Illuminati Agenda

[Mercy Now]

In adding to my rant I want to say that I feel the major religions of the world ,especially as they are presented to us , are about mind control.The Christ though I feel was a real physical being ,but he won't be the next time. Thus I won't be  buying into the Fake Apocalypse(now) and the Second Coming in the physical.

[Richard]

Alex collier said the biblical Jesus is a composite character. And as such, is an allegorical myth. The Virgin Mary is also a composite character and these composites were made for the purposes of uniting the religions of the ancient Roman Empire so that their resources were not being used to constantly stop religious wars between different factions.

Here's a link to some of his videos.
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=alex+collier&search=Search

[Mistress]

I stopped reading when I saw Michael Ruppert as CIA agent.
The guy has his work vandalized, his staff received death threats and he fell mysteriously ill and seeking treatment in Venezuela fearing for his life.

I believe the real Illuminati is the jewish lobby (no offence to my friends jewish, please dont read it the wrong way). Facts: more than 90% of the media , many banks and a large number of people in the corridors of powers are jewish. Apparently jewish staff were evacuated of world trade centre before 9/11 happened! That I believe are the people working behind the scenes. (again please dont see it as anti semite, i love people of all colors, culture and religion).

[Mercy Now]

Yes,  I am aware of Alex Collier and his views and I don't agree. I believe there was a physical man who attained and held the office of Christ. I don't feel the "Second Coming " is physical it's etheric IMO.

Mistress , I can't say for sure whether Ruppert is CIA or not but whether he is or isn't doesn't make him immune to such calamities as you described. I would suspect ,given the nature of the business , that potentially many CIA are killed,  threatened,humiliated.financially ruined etc.

[Richard]

Here's what Alex said about it DSG.

Basically what happened was that the Catholic church created a composite character, because at the time they were expending a lot of resources putting out religious wars. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but like many things it got perverted. Yeshua Ben Joseph, was a Jewish rabbi who lived from 70BC to 9 BC. He was apparently crucified at some point, charged with being a thief. Prior to that there was a man by the name of rabbi Hallel who apparently died in 100BC. Rabbi Hallel was called "The Great Teacher". Many Christians are led to believe that a man named Jesus was called this, when in fact it was Rabbi Hallel. Now, what happened was that the New Testament composite character of "Jesus The Christ" was created by the Council of Nicea. Most of the words that are attributed to this composite character, referred to colloquially as "Jesus", were in fact spoken by Apollonius of Tyana, who the Bible calls "Paul of Tarsus". Because Rome had their armies scattered all over the place and all these wars were over the subject of religion, what the Council of Nicea decided to do is essentially create a "State Religion". So, what they did was combine the religions of the east and the west, both of which were concerned with Sun worship. Those in the West worshipped Hesos, also called Hess. Those in the East that worshipped the Sun worshipped Krishna, which in Greek is called Kristos. The very first "Bible" that was put together in 325AD. They took some books that Apollonius of Tyana had brought back from Burma, called the Codes of the Initiates (which concerned themselves with man's relationship to the seasons, among other things) containing lessons that were handed down to those particular Holy Men in India during that particular period in history. The Codes of the Initiates allegedly contained words that were spoken by Krishna. The very first "Bible" was called the Helios Biblios, which means "The Sun Book". This is what they did in the very beginning.

[Richard]

Here's more of the interview.


Q: When was the Helios Biblios assembled? 

A: Between 324 and 355 AD, by the Council of Nicea under Emperor Constantine The Great. Then they slowly developed a "God", a personage, to replace the Sun, and slowly changed the books, disposing of the material detailing reincarnation and many of the other teachings. They changed meanings, and every scribe that worked on this thing kept changing things as belief systems were revised with the prevailing times.  

Q: How about things ascribed to the historical "Jesus" such as the Sermon on the Mount? 

A: The exact words ascribed to the historical "Jesus" with reference to the Sermon on the Mount were found in a Turkish museum, authored by a Greek Senator in 64 AD. The Church went out a gathered all the information they could at various times in history, and they suppressed what they didn't agree with or what they didn't want the people to know. 

Q: Then, who was the healer in this whole scenario? 

A: That was Apollonius of Tyana, who the Catholic Church referred to as the "Anti-Christ", despite the fact that he was also known as Paul of Tarsus, mainly because he encouraged rebellion against Roman tyranny. 

Q: And Yeshua Ben Joseph? 

A: From what I understand, he was of the royal line, but he tried to create rebellion against Roman tyranny as well. 

Now, there was also another Yeshua. 

Q: Another Yeshua? 

