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Interview with ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANÒ APOSTOLIC NUNCIO
A seasoned Vatican diplomat warns the world about globalism and the COVIDcrisis narrative

Robert W Malone MD, MS
Jun 30

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Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò was the Apostolic Nuncio to the United States from 2011 to 2016. He also previously served as Secretary-General of the Governorate of the Vatican City State from 2009 to 2011. He is notable for his role in bringing to light scandals and corruption within the hierarchy of the Catholic Church and in the world, especially in revealing the wide-spread cover-up of the abuses of Theodore McCarrick.

INTERVIEW WITH STEVE BANNON

BY ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANÒ APOSTOLIC NUNCIO

YOUR EXCELLENCY, after the psycho-pandemic, we now have the Russian- Ukrainian crisis. Are we in “phase two” of one single project, or can we now consider the Covid farce to be over and concern ourselves with the increase in energy prices?

If in the last two years we had been faced with a true pandemic, caused by a deadly virus for which no other cures existed except for a vaccine, we would be able to think that the emergency was not intended. But this is not what happened: the SARS-CoV-2 virus is nothing but a seasonal flu that could have been cured with existing treatments and effective prevention based on strengthening immune defenses. The prohibition of treatment, the discrediting of the effectiveness of drugs that have been in use for decades, the decision to hospitalize the elderly who became sick in nursing homes and the imposition of an experimental gene treatment that has been demonstrated not only to be ineffective but also harmful and often fatal – all this confirms for us that the pandemic has been planned and managed with the purpose of creating the greatest damage possible. This is a fact that has been established and confirmed by the official data, despite the systematic falsification of that same data.

Certainly, those who wanted to manage the pandemic in this way are not disposed now to yield easily, also because there are billionaire interests behind all of it. But what “they” want does not always necessarily happen.

In your opinion, Your Excellency, was the pandemic managed in this way due to inexperience? Or was it due to the corruption of those in positions of control who are in a conflict of interest because they are paid off by the pharmaceutical industry?

This is the second element to consider: the response to the pandemic was the same all over the world, where health authorities slavishly adapted to health protocols that were contrary to the scientific literature and medical evidence, instead following the directives of self-proclaimed “experts,” who have a record of sensational failures, apocalyptic predictions completely divorced from reality, and very grave conflicts of interest. We cannot think that millions of doctors all over the world have lost their basic knowledge of the art of medicine, believing that a flu should be allowed to evolve into pneumonia and then be treated with tachypirin or by placing patients on ventilators. If they have done this, it is due to pressure – even to the point of blackmail – by health authorities over medical personnel, with the help of a scandalous campaign of media terrorism and with the support of Western leaders. Most of these leaders are members of a lobby – the World Economic Forum – that trained them and placed them at the highest levels of national and international institutions in order to be certain that those who govern would be obedient. Klaus Schwab has publicly boasted, on many occasions, of being able to interfere even with religious leaders. These too are documented facts in all the nations that followed the directives of the WHO and the pharmaceutical companies. There is clearly a single script under a single direction: this demonstrates the existence of a criminal design and the malice of its creators.

In some of your other statements, you have spoken of a “golpe bianco” (a “silent coup”).

A “silent coup” is a coup d’état that takes place without the use of force, carried out by a government that exercises power in an unconstitutional way.

In this case the coup was carried out in all the Western nations almost simultaneously, beginning with the first years of the 1990s. For Italy, this coup began with the divestment of investee companies and the privatization of services that normally burdened the treasury, such as health and transportation services, following the directives given by high finance to Mario Draghi on June 2, 1992, on the yacht Britannia. Yes, Mario Draghi, who at the time was General Director of the Ministry of the Treasury and whom then- President of the Italian Republic Francesco Cossiga called a “cowardly businessman.” In other nations this coup took place in an analogous way, with a series of progressive transfers of sovereignty to supra-national entities like the European Commission, the European Central Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank. With the introduction of the euro [in 2002], monetary sovereignty was removed from the nations adhering to the Maastricht Treaty, transferring it to the European Central Bank, which is a private bank. This bank decides the rate with which it finances national budgets, using money that these same nations have already given it. In practice, the European Central Bank demands interest on money that it only returns a penny at a time, and only on certain conditions: reforms, cuts in public spending, the imposition of laws promoting gender equality, abortion rights, the indoctrination of children, etc. The introduction of a balanced budget requirement into the [Italian] Constitution – as if the State was a company – was also part of the silent coup.

