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Hi Sifter, it looks like I picked up the Rite Action discussion and put it on your oath to Gaia page. Sorry, I didn't realize that this was here. Anyway, we can never get enough Gaia Sophia, lol!
Hi Q3, :) "Finally, calling upon the Powers, the Force, the Old Gods, or the Angels/Devils of the Q only gets YOU noticed by them, and tells all of creation that YOU think it is OK to use Evil Magick against People (it is not) so guess what?
"Evil Magick is OK to be used against YOU! (you said so) and so, you will lose any spiritual protection you have, your guides and guardians will cease communicating, and may abandon you, leaving you defenseless except for whatever powers and abilities you have acquired through study." (QP)
"How, in such a world, do accountable people act toward those who refuse to be accountable?" (Lash)
This is a righteous duty "(Ri(gh)t action)"to use subtle, powerful energy in conjunction with "Gaia's self-protection-spirit-force" like Kali to defeat the dark predators upon humanity. We will continue to be protected and even given EXTRA protection to do so. I have already tested this and know it to be so.
Our spirits, which our encased in soul(s)...a four letter word. Souls can be shattered and programmed...spirits can not, are what they seek to imprison via the soul (prison bars). Lucifer et al in order to keep the whole shebang or virtual reality illusion going, tries to highjack our soul and spirit energy through the victim/predator symbiotic energy exchange. If we of fearless warrior Goddess make- up (we know who we are--it's not for everyone) put a spanner in the dark's works it is to be considered a divine gift to gaia's creation and will be seen as such.
Personally, I've been at this a very long time at a smaller scale and have ALWAYS emerged victorious. This time will be no different. I'm considered to be a karma catalyst (I use the word karma loosely)and I've watched many injustices get exposed around me throughout my life. I work subtly, sometimes not so subtly. I have always been curiously absent of fear when confronting tyrants. My uncle, (the rocket engineer who reported to Werner Von Braun for 13 years) always noticed this about me when I was a baby and then a young girl. He told my dad, "there's something different about this one, watch her and learn."
When I was younger I couldn't quite figure out why there was so much going on around me and why everyone else always seemed so chicken?! I was ALWAYS bold (got away with it and knew I would prevail. I always did)...but I'm 50 now. As David Byrne of the Talking Heads says, "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around." I am female, I am a mother, they WILL FEEL MY FULL WRATH. I have no fear, remember. I don't worry about being protected...It's a given. I'm on the dharmic side.
I, Elizabeth,(It means oath to God, promised to God) throw my lot in with Gaia's self protective mechanisms (spirit forces) to aid her in her time of need...this the 12th hour. WHILE MEN(tptb)QUAKE, THE GODDESS WILL RISE.
***Now, who's with me?***
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SIfter, excellent link clarifying ethics and whether one would be right for this. I wanted to post a bit of what he wrote:
"Yeah, sacred anger is still lingering in the air. We are going to be, we are entering a period now in the fall of this year, after the 10th anniversary of 911, [sic-THAT MEANS NOW FOLKS!] when the spell of the psyops begins to wear off, this is a really critical moment… as the spell of the 911 psyops wears off, we get our reasoning powers back, and we get our first and second attention back, operating, more or less, at the level we need. And we then have the opportunity in this time, to formulate our counter magic, to the evil that’s being perpetrated on this planet. And the timing is very critical, the clock is running very fast because the third …of the end game or planetary or global magic is coming our way, really fast. 911 wasn’t the end of something, it was the next to the last move. And they are in a sense, the people who perpetrated that are under pressure as some of us come out of the spell of the psyops of 911. They’re under pressure to pull off the end game, or the third act of that psyops… which for them would be,*** WOULD BE THE DEATH BLOW OF OUR SPECIES*** if they are allowed to do it. So we are in a really critical moment here, and it’s a very good time to start these talks. So I don’t know what else I can say as a concluding note… what are your thoughts here, Thomas?
