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[Mercy Now]

Sariel, You seem to possess a wealth of info on cultures in eastern europe. A blood relative of mine spent some(brief) time with what were then known, in the 1800's, as the Cicci  of the Wallachian people. Not much was said about them but villagers were amazed when he emerged unscathed.Do you happen to have any info on them?

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MC, With all due respect to your studies my understanding and info is ancestoral and occult. You won't find it by "googling". Your barbs and other attempts at intimidation and submission are impotent especially coming from someone who attempts to deceive people about her gender.

Being young at heart is a world apart from juvenile behavior.  

 iqhunk , Your assessment is nearly right on . BTW....the same relative who I mentioned to Sariel spent a great deal of time and study in India as well as Eygpt ,Africa and Arabia.

[Astrojewels]

iqhunk[/color]]I am [thankfully :)] not a specifically programmed blue eyed blonde, so for me and others the brown merger is no big deal.
For the programmed ones, if the brown merger is causing further chaos, the logical thing to do would be to use a violet circle/sphere in the Pineal Gland/Crown Chakra and gain wholeness. It cannot hurt.

Iqhunk,

It is not only blue eyed blondes that are specifically programmed; this is another fallacy that has been believed for way too long in the land of knowledge. The chaos has already been established in the mind of the programmed person using the merger, people that are in an altered state usually can not see that or even think that such a technique could have dire consequences, and yes Rodrigo is correct with it depending on each person.

[Astrojewels]

Octahedron[/color]]The example of Astrojewels for me is quite serious.

The merger symbol can be counterproductive, altough in general it had to be used for integration,

It can be contra-productive esp. for specialized programmed people i.e. in these situations:

- Merger symbol can trigger/activate internal guards to blow up all the earlier deprogramming work, even when in the beginning merger symbol does work for a while.

- Internal guards are becoming active to put in the self-sabotage scenario. Secret alters can go sabotaging when merger symbol has integrated the mind beyond a certain level which would not be tolerated by other guards or internal alters; or maybe the mind is set back by satelite control after some progress in the beginning.

therefore if you don't feel happy with merger symbol try at least to use save archetypes like: violet, balancing, lion freq, silver infinity

Octahedron,

I have found that the merger actually re-opens the original structure of energy when the person was physically taken and programmed, but I should say violated. It is like an adult that was abused as a child, put the memories into lock up, and then the abuser takes that adult and restructures the events, but mostly the feelings, emotions and confusion, as it must be remembered that people whom are specifically programmed are done so during adolescence or younger.  

As the mind has already put these memories into lock up, the merger puts them into an untouchable state, so that after using such a technique the person can no longer acknowledge anything that happened, with this done the programming has no hope of ever being controlled.

[Sariel]

Mercy Now[/color]]Sariel, You seem to possess a wealth of info on cultures in eastern europe. A blood relative of mine spent some(brief) time with what were then known, in the 1800's, as the Cicci  of the Wallachian people. Not much was said about them but villagers were amazed when he emerged unscathed.Do you happen to have any info on them?

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MC, With all due respect to your studies my understanding and info is ancestoral and occult. You won't find it by "googling". Your barbs and other attempts at intimidation and submission are impotent especially coming from someone who attempts to deceive people about her gender.

Being young at heart is a world apart from juvenile behavior.  

 iqhunk , Your assessment is nearly right on . BTW....the same relative who I mentioned to Sariel spent a great deal of time and study in India as well as Eygpt ,Africa and Arabia.

Yeah, I heard for them but they were of no importance to me, particularly. Some of them live in Istria right now after moving from Wallachia and they have kind of their language that is really mixture of others languages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istria
Ćićarija mountain is named after them in Istria.

Wallachian are really mixture of Thracian and Vlahs are what I wrote previously former Roman military veterans from North Africa who mixed with locals. There were other ethnic groups that mixed too, so, it is quite of mixture after so many times.
There is some resemblance  of Gypsies with these groups too, because gypsies have been often mistaken with these groups. After so many years it is really hard to tell who come from where.

Well, I know that some of these tribal groups could be quite dangerous, because they trafficked with people in similar way like mafia is doing today.

So, I am glad that he was lucky.