All the members of these bodies, including the same rulers who have been appointed at the recommendation of non-elected powers or have succeeded in winning election thanks to the manipulation of information, are at the same time the servants of high finance power groups or of large investment funds – some were their employees, such as Draghi of Goldman Sachs – others became employees after their term ended. Just like the drug agencies and health organizations are composed of former BigPharma employees, who often receive consulting contracts and who are paid by the very pharmaceutical companies they are supposed to be keeping an eye on.

Up until the pandemic, power was in practice still managed at least formally by individual nations, and laws were passed by Parliaments. But for the last two years, the Parliaments have been deprived of authority, and all those whom the World Economic Forum and other lobbies have succeeded in placing at the high levels of governments and international institutions have begun to legislate against the Constitution and the interests of the Nation, obeying orders given to them from on high – “from the markets,” they tell us – which in fact is made up of a very small number of multinational corporations that engulf competing companies, flatten professional skills with damage to the quality of the product, and reduce the protection and wages of workers thanks to the complicity of unions and of the Left.

In short, we are governed by a high command of usurers and speculators, from Bill Gates who invests in large farms right on the eve of the food emergency or in vaccines just before the outbreak of the pandemic, to George Soros, who speculates on the fluctuations of currencies and government bonds and along with Hunter Biden finances a bio-laboratory in Ukraine.

To think that there is no relationship between the instigators of these crimes and those who carry them out at the highest levels of national governments, the EU, and the UN is a sign of bad faith, because even a child could understand that we are held hostage by a group of technocrats who are ideologically deviant and morally corrupt. The peoples of the world need to reclaim their sovereignty, which has been usurped by the globalist elite.

The instigators of this crime show themselves proudly at the Davos Forum, at meetings of the Trilateral Commission or the Bilderberg Group along with the rulers, prime ministers, directors of newspapers and television broadcasters, CEOs of social bankers and directors of social platforms and multinational corporations, bankers and directors of ratings agencies, presidents of foundations and self-styled philanthropists. All of these share the same agenda – which they publish on their websites – and are so confident in their own power that they affirm it with impunity – as Soros and Schwab have recently done – that it is necessary to create a narrative to be conveyed through the mainstream media, in order to make their decisions acceptable to the people. They embrace censorship and mass manipulation as instrumentum regni, and we have had proof of this both with the pandemic farce as well as with the pro-Zelensky propaganda in Ukraine.

We must understand that our rulers are traitors of our Nation who are devoted to the elimination of populations, and that all of their actions are carried out in order to cause the greatest amount of harm to citizens. It is not a problem of inexperience or inability but rather of an intentio nocendi – a deliberate intention to harm. Honest citizens find it inconceivable that those who govern them could do it with the perverse intention of undermining and destroying them, so much so that they find it very hard to believe. The main cause of this very serious problem is found in the corruption of authority along with the resigned obedience of those who are governed.

The Catholic Church also, beginning with the revolution of Vatican II and above all during the last nine years of the Bergoglian “pontificate,” has experienced the same cognitive dissonance: the faithful and the Clergy have resigned themselves to obeying mere cynical officials – who are no less corrupt and perverted than their counterparts in the deep state – although it has been evident that the purpose of the alleged “reforms” has always been the systematic destruction of the Church by its highest leaders, who are heretics and traitors. And I note that the deep church has had recourse to the same false arguments in order to pass off the doctrinal, moral, and liturgical dissolution: first of all, the false contention that those reforms were requested “from the ground up” and not imposed with force from on high. Just like the reforms planned by the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg group, and the Trilateral are adopted by their infiltrators in the highest levels of nations and international organisms, making it appear that their plans are ratified by popular consent.

And what do you advise, Your Excellency, to get out of this dead end?

Respect for authority is connatural to civilized man, but it is necessary to distinguish between obedience and servility. You see, every virtue consists of the just mean between two opposite vices, without being a compromise, but also as the peak between two valleys, so to speak. Disobedience sins by falling short, not wanting to submit to a good order of a legitimate authority; servility on the other hand sins by excess, submitting to unfair orders or orders given by an illegitimate authority. The good citizen should know how to disobey civil authority, and the good Catholic how to do the same with ecclesiastical authority, disobeying whenever the authority demands obedience to an iniquitous order.

Doesn’t such talk seem to be a bit revolutionary, Your Excellency?