Well, I guess kind of in conclusion then would be what you have up on metahistory.org so far for people to focus in on, as they prepare for what we’re going to be going in to, would be Rite Action, with the two essays, Open Season on Predators I, and II… and I would guess also ‘Take Back the Planet’, the article on…"
"...In the two essays and ‘Open Season on Predators’ I explained that we are the only species that preys upon its own kind. So I introduced this term, ‘Intra Species Predation’ Intra. I - N- T- R-A, which means‘within. Predation within our own species. The problem that we face, the greatest threat to the divine experiment, of the Aeon Sophia, is that we have human predators, in our own midst, who are intentionally and deliberately behaving in a way that does not allow the majority of human beings to enter and fulfill that experiment. Now don’t read this wrong, the intraspecies predators, the psychopaths among us, who operate through secrecy and manipulation, are not targeted against the divine experiment. In many cases, they don’t even know what it is… so don’t…it’s not that kind of a game. We are in a war, and we are in a psychological war as well as a psychological war for our survival as a species. But who is really the enemy? Who? We have to identify the enemy… and the enemy is within our own fold. So that’s what I mean by intraspecies predation. I mean, we’re a hell of a species. We’re also masters of interspecies predation. Which means, ‘among species’, you know… We have a.. if you look at other species, like ah… leopards or snakes of various kinds the cobra preys on certain animals, it doesn’t pray on everything that comes along. The leopard or the puma preys on certain animals, it has a chosen range of prey. The grey whale preys on certain creatures in the sea and has a chosen range of prey. That’s interspecies predation, from one species to another. We prey on all species, and ourselves to boot, I mean, this is a hell of a package. And unless you can face this, unless you’ve got the guts to face this, you don’t really belong in Kali’s band. So… we’re really going to look at some brutal facts here, folks… and I’m not gonna pull any punches, because it’s time to really face the enemy and it’s time to face the evil operating in our own midst and take a stand against it, instead of finger pointing and whining and complaining and bitching on for hours and hours about the powers of the global psychopaths and how they’ve got us in their game… I mean, fu*k that! You know? It’s too late in the game for that kind of talk. It’s time to be responsible" (Lash).
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. "There is a war on for your mind, some people say. And what if psychological warfare has been used against the population since the days of 1950s, the era of the Manchurian Candidate? ****What if we are already living in a world where "black magic" has gotten out of control.****If so, it would be wise to know who the magicians are (coming up in the fast lane of Kalika instruction), what their methods and intentions are on all sides (to be eminently clarified), and how to define the rules of engagement (hang on to your panties)(Lash)
Black magic most certainly has gotten out of control. The black magicians are desperate...their backs are against the wall and they are also very dangerous (like a cornered rat), in their current situation. Like Jeffrey Dahmer who after being apprehended said that he was relieved that he got caught because he could not stop himself from killing. So can the dark ones not stop themselves either.
Hi Sifter, thanks for the links.
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Hi Elizabeth... how did I knew you were a candidate? LOL... thanks for keeping this thread alive.... I've had company all week.
http://radio.telestai.org/transcripts/Ga...alk_1.html
Just a snippet of an interview between Thomas Malone & JLL:
JLL:
Freedom is of the highest value to warriors. The gift of the Nagual is freedom… and so… you select yourself, all I can do is present you with the criteria for selection, and here they are…
Look at yourself and see if you have a large amount of transpersonal rage
on board. Because the fuel of Rite Action and Gaian Eco-Sorcery is transpersonal rage and you must be able to carry that rage as a weapon, like a Samurai carries his or her sword… very, very carefully, you don’t cut yourself with it, or you don’t cut anyone with it or harm anyone with it… right?
TM:
Yes.
JLL:
That’s right. So you have to ask yourself, “Do I have the transpersonal rage for this practice and you also have to distinguish between transpersonal rage and hatred. This has nothing to do with hatred, personal hatred… although it does have to do with hatred of behaviors… certain behaviors, like the behavior of secrecy…of manipulation, of control… do you really hate those behaviors, and do you hate them in a way that doesn’t polarize you to them so that you become enmeshed with those behaviors that you hate. So you have to really examine yourself rigorously here… you have to ask yourself… can you be detached and objective in your hatred and use your transpersonal rage as a tool.? That’s the first question, second question is you got to ask yourself,
(2.) Do you believe in karma? Now I… there is a short essay on karma, a short section on karma in this ah… introductory essay… tough to say that if you believe in karma, that is to say…that there is some kind of reward and punishment system in the universe that if people have a bad time in life they deserve it because of something they did before, or if people have an easy and good time in life they deserve that because of something they did. If you believe that anybody deserves anything you don’t belong in this practice. I want that to be really loud and clear.
TM:
Indeed, yeah, karma can also be used as a control mechanism as well.
JLL:
Karma is a control mechanism, it’s a fairy tale told by old men to control mischievous children…and I belong to a tribe of mischievous children that can not be controlled by old men and will not be controlled… by old women, by that matter. So, if you believe in karmic cause and effect you don’t qualify, there is no karma… and a Gaian eco-warrior who uses a lethal kill does it in the impeccable art of the practice… and doing so there is no consequence. If you want to understand… There is no consequence on the warrior, there is no consequence of killing, none whatsoever if it is done in the correct way.
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continued at the link above.
For proper context reed the three pages that started this thread.
You will know if you are a candidate.
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I want to make this statement : I am NOT welcoming anyone who is compelled to argue or lecture on this thread, the topic of Karma... so, if you feel compelled, open your own thread.
