that claim they’re here to help and enlighten us. The truth is there are no gods or enlightened beings that are going to help us. All religions are designed to get you to surrender your power to a god. They want you to think that you’re powerless. If everyone knew that they themselves have the power to control thier reality, then the Illuminati would be out of business. They would have no control over us.

There is a god but religions have think that it is a man on a throne. God-Mind is consciousness and part of it’s consciousness is in everything. So we’re part of God-Mind.

Richard you've read my other posts about the law of attraction. You know I believe I can create my own reality. I am not sure what message you believe new age brings but for me it has always been one of taking back my own power. Indeed this has happened to me since on this path.

I think maybe yours and my idea of "new age" may differ. I always rejected "God" as a person, enitity or something to be feared. I think of it as a force or a spirit we can choose to work with or not. I follow the exact opposite of "religion" in that we are all parts of a unique force or energy. Some parts have more experience than me and so I ask for guidance in my own life. I don't need to take that advice or follow it, or even ask for it but I choose to as only good things have come my way since.

The illuminati ARE out of business and soon will be obselete as one person at a time wakes up to all the lies and control that have been told to control us. There always have been guides, messengers etc of this "God Mind" trying to let us know we can create our own reality. The difference this time is their messages cannot be twisted as they are spread to fast and too free over the internet. 
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#29
Blue Oracle Wrote:Know Thyself~

One of the most profound quotes that Jesus is credited with, was hidden for 2 thousand years for the private agendas of power and control.  It is from the Gospel of Thomas, part of the Gnostic Gospel Library.

I will paraphrase~

The kingdom of God will not be found in houses of stone nor wood.  Turn over a rock and you will find me, split a piece of wood and I am there, look within and you will find the Kingdom.

With current technology and the agendas of the powers to be, it is complex to know what is being recieved.  always question the force behind the thought.  As thought IS the first step of Creation.

I have been receiving since I was six.  That was 42 years ago now, according to this plane of existance.  I still examine the thought before I move.  I look for the connections, I open to the Field and re-check my connection, I trust my instinst and intuition as it is fine-tuned now.  I allow no one nor no thing to ~Channel~ through me.  I commune with them though Life-Force flow.  I will speak for them after I have examined the intent and the force from which they move ONLY~

RAMTHA and JZ are a prime example.  She was communed with The Ram for many a year now. 

You WILL know the tree by it's Fruit~

Blue~

Yes I agree there must always be evaluation of the source and if we ever stop doing that then we are open to control.

Personally I spent years trying to figure out why I felt lied to and controlled by "Religion" and so wont ever let anyone attempt that again...whether they have a body or not. 
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#30
Thankyou trinity so much. I love reading your posts and everything you write is so close to what i think, although i would find it hard to put it into the words you have.

I'm starting to also think my idea of new age differs to what others do as well. It is nice to know that there are others out there that are similar to me.

All this still leaves me with the question though.

What is the difference between being psychic and channeling? What are things i can do called?
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