Far from it. The anarchists and courtiers both have a distorted concept of authority: the former deny it while the latter idolize it. The just mean is the only morally viable way, because it responds to the order that the Lord has imprinted on the world and that respect the celestial hierarchy. We owe obedience to legitimate authority in the measure in which its power is exercised for the purposes for which authority has been established by God: the temporal good of citizens in the case of the State and the spiritual good of the faithful in the case of the Church. An authority that imposes evil on its subjects is for that very reason illegitimate and its orders are null. Let’s not forget that the true Lord from whom all authority comes is God, and that the earthly authority – civil as well as spiritual – is always vicarious, that is, it is subject to the authority of Jesus Christ, King and High Priest. Setting up the vicarious authority of rulers in the place of the royal authority of the Lord is a mad gesture and – yes – revolutionary and rebellious.

What does the elite want to obtain? It promises us peace, security, prosperity, and work, but there are more than fifty armed conflicts currently taking place in the world; our cities are unlivable, full of criminals, immersed in decay and dominated by minorities of deviant people.

This is the third indisputable element that should not be overlooked: the pandemic was planned as an instrument for the establishment of a totalitarian regime, conceived by unelected technocrats who are devoid of any sense of democratic representation.

The same thing is happening with the Ukraine crisis: the majority of citizens is absolutely not in favor of sending weapons to Ukraine and imposing sanctions against the Russian Federation, and yet heads of government act as if they have the complete support of their own nations, supported by embarrassing falsifications of reality by the mainstream media. And in certain countries such as Italy, this is taking place in a situation of disturbing complicity by all the powers of the State, both in legitimizing the violation of fundamental rights under the anti-Covid regulations as well as in ratifying participation in a conflict even though there was never any deliberation about entering it by the Italian Parliament, and which even the President of the Republic, the guarantor of the Constitution, approves and encourages, to the applause of European technocrats. In this case too, those who govern are neither obeying the will of the people not pursuing the common good, but rather following orders handed down to them from supranational entities with their own interests, which we know are subversive.

When they speak of “transformation of goods into services,” of “sharing economy” through the digital sector, they intend to expropriate private property from citizens: “You will own nothing and you will be happy.” And when they impose the privatization of state goods or services, they want to appropriate the profits while leaving the costs on the shoulders of the community. But since not all countries are willing to do this “reset,” they are forcing them to accept it by provoking economic crises, pandemics, and wars. This is high treason and subversion.

The premeditated nature of this subversion is blatantly clear, as is the awareness of the disastrous consequences of the social, economic, and health decisions that have been made both with regard to the pandemic as well as the Ukraine crisis. Bergoglio has also admitted it: a head of state revealed to him, months before Putin’s military operation in Ukraine, that NATO and the European Union are deliberately provoking the Russian Federation, after having ignored for years the ethnic cleansing carried out by Kiev against the Russian-speaking minority in Donbass and the Crimea. The purpose of this provocation was to spark a conflict that would provide a cover to legitimize imposing sanctions against the Russian Federation and force Western nations to undertake the “green transition.” And at the same time, it would prostrate the economy of nations to the advantage of a few international investment funds and market speculation. In essence, the same premises are given that were made to justify the Enclosure Acts in England1 and later the Holodomor in Ukraine2 in order to transform the peasant masses into low-cost labor for the industrialization of the large cities. If war was to be avoided, NATO should not have been enlarged in violation of the treaties, and protection should have been assured for the Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine, as called for by the 2014 Minsk Protocol.

If this has not been done, it is because the real purpose that they have wanted to achieve has nothing to do with the apparent purpose they have publicly declared. And I note that these are not abstract speculations but concrete facts that were anticipated and planned decades ago by Great Reset theorists, with the aim of forcing a social change that nobody wants, making the economy and finance of the Western world start over from scratch – just like one restarts a computer.

The fact that this causes misery, bankruptcy, the failure of businesses, unemployment, social instability, and the widening of the gap between the rich and poor, the decline of the birth rate and the reduction of essential services is considered a negligible detail, with the sole concern of indoctrinating the masses with false arguments in favor of war or the control of every detail of people’s lives, criminalizing whoever dissents and pointing to

1 Beginning in the 17th century, the Enclosure Acts abolished the open field system of agriculture in England and enabled the government to take over the land for the purposes of efficiency and profitability.


2 The man-made famine of 1932-33 by which Stalin’s Soviet Union killed millions of Ukrainians.

them as the enemy of the people. It seems to me that this narrative is sinking under the weight of the lies of the elite and its accomplices.

Could you give us an example, Your Excellency?

The most obvious example is discovering that Richard Kalergi, one of the founding fathers of the European Union, wanted to pursue social engineering policies aimed at modifying European national societies through immigration and cross breeding, driving migration waves with the attractiveness of cheaper labor costs. Seeing the wicked obstinacy with which the waves of illegal immigrants continue to be welcomed, even when the impact that this phenomenon has on the safety of cities and on the general crime rate and the identity of national populations is obvious, demonstrates that the initial plan has been realized for the most part, and that action must be taken to prevent it from being completed.