-Sifter
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If someone is compelled to open a thread on karma (I am not) for I have scrutinized and tested the concept for a better part of 3 decades now--please do so and I will contribute to it. I subjected the concept to my personal acid test of reading voraciously, mulling it over, meditating, then praying about it and then finally STRIPPING MY MIND AND EYES OF PRECONCEPTIONS! I personally call this last step, BABY EYES. You can call it blank slate or whatever you'd like, but I think that it's an essential step in the process.
Sifter, have you heard whether/when Lash will write the third part? The morning after I posted my public oath and then first prayed then meditated (over offering my services to Gaia), I chatted with one of the mothers at the bus stop. She's from India. We were chatting about the pantheon of Hindu Gods and Goddesses. She, very organically loves KALI MA and calls her the "FUN GODDESS" with great affection. I also remember this from my 6-month trip to India that the dramatizations and kali temples were the most "fun" to observe and visit. KALI is, of course, DEADLY SERIOUS, and YOU don't want to get on her bad side. RAAAAARRGHGHGHHG!
~~~TOO LATE FOR YOU SKEEVY PTB! HEE HEE HEE!~~~
P.S. @Sifter, I'm very much of that make-up too. I love to have fun! I have no patience for bullies and tyrants--NONE--never have. I'm not afraid to stand up and nail 'em. AND I REALLY GET A KICK OUT OF DOING THAT TOO! :D
--KALI, I'M YOUR GAL!--
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Interesting thing though is that I'm pondering the assignment of gender to the planet.. the "why do that at all"...
not sure why I mention it other than my life experience as a female had me observing my "younger" days in relationship w/men, that was to be a 'stimulus' (to put it lightly) to the men in my life because for some reason they had lost their "balls" of direction... which naturally had me put them on, so to speak.
Eventually even though I'm a can do/does kinda person, the man in my current life is too... sort of anticipates what needs to be done and does it without "needing" the female to tell him... make sense?
I'm treading lightly to not PISS OFF the earth by assigning gender although all throughout lore, tradition of ages past to present, it is done as "female"...
I'm going to pay attention to this inward prompt and not dare to address the planet as either one of the genders... hmmm, that just has me by the ass as important. What ya think Elizabeth. It's out of the box for sure! lol
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Elizabeth, sorry I didn't answer your questions. And dammit, we have even MORE company coming Friday when I'm wanting to devote time in getting up to speed...
so, no, I don't know when he will do pt 3 but the telestai site has a LOT of info... it's all relatively very recent, current!
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Planetary Tantra is a power TRIP..... there are aspects of human behavior that love, harmony and getting along doesn't reach... and we cannot be power less on this planet.
It is a power sharing arrangement. Planetary Tantra is a practice of power sharing with the earth, a living planet, and the unique characteristic of this path is not about the love of power in the sense of using power over other people. It's about the love of HANDLING power and the pleasure it is to handle power.
An example: when a concert violinist performs in an orchestra, playing solo in a concerto and all the other members of that orchestra participate and the conductor is conducting the orchestra, they are handling power. And the experience of handling the power to play the violin beautifully ... the power to shoot a zen bow in archery...the power to make a cup of tea...the power to do anything in a vurtuoso fashion is extremely beautiful & pleasurable.
The power that you have, first, is your own power, your own ability as a human being to express yourself, attention and imagination, the power of all your emotions, positive and negative, anger, love alike, indifference, contempt, joy...
handling that power w/beauty, skill, compassion, and in a non harming way except in the case of those who harm.
It's often said in spiritual traditions that the principle of harmlessness is supreme... love everyone, do no harm ...
let's define principle of harmlessness as far as it goes . It's not very realistic and in certain ways it's insidiously wrong ...because there are certain behaviors of certain human beings that cannot be tolerated. Those behaviors are, let me list some:
abuse and sexual molestation of children, any kind of physical and verbal abuse to another human being, doing harm to animals, raping of nature, inconsiderate use of nature... harming others by deceiving them as well as actually physically harming them. And these behaviors cnnot be tolerated.
If you are a loving person, you cannot simply be a passive person who allows those things to happen. You need to have the power to resist and overcome those behaviors in other people. So there is an aspect of planetary tantra ...which concerns the power to defend the earth, the power to defend what lives against what threatens to harm and hurt and deceive and this is a responsibility and commitment that comes along w/this practice.
The planet has an immune system. Certain cells...go to the place where the body is wounded or go to the place where the body is threatened and fight off the invader and they heal.
Do you want to be a part of Gaia's immune system? That's the opportunity... there is a warrior aspect to it. Part of the pleasure of handling power is to be able to use it on perpetrators.
...Gaia adds the force of her animal powers..when you align with her you become part of that defensive system and you learn to use your power in accordance with that system.
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there's an example of host of this interview w/John Lash, who gives his experience after taking the planetary tantra Vow.
http://radio.telestai.org/files/Planetar...281%29.mp3
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