05-28-2013, 05:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2013, 05:46 PM by Octahedron.)
I have not time to read this whole thread, I just want to say this.
a critical attitude or an awareness of manipulation risks is something different than having ODD or being skeptical.
I like when people are sometimes more open for willingness to hear and verify a unusual opinion I have that cann't be proven with usual sources, yet. At the other side I do respect resistance against my opinions or against my convictions because it keeps me awake.
On a forum like this I think it is healthy when every member can maintain their own attitude or style, sometimes debunking a lot, sometimes being to naive.
Just everybody try to find some balance here to give everybody room for having overinteresting stories or having overcritical attitudes.
05-28-2013, 08:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2013, 08:43 PM by Mercy Now.)
05-29-2013, 09:00 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-29-2013, 09:21 AM by Octahedron.)
05-29-2013, 03:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-29-2013, 04:19 PM by Filter.)
I think there is nothing wrong per sé with being overly critical and debunking a lot. Leaving here in the middle whether the debunking critics are valid or not.
However, when such a so-called debunker finds its own debunking ego so much more important than the mood and well-being of another, like for example a discussion partner or another forum member, I pull myself out. When a debunker doesn't want to or isn't capable of imagining him/herself in the views and/or circumstances of the other, I pull myself out as well.
Here we are also entering the terrain of social abilities, also mentioned by Thomas Sheridan in his article. People have feelings and emotions, find themselves in a certain position, and I think one should take that also into account when you are out debunking, like debunking the topics of interest of other members.
Unfortunately my impression is that there are quite a lot of self-centered ego's and know-it-alls in this world, and that usually doesn't go away when they enter the virtual world of the internet, often quite the contrary.
In any case, I personally draw the line at personal attacks. I wouldn't want to be on a forum where members are being accused of being spies, infiltrators or something similar with no solid evidence whatsoever. I have seen such paranoia and nasty behaviour on conspiracy related forums more than once.
I don't like cyber bullying either, which is unfortunately a phenomenon that is quite wide spread as well. I understand it is safe and comfortable from behind a computerscreen, which also makes people's boundaries and inhibitions more easily to blur or even to disappear entirely.
I have seen things go down in forums that would make people's jaws drop and also things which I found to be quite upsetting.
Nothing wrong with debunking in itself at all - it is absolutely necessary, but avoid becoming too sure and rigid, be subtle and be respectful to the other, is my motto.
Filter I disagree that you should take a member personal attachment to a theory into acount, as long as it's not a direct personal attack. Things do get emotional, but that's a plus to forum conversations. Everybody is emotionally invested in their beliefs, even if they are delusional. That's why according to social etiquette, religion and politics are not discussed, but this board would be dead if we didn't slaughter everybody's sacred cows.