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Hi William - I haven't been on this forum for long but I find your posts interesting and truthful. Looking at our mind patterns and admitting what does not work in our highest interest is quite uncomfortable at times and it is very encouraging to see your willingness to overcome these. Everyone here has been thru some traumatic times and appear to be really working on themselves. I find Stewart's work puts a whole new spin on victimisation feelings and "negative" thought patterns for me and although I have only been learning it for a few months I feel really different about many things in my life (both past and present). It has given me insights into why I think the way I do, better than any previous info, so keep going, because as Richard said: we are all friends here.
Maybe all the Hyperspace people round the world can stick together and take over- joking of course!
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Richard, Thanks for the reply. Yes im being truthful about it being my mind pattern. Its a hurtle for me to get around. Its one of my major problems in life. Its a self worth issue. I have been used by that mind pattern and not used for the good. I think some of us here have talked about how we dont fit in anywhere here on earth. I feel that way and it shadows everything i do or say or act. I must be in a place where im desperate enough to shout out my mind pattern in a way to show myself and others what im going thru. I am tired of it but i have struggled with it all my life. We all have boogeymen creeping around our personalities. In my opinion i think that just doing deprogramming even half hartedly is beneficial but it also brings up many things that we then have to deal with. Mind pattern or personality trait is a hard thing to change. Is it all about discipline?
Moonchild, Is it discipline or force of will that has helped you the most or deprogramming?
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William,
Dude, we all love you and we all want to help you and each other out!!! So hang in there!! I'm just starting with the deprogramming--I read about whats in our matrix and its friggin scary...its so complicated..I keep thinking"wow I let them do that to me??"..even the fact that I have implants is freaky...
I want to deprogram....and I want to be supported in my deprogramming process..also I want to help others and help support them in their work as well...
i think its discipline...
good luck
will write more later..have to go now..got a class
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Is it discipline or force of will that has helped you the most or deprogramming?
My 2 cents: I haven't found it to be either exactly - it is more the deep desire to be whole and self-governing, not controlled by others for their agenda. When I look at my life and it seems impossible, I think of what I could go back to, and what I could be programmed to do, and that motivates me to keep going. I just won't give up - I have such a desire to be more than a slave for the Illuminati.
Also, being consciously connected to my Oversoul and God-Mind, and using Lion frequency makes me aware of the difference between a programmed life, and one of co-creation and Self-actualisation.
I do not want to be programmed, so I have to do deprogramming - there is no other way about it. I am inspired by this process because of what I learn about myself and true reality - it has taken me into knowledge I never dreamed was available.
'Discipline' and 'force of will' actually sound like programming-based self-punishment and sabotage. That kind of military self-dictation makes things much harder - and also easier to give up to the 'easy life' of programming, where you can hand over the discipline to a handler.
You just have to want to work on yourself, and find out who you really are. I recall Stewart saying that people who enjoy their programming have weak and easily controllable personalities. The key is to find your inenr strength and drive. To be truly passionte about being repsonsible for your own life - even though it can be hard, confusing, and overwhelming at times.
When we can look after ourselves, there are actually more doors of deeper experience that are open to us.
Well - that was a long 2 cents!
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Monica, Thanks so much for that post. Your 2 cents are Gold coins. :)
My problem is fear and getting over it. The things i want to do in life have been used against me. So im slowly stepping out again. Being betrayed by those that you thought were helping you is a bitter pill to take.
thanks again for the post. Its a post we all should read many times for inspiration.
:)
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William
I've been through that phase for about three years where I was isolated and just staying at home on most weekends. I was basically afraid of this world where I thought everyone was programmed and there weren't many other spiritual people to find or relate to around here. I also thought that I didn't deserve to have much of a social life outside and that I could'nt afford it(well in some cases I had to study but I did actually have time and money at some points to go socialize). I just thought I wasn't worthy which wasn't actually true. I had friends who loved me very much that wanted me to hang out with them. I was just scared for so many reasons to travel. Also, part of it was parental restrictions--my parents didn't want me to drive but take the train..taking the train was expensive and also required that I have one of them drive me to the station. I felt I didn't even deserve that either. At times I was even upset for certain other people for not talking to me..but I shouldn't have felt that way when there were others who were mutually happy to have a good time with,etc. I should have had that"Ahh forget about the ones who have abandoned me, I should be here and now with the ones who haven't abandoned me" attitude. Instead of that, I was angry and feeling vengeful of them..even though I knew that was wrong. I worked on releasing guilt, shame, and most of my anger issues but not all of them. I'm releasing things as I go along now since I realize that different alters/compartment/subpersonalities within me are the ones that feel this way. Still so much to do though..I have to do forgiveness altar and work on abandonment/isolation mind patterns and release all my excess angers and fears...I keep doing the affirmations now.
I figured its going to be a long journey but we shouldn't giv eup..its all about exploration.
and I'm grateful to have Monica posting what she always posts....that was interesting about what she said about people enjoying their programming and being easily controllable personalities. I wonder if that is me also....
a broken will...that needs to endure the opposite...
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HELLO
Moon Child, Welcome and all the best to you.
TS
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Thank You,Truthseeker.
William-the answer would be,force of will.
Monica-will is needed in order to create any change,therefore,I'm afraid I cannot agree with your assessment that force of will sounds like programming based self-punishment and sabotage.There is nothing militaristic about overcoming all obstacles or hurdles.It has to do with mind pattern and sometimes even the frequency of the individual.It's either overcome all obstacles,or totally crack.In my case,I prefer to keep my sanity,fully intact,as I will be needed in this lifetime to help others and prevent their sanity from ripping at the seams.
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Hi MoonChild
I don't mean to fully negate the "Force of Will" - I think it's very important. It depends on whether it is used in conjunction with Oversoul and God-Mind awareness and guidance, or wth a left-brain 'Ego' focus.
You can force things to happen, but I feel that when in alignment with your source, everything flows naturally and easily - with simplicity.
I appreciate your perspective though :)
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