And yet these are not things that are happening by chance: they have told us so.

You are absolutely right: what baffles me is noting with what impudence the proponents of the Agenda 2030 have told us well in advance which criminal projects they intended to impose on us against our will; despite this evidence, there are those who amazed that after years of unstoppable infiltration they are actually realizing their plans right in front of our eyes even as they accuse us of being “conspiracy theorists.” There is definitely a conspiracy, but the ones who must be put on trial are the ones who have carried it out, not those who denounce it.

Joe Biden lays responsibility for the crisis at the feet of Vladimir Putin. Do you agree with this judgment?

Americans are well aware that the price of gasoline had risen well before the Russian-Ukrainian crisis, and further increased due to sanctions – real or alleged – of the international community against the Russian Federation. Today we know that sanctions – as was foreseeable – have not affected Putin in the least, but the motive behind them is that they were supposed to strike Western nations, and in particular the nations of Europe, in order to provoke an economic and energy crisis by means of which to legitimize the ecological transition, rations, population control, and the censorship of information.

Putin did not take the bait offered him by the provocations of the deep state, limiting himself to intervening only as necessary to give security and protection to Russian-speaking Donbass. And he stormed the Azovstal steel plant, which hid one of the secret American biolabs that produced bacteriological weapons and carried out experiments with SARS-CoV-2. On the other hand, the Biden family had every interest in a having a war in Ukraine, in order to cover up the corruption cases involving Hunter Biden and to distract people from the impending scandals looming over Obama and Hillary Clinton for Russiagate and over the deep state for the electoral fraud carried out against Trump.

The US proxy war against the Russian invasion is in reality a war of the deep state against a nation that has refused to accept being engulfed by the delusions of globalist technocrats and that today has proofs of the crimes committed by the deep state. But while the EU can blackmail European nations, tying the disbursement of funds and interest rates on loans to the implementation of “reforms” – since these nations have limited monetary and fiscal sovereignty – the same is not true for Russia, which is a sovereign and independent nation, as well as self-sufficient in terms of raw materials, energy, and agricultural food resources.

Is this bipolar vision, which re-proposes the Cold War confrontation between the USA and the USSR, no longer valid?

The hegemonic Left has established a Manichean division between good and evil: left vs. right, liberalism vs. fascism, globalism vs. sovereignism, vaccinism vs. No-vax. The “good guys” are obviously those on the left: liberal but supportive, globalist, inclusive, ecumenical, resilient, and sustainable. The “bad guys” are just as obviously patriots, Christians, right-wingers, sovereignists, and heterosexuals.

What distinguishes the current structure of Western countries from the past?

The fusion of the worst of liberalism with the worst of collective socialism. Today we see, after two years of the pandemic farce, how globalist liberalism has made use of communist and dictatorial methods to impose itself with its Great Reset, and how the communist regimes are using liberal methods to enrich the upper echelons of the party without losing total control over the population. This demonstrates that the geopolitical balance is shifting towards a multi-polar vision and that bipolarism fueled by the deep state is in decline.

Is there any analogy between what is happening in the Catholic Church under the pontificate of Jorge Mario Bergoglio?

The deep church is an offshoot of the deep state, in a certain sense. For this reason it should not surprise us that we are witnessing the demolition of Faith and Morals in the name of ecumenism and synodality, applying liberal errors in the theological sphere; and on the other hand the transformation of the Papacy and the Roman Curia into a politburo in which ecclesiastical authority is both absolute and also released from its fidelity to the Magisterium, following the modalities of the exercise of power in a communist-type dictatorship. The law is no longer founded on Justice but rather on the convenience and utility of those who apply it: it is enough to see how harshly the clergy and faithful who are traditional are treated by the Vatican, and on the other hand with how much indulgence the Vatican praises notorious pro- abortion activists (I am thinking of Biden and Pelosi among the most striking cases) as well as the propagandists of LGBTQ ideology and gender theory. Here too, liberalism and communism have formed an alliance to demolish the institution from within, just as has happened in the civil sphere. But we know that contra legem fit, quod in fraudem legis fit – that which circumvents the law is done against the law.

Your Excellency, how do you think things in the United States can change in the near future?

