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Moscow calls for anti-US alliance
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Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
October 10, 2008

THE President of Russia has called on Europe's leaders to create a new world order that would minimise the role of the United States.

Confident that a row with Europe prompted by Russia's invasion of Georgia in August was over, Dmitry Medvedev arrived in the French spa town of Evian on Wednesday determined to woo his fellow leaders into creating an anti-US front.

Gone was the kind of wartime rhetoric that saw Mr Medvedev lash out at the West and describe his Georgian counterpart, Mikheil Saakashvili, as a "lunatic". Instead Mr Medvedev spoke of a Russia that was "absolutely not interested in confrontation", and outlined plans for a new security pact to ban the use of force in Europe.

Yet there was little doubt that Mr Medvedev was playing the divide-and-rule tactics of Vladimir Putin, his predecessor and now Prime Minister, by seeking to pit the US against its European allies.

In a speech delivered to European leaders at a conference hosted by the French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, to discuss the international financial crisis, Mr Medvedev sought to show that the US was at the root of all the world's problems. He blamed Washington's "economic egotism" for the world's financial woes and then accused the Bush Administration of taking Europe to the brink of a new cold war by pursuing a deliberately divisive foreign policy.

He also maintained that the US was once again trying to return to a policy of containing Russia.

"After toppling the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, the United States started a series of unilateral actions," Mr Medvedev said.

"As a result, a trend appeared in international relations towards creating dividing lines. This was in fact the revival of a policy popular in the past and known as containment."

While he called for a cooling of the noxious rhetoric that had blighted East-West relations over the past two years, Mr Medvedev clearly laid the blame for the deterioration on the US, which he said was again viewing Russia through the prism of the Cold War. "Sovietology, like paranoia, is a very dangerous disease, and it is a pity that part of the US Administration still suffers from it," he said.

In order to end the "unipolar" model in which the world depended on the US, he proposed creating new financial systems to challenge the dominance of the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organisation, both of which had fallen under Washington's spell.

Attacking the enlargement of NATO, which he said had advanced provocatively towards Russia, he proposed a new European security treaty.

The new European pact would include "a clear affirmation of the inadmissibility of the use of force - or the threat of force - in international relations" and would be built on the principle of the territorial integrity of independent nations.

While Russia has insisted it was not intending to supplant NATO, Mr Medvedev made it clear that the US-dominated alliance was partly responsible for the war in the Caucasus by its failure to rein in Georgian "aggression".

The Russian President won praise from Mr Sarkozy after he announced that all Russian troops had been withdrawn from buffer zones around Georgia's rebel enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia before today's deadline.

Describing his guest as a man who had "kept his word", Mr Sarkozy immediately declared that talks on an EU-Russia partnership deal, suspended as punishment for Russia's military operation in Georgia, could resume.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/moscow-...42063.html
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#2
Classic... a newer new world order

lolol
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#3
This newer new world order goes along with prophecy from Cayce and the bible. They say the US will become a 3rd world country and Russia will rule the world. The prophecy says the world will be better off with Russia ruling than the US. Russia is supposed to bring peace to the world.
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#4
I've noticed that many people on the Net have been looking at Russia with new eyes, wondering how that country might effect the world in a different way.  I think it was early 2005 when I began to take more notice of Russia; not because anyone said to but because of what I began noticing at the time.  It all started when I watched Putin on 60 Minutes. 

We shall see what comes.  I doubt it will be boring.
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#5
Hmmm....Sarkozy heaped praise on Russia. This from the same man who in September  and again just recently called for a "New World Order."Something stinks!
That's part of the agenda...to make the NWO seem all cozy and good and the only answer.
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Sarkozy calls for UN-led "new world order"
 
New York (dpa) - The United Nations should avail itself as an instrument for a "new world order of the 21st century," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Tuesday in his first address to the General Assembly.
 Sarkozy, who won the presidency this year on a strong reform platform to modernize France, urged the world body to embark on programmes ranging from equal wealth distribution to fighting corruption in his speech full of references to France's past revolutionary ideals.

"In the name of France, I call upon all states to join ranks in order to found the new world order of the 21st century on the notion that the common goods that belong to all of humankind must be the common responsibility for us all," he told the General Assembly.

The UN should ensure access for all human beings to vital resources, such as water, energy, food, medication and knowledge, he said. He called for "more morality" in "financial capitalism" and a fairer distribution of profits, earnings in commodities, raw materials and new technologies.

"There must be a change of mindset and behaviour," Sarkozy said in a long list of demands to the international community.

Known for his admiration of the United States and its culture, Sarkozy said France will remain loyal to its friends and the values it shares with them.

But he warned that loyalty should not be equated with submission, a reference to Paris' disagreement with the US-led war in Iraq.

"What I want to say to the world is that France, faithful to its friends, stands ready to talk to all people, on every continent," he said.



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Here is some more prophecy from another thread. http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum28/5271.html

Date Posted: Thursday 25-Sep-2008

[Putin is a clever man. I am always wary of him. Here are some prophecies from Russia. I tend to take prophecies these days with more of a pinch of salt because all prophecies are only accurate in retrospect, and very few that you know of beforehand actually come true. Jan]

But the lives of people and the fortune of nations are very different stories. While the fortune of a person is his or her own affair, those of countries, and of the world, are the problems of mankind. Philosophers, astrologers, and fortune-tellers have been giveing advice on these matters through the ages. Yes, people may have different attitudes to prophecies, but regardless of one's opinions about them, one thing is for sure: they are fascinating.

