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[SilverInfinity]

Hey everyone,

I feel guilty about expressing my thoughts like when I posted I'm interested in a frat of some sort like freemasons, and other things. So I'll stop posting anything that is pro or anti-Illuminati.

[Richard]

No problem. ;)

[Astrojewels]

SI,

Are you merely expressing your thoughts? I thought you were knowledgeable with the agenda, I am wrong? If you explain then I may understand.

[SilverInfinity]

I was expressing my thoughts. I don't believe in their agenda. There are a lot of intelligent people out there. I don't see how the Illuminati can operate.

[Astrojewels]

Yes there are many intelligent people out there, ok if you don’t believe the illuminati can operate, how do you explain our corrupt existence, from the governments, to the judges, lawyers, law enforcers, churches, teachers, corporations, banks and finance sectors, the medical association down to those who commit atrocious crimes against children, the poverty of the world, how can some of us throw food away while others eat rubbish, how did we become so imbalanced, and if there was a god, why would ‘he’, and I say he as this is the gender give to the all mighty, if god has true power over us why are we in such a state? Why would god allow us to cut down trees to build concrete cities? Pollute our oceans, kill our whales all these things that bother me why do we have to experience it if ‘something’ can stop it?  

[SilverInfinity]

You're thinking too big. Humans make mistakes. Beuraracies are never perfect. From thep rise of communism to the fall of it, and likewise for socialism. The federal government can't manage "the individual judges, lawyers, law enforcers, churches, teachers, corporations, banks and finance sectors, the medica association." Because of mistakes made in the past, US accumulated debt, and everyone knows this, so situations don't improve right now.

As for the Iraq rapes, those are only a manifestation of human's tendency to torture others. Words like "owned" or "noob" came out from the younger generation and used to humiliated others, so even children have this tendency. Bullying happens in school as well. As for the adults, white people in the far past until just recently, buy slaves just for status symbol or treat them like trash. Asians in the past deform their female servants feet so they can't run out of there. Mayans were so desperate to control the weather, they think Gods are playing with them, and serve their own children as sacrifices, and they wiped out anyways.

Whether God was a him and her has nothing to do with the Illuminati. It's a preference of humans. At a time when it was peaceful, they think God was a woman. At wartimes, they would like to think God is militiant and makes order out of everything. Not only that, Kings and Emperors would like to say they're the reincarnation (asian) or represenative (christian, etc) of God himself. Men of royal bloodline challenges each other to become King. Women would not like challenges, so she lost her power over the throne. Then men became accustomed to a male leader and male God - male authority.

Why would God allow us to cut down trees to build concrete cities? Why did he allow us to develop the intelligence to do that in the first place. It's evolution. Whenever a species grow beyond its population capacity, they will harm the environment, which will curb the population. This has happened to other animals, and it's no different for humans.

[Astrojewels]

I’ll try not to think so big.

[William]

SI said... The federal government can't manage "the individual judges, lawyers, law enforcers, churches, teachers, corporations, banks and finance sectors, the medica association." Because of mistakes made in the past, US accumulated debt, and everyone knows this, so situations don't improve right now.
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Yes we can do a better job at all of this. Ask any Truthful person in one of those positions. They will tell you that its all controlled. They can tell you how It Should be run. The Laws are Written in such away to make things the way they are now. If we would just re-do Laws and the Law system, over night things would clear up. But see-ing as there is someone Dictating How These Laws are written and inforced should clue you that things are wrong from the Top Down.

Aj said some of the best things in her post.

SI, its ok if you dont see things right now. Your young. It took me 20 years from where you are to see things properly and im still learning!

[SilverInfinity]

Bills actually go through a complicated process to get passed. They need to be approved by both the House of Represenatives and the Senates, with enough votes, and then the president. I took a class in American Government, and did my own research because I don't want to be fed lies. The only way the President can control both HOR and the Senate is that he says he will not pass certain bills. He usually says this in the media, and neither the HOR or the Senate can do anything about a law if the President won't sign it. But the President cannot dictate what laws go through the complicated process because it's all individual votes.

