Swerdlow stole hyperspace techniques from Marianne

[Octahedron]

iqhunk, watch the Expansions' DVD mind-control & programming part 1.

Janet speaks in that DVD about her ritual programming, and her Shirley Temple programming.

[iqhunk]

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MN isn't the only one that says that. I've heard it from a few people and one of them you respect and that's AJ.
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Does not matter, I know the charts of MODs.
It is extremely difficult for Janet to be an MOD. As Octahedron stated, ritual programming is possible for her [She has the astrological signature for that through Asteroid Hekate] but without a number 19, you are not going to be a specific MOD [which is a very very high position in the Bloodline Ranks. ]

If anyone has been born on a year whose digits add up to 19, or whose day + month + year adds to 19, or they have 19 degrees in their Ascendant, Sun or Moon... then they are candidates. This needs to be followed up by other astrological aspects as evidence, plus childhood abuse.

And why isn't anyone stopping to think about this core point of programming:
A Handler cannot be sexually imprinted by the Slave, that too a Scorpio Slave. Scorpio Men PROGRAM others. Aquarius women are too Air-Headed to do anything secretive.

My other concern is that you are in a position of strength, they have responded to your letters and Patricia's name has been removed. Now you want to give them some ammunition with which Janet can allege Libel ?! You want to give them a backdoor to get you when the going is good?

That is called "Self Sabotage" Programming. Before pointing to MOD in others, we better remove this programming.

[Octahedron]

...  My other concern is that you are in a position of strength, they have responded to your letters and Patricia's name has been removed. Now you want to give them some ammunition with which Janet can allege Libel ?! You want to give them a backdoor to get you when the going is good? ...

No, I don't feel I am the emperor of the internet, not yet. :D

Where is their concrete response ?

Patricia's name is removed and also Richard's somewhat , yes I see.

I don't understand your question about ammunition and a backdoor; maybe you can explain more.

 

[Iam_That_Iam]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

[user=23]Iam_That_Iam[/user] wrote:

It's possible the moment J met SS, she got brainwashed by him.

I think it's the other way around since janet is stew's handler.

Whether J is/was an handler knowingly/unknowingly or she is/was a mind control victim... typically and supposedly programming(s) updates is passed on, from a female to a male via sexual means... either they both self-sabotaged themselves or one did it to the other...

[Richard]

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MN isn't the only one that says that. I've heard it from a few people and one of them you respect and that's AJ.
"

Does not matter, I know the charts of MODs.
It is extremely difficult for Janet to be an MOD. As Octahedron stated, ritual programming is possible for her [She has the astrological signature for that through Asteroid Hekate] but without a number 19, you are not going to be a specific MOD [which is a very very high position in the Bloodline Ranks.]

If anyone has been born on a year whose digits add up to 19, or whose day + month + year adds to 19, or they have 19 degrees in their Ascendant, Sun or Moon... then they are candidates. This needs to be followed up by other astrological aspects as evidence, plus childhood abuse.

And why isn't anyone stopping to think about this core point of programming:
A Handler cannot be sexually imprinted by the Slave, that too a Scorpio Slave. Scorpio Men PROGRAM others. Aquarius women are too Air-Headed to do anything secretive..

All specifically programmed people have a handler. Since you think J isn't S's handler, who do you think it is?

[iqhunk]

Octahedron wrote:
"I don't understand your question about ammunition and a backdoor; maybe you can explain more."
The front door has been bolted very well and is defended by Yukesam. Mercy Now should have kept her unverifiable allegations against Janet to herself till
a) Stewart apologized to all those he insulted
b) Cleared Richard and Yukesam's name as well from that fraud site supposedly in Europe.
c) And some time elapses.

By making unverifiable claims against Janet, she is allowing the Swerldows a "back door" entry to again rack up allegations against the intellectual credibility of those doing the exposing. And this can undo the effect of the expose done so far.