One historical figure that has come to be synonymous with prophecies is Nostradamus, whose name happens to be one of the most frequently searched on the Internet. His "Centuries" are said to have prophesied the burning and devastation of Moscow in 1571, Napoleon's defeat in 1812, the victory of communism in Russia and the subsequent collapse of the Soviet Union.

Recently, Russia pulled off a hat trick: hockey, football and Eurovision. The country was ecstatic and there was jubilation in the air. The press was obsessed about it, and still are. Among all the chaos I read the following comment on the Internet: When the Northern Empire wins on Ice and Grass and its Clown sings his song, Red Clouds will cover the Sky and the Apocalypse will come. This grim prophecy was said to have been one of the Bulgarian prophetess Vanga's predictions, and that made me think about Russia's future. Sear­ching for some evidence to substantiate the claim, I found out the passage was a harmless joke. Still, there are lots of prophecies about Russia that make people sit up and pay attention.

Vanga was born at the turn of the 20th century and died 12 years ago at the age of 84. Her gift of prophesy made her popular, and soon politicians visited her to have their fortunes told.

Among her most shocking predictions is what she had predicted in 1980: In August of 1999 or 2000, Kursk will be covered with water and the whole world will be weeping over it. Twenty years later, the nuclear submarine "Kursk" perished in an accident.

In January 1988 she said: We are witnessing events of paramount significance. Two big leaders shake hands. But we have to wait for a long time before the Eighth one will come forth and sign a final peace agreement on Earth. The first part of the prediction made reference to Gorbachev and Reagan, and the second to the fact that Russia joined the Group of Seven, now the G-8.

In the same way, she predicted some other events of world history. In 1989: The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel bird. The wolves will howl in the bush, and innocent blood will flow. It happened as predicted: The "Twin" towers of the World Trade Center in New York collapsed apparently because two commercial planes - "steel birds" - were flown into them. She predicted lots of things - the Chernobyl disaster, Boris Yeltsin's election win and so on. It is even said that Adolf Hitler left a visit with her looking very upset.

One of the popular predictions about Russia is that when the permafrost thaws and the floods come, nothing will survive on Earth but Russia. The climate will change and Russia will occupy the best inhabitable zone. Plus, Russia is predicted to herald in world peace and flourish in the face of good fortune.

Vanga also once said: "Everything melts away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia are the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive, it will dominate the world."

Russia is on a roll with assorted victories. Whether we can believe that Russia will initiate world peace, however, remains to be seen.

By Daria Chernyshova
Source URL: http://www.mnweekly.ru/local/20080606/55332043.html

Posted By: Jan
AfricanCrisis Webmaster
Author of: Government by Deception
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#7
I was listening to a very interesting man on the rerun of C2C last night who talked about Russia a bit.  [Catholic priest, Fr. Nicholas Gruner of the Fatima Center discussed his research into the Third Secret of Fatima.] 

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2008/10/09.html

He matter of factly stated that Russia is going through a conversion process. [This statement aligns with my understanding of Cayce's prophecy.]  He also stated that Russia will make some moves to take over Europe.  And I think he said that after Russia makes these moves, the third secret would be revealed.  Father Gruner has been for releasing the secret long before now.
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#8
Baba Vanga also predicted the world would end in 2003 I believe it was. I'll have to find that article.

Also ,I question her sources....

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Baba Vanga's eerie powers put her in touch with beings from the planet Vamfim. These beings, elderly bearded sages with mystic and severe expressions and brilliant costumes, further advised the mysterious Vanga! (http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/notes-from-history-baba-vanga/id_13025/catid_3)

Okay I found the article. It's from zetatalk:? in 2001 . They got the info from a 1994 interview of Baba  Vanga reprinted in the Megapolis Express newspaper 6/6/01.According to them this was her last public interview.

Baba Vanga:


Then miracle will come, wonderful times will come. The science will tell, that in the old books the truth and that is not, people will find life in space and will know, whence it has come. The large underground city will dig out. The new people will arrive from the sky and there will be great miracles. But it is necessary to wait, it is impossible to hurry events, it will not be soon.

Soon, in nine years [2003], there will be the end of the world. The Earth will turn away from the Sun. Where was hot, there will be an ice, many animals will die out. The people will fight for energy, but they will have enough soul to stop. And then time will turn back.

The flood will be too, in 30 or 40 years. The large body will fly to the Earth and will hit the water. The waves will wash away a lot of countries, and the sun will dim for three years. The good-hearted people will survive, and malicious people, which consider themselves clever, will perish. Many people will perish. And then will be a very good life, and immortality will come.

Offered by Dmitri
 I'm beginning to think that David Booth ,aka Sorta False :D(Sorcha Faal),is using Vanga's prophecies as material.

 

 

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#9
Well that prophecy was way off!

On a person note, anyone that believes Russia will lead the world, please explain how and why?

I agree that the US is and will loose the top spot, it has already happened, but I don’t really see why we need to have a number one country anyway, the NWO is going to happen, and the only positive step I see is that each country will have the opportunity to become more equal, whereas before it was dominated.

I see it here in OZ, the US has far less influence over us just in the past 4 weeks, and your dollar has dropped almost 40 cents in 12 days.
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[color=#842dce Wrote:Astrojewels[/color]]On a person note, anyone that believes Russia will lead the world, please explain how and why?
Romanovs, Rothschild, and Windsor all want control. Who do you think has the best chance of winning? My money is on Romanovs.
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