Pack mentality

[Astrojewels]

interesting.

[Zodd42]

Astrojewels[/color]]I agree zodd42 with what you are saying, however I believe it is more than the psychological alpha male leading the submissive, I grew up in a neighborhood where street violence was an everyday occurrence, and it is not always one leading the pack, it is often a pack decision to do something. These youths chose a victim of weakness, even most dogs stop fighting when the other dog pleads mercy, excluding pit bulls of course!

So would you consider these boys to be ‘alpha males’ considering they beat up on someone that could not fight back or even defend themselves against the attack, and there is a great difference to fighting someone of equal power to fighting someone you know can not defend themselves, I think this is two different mind pattern energies all together, what do you think?  

I think you might be right.

I agree that there is a lot of psychological conditioning of males (especially in low income areas) to behave in this way.  Sort of a "mercy is weakness" mentality that results in incomprehensible cruelty.  There definitely is a mind pattern behind predetory violence.  The group setting probably amplifies it.  These boys had some severe power issues, maybe from their own severe beatings. (some gangs do this as an initiation)  This would fit the 'abused becomes the abuser' scenario.

Kids in gang environments are taught to conform to the group; to be tough, callous, self-serving, abusive, aggressive, hateful, small-minded, greedy, and vengeful.  They must never cry, or show any emotion other than anger.  The more guns/money/women you have, the more people you beat up/rob/kill; the better person you are, and the more respect you deserve.

It doesn't sound like this group of youths was a gang, so I think you are right about the group acting as a whole and not merely following one person.  I feel they probably still had an 'alpha' figure of some kind.  Perhaps they would have stopped if this person had intervened.  I think they didn't stop because they didn't want to appear weak to each other.  This, as you've said, probably comes from an entirely different mind pattern, though I cannot fathom the what it is or why they would do this.  Maybe programming or conditioning had something to do with it?

[Astrojewels]

Zodd42,

Yes it is true that males in these suburbs are expected to portray a ruthless personality, as I have seen it first hand, and there is only a small percentage of the ‘group or gang’ that are actually naturally violent, the rest do just follow from fear and also being bullied and ridiculed. If a gang was made up of equal members, there would be no gang; this is all sociological and psychological behavior.

If you think about group situations, like a protest, a football game, any situation that is established with a group of people, if/when that situation begins to become volatile, the crowd joins in, and this is why I do believe humans have pack mentality, the rest of the group just join in without hesitation, it is like a wave of energy and so is this herd/sheep mentality or pack?

Yes,  you are right in saying if this group of youths had been intervened they would have stopped and most likely ran away, even if it was a single adult male against the whole group because they are weak and pick their mark! It is a mind pattern of domination, like a man who beats on a woman, same same…

[ctdimmock]

Two words: cellphone towers.
Everyones made great points, but I was getting confused just reading these posts - no offense :-)
I went away - then it hit me. Its the Electromagnetic interference. Period. Humans dont have a pack mentality, they just have an infinite ability to be ignorant (not ONE of the general populace questions what these huge towers are, why they get headaches whenever they use their phone and/or why everyone seems to getting cancer nowadays or are just constantly ill as these things get more prevalent).
Theyre not aware that its something ELSE imposing a feeling/thought onto them, so they treat it as theyre own and simplyact it out.
You dont even have to be specifically programmed to do these sorts of crimes as instead of being triggered, you just get imposed and backed into doing it by a overriding of your processses by this technology.
I dont know the exact formulas, but its simple, you beam sexual anger thoughts onto the abusers combined with feelings of depresion or whatever and watch em go.
I honestly feel as tho if they quit all their exposure to technology, things would improve ~(they wouldnt even have to UNDERSTAND WHY theyre doing it - just by doing it) theyd be more in control - a human being does not naturally want to act like an animal, hurt others nor be a part of crippling hierachies or this alpha male BS (theres a difference between 'leader' and 'alpha').
Last point, say it WAS programming or some long drawn out system for 'staying on top' - its the bombardment that keeps ppl in the reptilian state of simply surviving no matter what - again, most humans would simply use logic and realise that its not useful to harm others or maintain these charades, but they cant do that as theyre constantly kept from it by EMF bombardment.

So to summarise: cellphone towers, cellphones, tv's etc - just get rid of them anyway u can - your consciousness as a human will do the rest.