A: Yes. It was a very common name than in Judea. He was a rabbi who was also a rebel, of sorts. He died at Massada in 64 AD, and his presence at Massada was why Massada was attacked. His name was Yeshua Malathiel. The bottom line is there was no "Jesus Christ" in history at all. It was a composite character, and history reveals this fact. 

Q: Now, Robert Morning Sky revealed that the specific crucifixion that involved a Yeshua was a mock crucifixion, in that the person did not really die, because he was given an herbal mixture to simulate death, and that Bar Abbas was in fact the son of the Yeshua concerned here. 

A: Yes, if you take the name Bar Abbas, which is a two-word name (not Barrabas, as in the Biblical product of the Roman Church), and you go back to the ancient Hebrew, it means "Son of the Teacher" or "Son of the Master".  

Q: So whose son was Bar Abbas? 

A: Yeshua Melethiel. 

Q: His son.  

A: Yes, and from that grew the lineage in France. 

Q: The lineage in France? That is where Alex Christopher's book Pandora's Box picks the trail up. The so-called "bloodline of Christ" that related to the mission of the Templars.  

A: That's right. It related not to Yeshua (Jesus) Malathiel himself, who died at Massada in 64 AD, but to his son, Bar Abbas, who survived and went to France. 

Q: This is also connected with the "blue-bloods" and extraterrestrial genetics? 

A: That's exactly right. 

Q: So Yeshua Malathiel was a "blue-blood"? 

A: Yes, he was, and he was connected to the House of David, and if you go all the way back through the line, through David, and you get to Moses, who was a human-extraterrestrial "half-breed".  

Q: So, was it Yeshua Malathiel who was involved in the "cross scenario"?  

A: I don't know for sure. The only place I have heard of the story that Robert is talking about is from a book called Crucifixion By An Eyewitness (which does not at all imply that Robert got his data from that book, just that the book mentions it) But, the Essenes were herbalists and knew how to mix potions and knew about this kind of thing. Of course, the real secrets about all of this lie in the Dead Sea Scrolls. 

Q: Which the Israeli government have locked up, or at least most of them, and will only let a few select people see a few of them.  

A: Yes, by the Israeli's and the Roman Church, because what the Dead Sea Scrolls show, according to the Andromedans, are that "Christianity" and "Judaism" were really one thing, one religion, and they also tell the true story of who Yeshua was, as we have spoken about here.  

Q: Yeshua Malathiel? 

A: Right. Rabbi Wise in the 1950's and 1960's did an extensive study of the death warrants and death certificates of those who were crucified during that time period, as the Romans kept records, and the only Yeshua listed as being crucified was a man coincidentally named Yeshua Malathiel, who was listed as a traitor and a thief. Mary of the house of Magdelana was the wife of Yeshua Malathiel. She came from a very well-to-do family who raised doves for sacrifices put on by the Pharisees at the temples. I think the book Holy Grail talks a little about that, too. The Jewish tradition was at that time that any man 13 years of age, who was a rabbi, must take a wife and have children. That was the law. 

Q: How did the crucifixion scenario arise with Yeshua Malathiel and his son, Bar Abbas? 

A: Well, the story behind that is that they took Bar Abbas because they knew that the father, Yeshua, would come after his son. The story goes on to say that a ransom was paid, and they did a "mock" crucifixion in order to hide the fact of a payoff to the Romans. Malathiel did not leave the area. He continued to do what he did and died at Massada. There is apparently a scroll which is in the possession of the Russians that proves this, and the son, Bar Abbas, was escorted to France with the rest of the family. 

Q: So, presuming that somewhere along the line Christians or Jews would read this material, what would you say to them if they feel concerned by it?  

A: Well, all I would say is that true history does not support the idea or the proof that a "Jesus Christ" lived. It does prove that Apollonius of Tyana was real, and the other thing I would say is, "you've been duped". There is no middle man between you and the Creator, and your relationship is directly with the Creator. 

Q: Of course, this is why Gnosticism has been so suppressed throughout history. 

A: Yes. These "churches" exist only because people "believe in them" and support them financially. If you take that away and say, "my relationship is with the Creator, I don't need a middle man", then "there is no need for you." Let's face it, the church is politics and a form of government. The Andromedans share very much the same viewpoint as some of the Pleaidian groups - that all religions on our planet are forms of government, and they don't see any difference between government and politics (power-brokering), in their perspective. I mean, people used to have to pay priests in order to "assure their place in heaven".  

Q: Are there any religious systems on this planet that are at all beneficial? 

A: There are two religious systems they say have been beneficial, and they were the original form of Buddhism and the original form of Shinto. All the other stuff is designed to hold you back and control you. That is their perception.