The other possibility to dictate the HOR or the Senate is by the "leader" threatening their jobs. If this is true, then most will probably quit, and do something happier like become a public lawyer. Of couse, you can say the "leader" will ban him from any law-related job. But the equal opportunity laws will attract attention. If the media doesn't let the fired person speak, he always has the radio, and even internet. So far I haven't found a website that comes from someone working in HOR or the Senate claiming he was threatened or it's all controlled. Only someone working in a secret section of the government comes up, but because it's secret, his credentials is not public and no one can prove he really worked for the government.

Now the only possibility that the HOR and the Senate and the President work together is that they're all mind controlled, and I don't believe in mind control because it is not possible to make everyone a robot, and not have their friend, some relative that was overlooked in the mind control process, whoever, to speak up. Again, websites claiming this stuff without giving a name and job position that can be verified are bogus. You'd say it's possible to mind-control because the average american is a robot. But that's not true - if the Illuminati is real the people are just ignorant and not exposed to that information, not mindcontrolled by ELF waves. If most of us are mind-controlled, then there's no point in being an individual. You'd say they're mind controlled to consume.

On a related note, the media is not completely controlled by a "leader", but yes it's controlled by some invisible hand that drives supply and demand. Remember the hand from economy class? It makes reasonable sense. Anyways, I have a friend who will appear on a television show about young people reaching their goals. I promised him I can't give out the title. He will be followed for three months because he was one of the several people that fit the qualifications. He was a "nerd" who is heavily depressed about being skinny and wants to take up on the 12 week exercise program. You can say MTV is the common denominator for distributing mind-control through the TV to the young generation. The show is just trying to appeal to the idea of the underdog winning, so that advertisers are willing to pay more for their spots, because advertising research has been done that underdog winning is a theme that attracts young people. My friend was told he has to lie that he locked himself in his room to study like a nerd.

It seems we're "mind-controlled" to consume and be distracted about the "actual law process" and the war in Iraq. I'm sure that's just natural of humans to consume, and consume, and consume. Native Americans didn't mess with their environment, because it was in their culture, which was an artificial veil that prevents natural human behaivor. Similiarly, the Chinese discovered a few countries before Europe had because China was a superpower at the time Europe wasn't. But because of their culture to stay "domested" and introverted (a word with bad connation), they did not colonize the countries. Not because they couldn't - they had enough resources to reach a few countries. It's because of Chinese culture. While the Europeans don't have a culture about respecting nature or being peaceful, so they colonized as much countries as possible, earned konwledge from everywhere to be ahead of everyone in research. In a way, colonizing is consuming because you take from other countries. As you can see, consuming resources is a natural process of human beings to be on top of the "fitness" hierarchy.

Most royalty would consume, and consume, while there are peasants around them, with the exception of a few knights, taking the Europeans as an example, and sharing some food with everyone else would mean the royalty consumes less. Since sharing has more costs than benefits, it's not on the Royalty's mind to substantially improve situations. It's only when a group of people band together with a mindset for benefits, did America really started. I bet the founding fathers were heavily taxed as well as the pleasants, so they stood up for everyone, in order to stand for themselves in numbers. 

The HOR and the Senate and the President creates a balance so that representatives of the people can avoid the pitfalls of a person having control over the laws, with consuming and consuming, either that's resources, or colonies.

[William]

i WOULD agree with you SI, But i know differently. The above process is a farce. Im sorry you believe its real. There is no auguring about this or else we would take this to the world and show it to them. Most know its a farce just like the fake Elections we had in this suppose Free world. But even tho most know it was a scam on the American people and the world, still, they go along with it....... Just like the Gas and power craze. Even tho Most of use know there are viable alternative and even better way of producing energy even for less money and even less money to change over the system we are not going to do it.

What do you want SI??? Do you want us to see your way?? This is all part of your flip flopping. Next week you will be onto something else. Thats fine. And I enjoy a challenge. But Just because you cant see how peeple are acting like mindless robots does not mean we cant see it.

There is no pointing fingers at you SI, There is nothing wrong with you. We are not a cult here, we dont try to push our views onto anyone, however we do try to open others eyes to what is going on in our world.

All I can say to you, as ive said a few years ago. Your young and still learning, dont give up on us or yourself.

:)
peace bro