If anyones interested, a good place to start:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eS7YIZ1x0r8

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1jrTesAS...re=related

"Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards." ~Aldous Huxley
---Good quote, why should a human act like an animal? Isnt a human higher on the evolutionary scale? Why would a human be going BACKWARDS into animalism? ...answer: technology - like forcing an inflated ball under water - you have to constantly be forcing it down while its true nature is to rise above.

...I went off on one there. I feel strongly about this. I hope I made my point succinctly.

[Mercy Now]

Yes, cellphone towers aka Death Towers . This why we in the orgon-ite community gift the towers with tb's. I also like to carry one of DB's Special Creations with me at all times. 

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/whatarede...ar05.shtml

http://www.whale.to/a/electrical_h.html


 

[Astrojewels]

Nicely written Chris, and I totally agree with all that you say, the towers have made life much more difficult, however violence and pack violence has been occurring way before the telephone/technology became part of everyday life.

Imagine MN if we had a global ‘gift’ day, in theory what do you think would happen?,  I know the orgone works and it makes a real difference.

[Mercy Now]

Karen,

I know someone who came up with an excellent idea. He makes special  little orgon-ite  thingys and leaves them in public places where people are bound to find them. Park benches, water fountains etc. On the bottom of the thingy he has included this message 

"You have just been gifted."He also puts a web address where they can send a response.

He has had great results.:)

[ctdimmock]

Orgone doesnt seem to work for me?!! I bought 2 of don crofts pendant things that I wore constantly, plus a few orgone pyramid looking things - to no avail. It might have improved the 'positive energy' but I still never got a good nights rest nor had the ringing stop in my ears... I got rid of them - how do they work for you?

Karen, yea, I overlooked those times when EMF didnt exist (which wouldve been WAY before my birth even) - thats got me thinking.

... But hasn't technology always existed? ie from Atlantis geothermic weapons, to the flying vhimanas, to industrialial pollution in the middle ages to now?

If the environment in which they live were at rest with no threat from technology, I just dont see how ppl could be violent, even if there was a lack of basic necessities, peacful logic would prevail over needless violence. Even creating life like dinosaurs wouldve required technology which wouldve put natives in an agitated state. I think its same song, different verse- instead of whatever technology they had back then, we have cellphone towers now.

Oh, and back to the 'gifting' thing - theres a great concept called 'Paying it Forward' that everyone can do with great results.

[Astrojewels]

Good on him MN, what a great idea.

 

Chris,

I have not tried the pendants, and not sure why it has not worked, can’t say it works 100% of the time, still get some stuff in occasionally, but it is the overall difference that it makes, we have the big bangers everywhere, and did some gifting in a large area, and it worked. Technology has always existed but I don’t believe it has ever existed in such a way for comfort as it is today (television, stereo etc).

Maybe you are right with the technology theory, but I do believe that our reptilian brain stem feeds the violent part of each of us, put us in the right environment and we are all capable of doing things that are not in our regular personality.

tell us more about the 'paying it forward'.

[Mercy Now]

Chris,

Orgon-ite works on everyone whether they are aware of it or not. Does vibration and/ or frequency affect the blind or deaf?

I will say this orgon-ite will conflict with programming. Also hyperspace techniques as known by SS followers conflict with orgon-ite. I am of the opinion that such techniques keep you programmed. This my experience and my opinion. I know I'll draw alot of flack for expressing it but there it is and I stand by it.

The ringing in the ears is a lengthy topic that perhaps we can touch on in this post very briefly. I do have the Carol Croft pendant (this is Carol's baby ..not Don's) and can say that the pendant is more for personal clearing type attributes. It will have an influence on outside interferences by the way in which you respond to them.

You note that it does cause a positive energy. Even if this is all that it does it is enough to allow the space,if you will , to address whatever from a clearer position than before. The rest is your choice . A choice you may not have had before .

Gifting the towers does work.... period.  The cell towers alone could be causing the ringing in your ears.  I have the ringing myself and have noticed a big difference in traveling to areas where I know the towers aren't gifted . I highly recommend overgifting.

I also highly recommend an orgon-ite CB.  Most highly recommended is DB's Special Creation. cannot say enough about this little gem.:)

Addressing the ringing in the ears again..... I've placed an orgon-ite HHG on the electrical power supply line to the house and it's helped . I've placed orgon-ite on my pc and it helps. On the TV on the radios etc. You get the picture.One very noticable difference was made when I simply stopped using cordless phones. I've gridded my property with orgon-ite and it helps.   I still have some ringing but not to the degree it was before.There are also physiological causes  behind ear ringing that could be explored.

 I.