[Mercy Now]

There is some resemblance  of Gypsies with these groups too, because gypsies have been often mistaken with these groups. After so many years it is really hard to tell who come from where.

 

Ahh! Now that makes sense Sariel as  he spent a great deal of time with Gypsies as well.

Thank You

[Sariel]

You welcome

btw.
Where is ShadowRunner, I enjoy his posts and a blunt way of approach.

[Iam_That_Iam]

Astrojewels[/color]]

Octahedron[/color]]The example of Astrojewels for me is quite serious.

The merger symbol can be counterproductive, altough in general it had to be used for integration,

It can be contra-productive esp. for specialized programmed people i.e. in these situations:

- Merger symbol can trigger/activate internal guards to blow up all the earlier deprogramming work, even when in the beginning merger symbol does work for a while.

- Internal guards are becoming active to put in the self-sabotage scenario. Secret alters can go sabotaging when merger symbol has integrated the mind beyond a certain level which would not be tolerated by other guards or internal alters; or maybe the mind is set back by satelite control after some progress in the beginning.

therefore if you don't feel happy with merger symbol try at least to use save archetypes like: violet, balancing, lion freq, silver infinity

Octahedron,

I have found that the merger actually re-opens the original structure of energy when the person was physically taken and programmed, but I should say violated. It is like an adult that was abused as a child, put the memories into lock up, and then the abuser takes that adult and restructures the events, but mostly the feelings, emotions and confusion, as it must be remembered that people whom are specifically programmed are done so during adolescence or younger.  

As the mind has already put these memories into lock up, the merger puts them into an untouchable state, so that after using such a technique the person can no longer acknowledge anything that happened, with this done the programming has no hope of ever being controlled.

hmm...  interesting...

So as it "...re-opens the original structure of energy...", Would using  some form of  "Release  Excersise" help  bring closure  to  that painful programming memories as they come up.... while doing the "Brown Merger" exercise...? 

Then again those memories or set of them, may come up like papers from tissue box.... that experience may seem chaotic as well...

Another reason why some people may have chaotic experience... is the fact that the artificial Order or cube Matrix of the mind will be in chaos... as it will no longer function as programmed.

[Octahedron]

ITI, thank you.

Yes, I think the examples of Astrojewels are indicating how merger symbol can have effects.

I think integrating parts of the mind step by step by mixing releasework in little parts with the merger symbol after releasesteps is likely a good strategy.

i.e. only 1 merger per release exercise/ or released issue; and the issue is not to big in the beginning; otherwise you have to break the issue in more parts and then release these parts step by step.

The merger symbol will then merge mind-parts which are just "cleansed" by releasework and emptied from junk or trauma.

[MC]

iqhunk[/color]]I have studied chaos magick, it is very much different from Alchemy. Parsons and Hubbard applied Chaos Magick in the Mojave. They strictly want to download Astral Reptilain goddesses into sucking the psychic consciousness of the Earth Soul Personality, and gain energy in exchange for their own parallel lifelines where they would be kings serving the "goddesses".
The Alchemist wants to be King by self growth, mastery of elements, mastery of breath control and positive vibrational polarity without any Astral Intercessor.
Neither want to chicken out into Nirvana like Kundalini Yogis, that is the only thing common.
I agree with MC, in sigils and Sirian Languages like Hebrew, Aramaci and Arabic, even the change of a dot will change the effect. So Hand of Eris and Merger Symbol are not the same even if they both be equally harmful to programmed folk.

Mercy Now,perhaps you should read this once again.It comes from another person who HAS STUDIED IT.Your understanding of chaos magick comes from ancestoral and occult? Well,I hate to burst your bubble as the americans would say,but you apparently did not understand anything about it,nor have you studied it yourself.My post was not meant to intimidate anyone nor to put them in any submission.Another apsolutely ridiculous thing to say,just like the claim about chaos magick and everything else.And,my gender is not the issue here.Whether you think I'm a female,a male or an IT doesn't concern me,nor do I owe anyone any explanations of who or what I am,especially not you,who likes to write about things you know nothing of.

[Mercy Now]

Who said your gender was the issue?  You have this way of clouding the actual issue .

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