These guys have put their names/businesses on the line, MN is nothing but an "anonymous coward" for all practical purposes as far as the expose is concerned and she should either give credible, verifiable evidence or share her unprovable thoughts through PM. Normally she can give excellent information and shares great links, commendable links but when it comes to Janet she goes off the deep end like a mind controlled triggered hate zombie, in fact this too could be some kind of sabotage program embedded within her when she allowed their scan. Or it is some past life vendetta thingy, I don't know but it is very unnecessary and self-defeating at the moment. Just like bad mouthing David Icke and Alex Jones, that was total lunacy in the context of exposing Stewart.

@Richard,
The way Stew is behaving right now, it is as if he has no handler and is functioning independently. Loose cannon. Someone as sophisticated, allegedly powerful and important enough to work on Montauk as Stew will usually have an impeccable handler, someone the level of Kissinger or a close European associate of the Pindar himself. It is difficult to speculate, I know there were too many changes after Antarctica but I would suspect the earlier or latter trips to Europe hold the answers. Frankly I do not know the exact handler and I do not want to lie, I will admit to not knowing instead.

[Octahedron]

Octahedron wrote:
"I don't understand your question about ammunition and a backdoor; maybe you can explain more."
The front door has been bolted very well and is defended by Yukesam. Mercy Now should have kept her unverifiable allegations against Janet to herself till
a) Stewart apologized to all those he insulted
b) Cleared Richard and Yukesam's name as well from that fraud site supposedly in Europe.
c) And some time elapses.

By making unverifiable claims against Janet, she is allowing the Swerldows a "back door" entry to again rack up allegations against the intellectual credibility of those doing the exposing. And this can undo the effect of the expose done so far.

These guys have put their names/businesses on the line, MN is nothing but an "anonymous coward" for all practical purposes as far as the expose is concerned and she should either give credible, verifiable evidence or share her unprovable thoughts through PM. Normally she can give excellent information and shares great links, commendable links but when it comes to Janet she goes off the deep end like a mind controlled triggered hate zombie, in fact this too could be some kind of sabotage program embedded within her when she allowed their scan. Or it is some past life vendetta thingy, I don't know but it is very unnecessary and self-defeating at the moment. Just like bad mouthing David Icke and Alex Jones, that was total lunacy in the context of exposing Stewart.

 

Why should I give Expansions Inc. a backdoor because of MN's posts ?

And IF, I say IF, IF Expansions has problems with the posts of MN (as far as they are written in public) and they have good reasons to deny MN's postings, in case of MN, they just only have to say or write, "the claims of MN are not true". Why should that be a backdoor ?

They (Expansions) still have to reply to the hard claims and exposed statements written in the "exposing Expansions" thread either.

Nobody here has to monitor MN all around the internet, esp. I have no access to private forums, and I don't want to be involved there either. The only thing what can be done is to ask MN to support her claims with more proofs or information that can be verified, or otherwise to stop with giving unproven statements, which will empower the focusing direction of the "exposing Expansions" thread.

And I think IF, I say IF, IF Stewart Swerdlow admits, he had people insulted or abused under the flag of Expansions (that time has not come yet); then likely, I think, his apologies are not enough.

Expansions has still all the opportunities to reply and to make things clear for everybody. They claim to speak for the truth; So, let's see and just wait on their truthful replies.

I don't see any backdoor or escape for Expansions given by me; esp. with this post of me.

 

[projectiles]

[color="#aa0000"]There's no way Expansions will admit to any of this. They have no other method to generate any pay. And you know S & J aren't about seek employment at walmart. They're gonna try and sustain Expansions for as long as they legally can [/color]icon_yes icon_yes

[Astrojewels]

Iqhunk,

Handlers do get sexually imprinted, and I can also tell you that an astrological chart will not always show the energy of a MOD, your words resonate such a strong opinion of MN, and the way you are defending JS is very strange indeed, especially when you do not know what you are talking about, you are saying there is no proof, yet your words are based on hearsay, and you tend to do that as I have read your comments on my husband on other forums, when you have never spoke to him or even asked him if it is ok for you to talk of him, yet you make an opinion, I always respect your threads but when they get like this, I see you have an outside force manipulating you, and you say you are not programmed! we are all programmed in some way, shape or form....

This thread really needs to go back to the topic and not a finger pointing energy based conversation.

[projectiles]

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