The eventual return of Donald Trump to the White House would allow for real peace negotiations, once the deep state has been eradicated from the Administration and government agencies. But the reconstruction will certainly require the collaboration and sacrifices of everyone, and a solid spiritual vision that inspires the reconstruction of the social fabric. If all of this has happened through the demonstrated electoral fraud of the last Presidential election, Trump’s victory would be even more striking and would have strong repercussions on the ramifications of the deep state in Europe and in particular in Italy.

In any case, the mid-term elections could allow the Republicans to have a majority in the House and in the Senate, once the servants of the deep state – including first of all the “neo-cons” – have been ousted.

The failure of the effort to blame Trump for the farce of the assault on the Capitol ought to dissuade its organizers – among whom we cannot fail to number Nancy Pelosi – from trying to replicate the scene next fall, which would fall into the grotesque, in addition to being a case of déjà vu.

So has the Great Reset failed? Can we sing a victory song?

A victory song can be sung only when the war has been won. The Great Reset is ontologically destined for failure, because it is inspired by inhuman and diabolical principles. But its end, however inevitable, may still take some time, depending on our capacity to oppose it and also what is contained in the plans of Divine Providence.

If the Lord wants to grant us a truce, a period of peace after we have understood how horrible is the hell on earth that the enemies of God and man desire, then we must commit ourselves to rebuild – not “build back better” but just the opposite – yes, rebuild what has been destroyed: the family, the bond

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

of marriage, the moral education of children, love for our country, dedication to hard work, and fraternal charity, especially towards those who are the most defenseless and needy. We must reaffirm the holiness and untouchable sanctity of life from conception to natural death; defending the complementary nature of the two sexes against the insanity of gender ideology, protecting children from corruption and guaranteeing the innocence to which they are entitled. We must finally set aside the logic of profit – which is typical of the liberal mentality – in order to regain the pride of fulfilling our duty even when no one is watching us, of producing what we make in a professional manner and selling it at an honest price. And we must stop considering ourselves inferior simply because someone has decided that in their godless model of dystopian society being honest, loyal, sincere, and God- fearing is something to be ashamed of. The ones who ought to be ashamed, rather, are those who call for the killing of children and the elderly, the planned extermination of the population through wicked vaccine campaigns, mass sterilization, sodomy, pedophilia, and all the most deviant aberrations.

Your Excellency, do you believe that the world can return to God?

The world can and must return to God: this is a necessity dictated by the divine order that the Creator has imprinted on creation. It must return to God, because only where Christ reigns can there by true justice and true peace. And the world can do this, but not in a collectivist or communitarian vision in which individuals disappear into the mass, but rather in a personal and individual vision, in which each one of us freely recognizes that nothing can be better than what Our Heavenly Father has prepared for us, since He loves us and wants to make us sharers in His glory.

If we all return to God, our Nations will also recognize His Lordship and will conform their laws to His Law. Let us pray therefore that what the Psalmist sings may be realized: Laudate Dominum omnes gentes; laudate eum omnes populi (Ps 116:1) – Praise the Lord, all you nations, praise him all you peoples. Quoniam confirmata est super nos misericordia ejus; et veritas Domini manet in æternum (Ps 116:2) – For his Mercy is confirmed upon us, and the Truth of the Lord remains forever.

21 June 2022

Saint Aloysius Gonzaga

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Warning: coming many Americans, many people will die because of these COVID injections, many healthy children WILL die due to these shots; FDA, CDC, NIH, Moderna, & Pfizer secretly told me this

I was told in discussions with FDA, CDC, NIH, Moderna, & Pfizer officials in Washington at HHS July/August 2020, their grave concerns, why they must be silent as in fear for safety and careers; Toby!!

Dr. Paul Alexander

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They said, follow the $CIENCE. Fauci said he is the $CIENCE.

I have been trying to warn. I have written on this here in stack. I try again.

Everything you have been told by government, by CDC, by NIH, by Fauci, by Birx, by Bourla, by Pfizer, by all your government officials, were lies, distortions, exaggerations, meant to mislead you. All pure lies on everything about lockdowns and these failed COVID gene injections. All, every single part was a lie. A deception. This entire COVID pandemic, was a lie! Yes, we had an emergency, but everything done to us the last over 2 years was a fraud hoax, a lie. Every single COVID policy failed. Canada, US, UK, everywhere.

The entire lockdown lunacy failed! All school closures failed, just killed children. Everything was a lie! They knew it would never work but knew one thing, that you as people, as the population, crazily thought, that they as health officials and medical doctors, wanted to do good by them and they could ‘trust’ you. You would do them no harm.

Little did they know. Little did we know the corruptible malfeasants we were dealing with. I include many medical doctors in this.

Trump was right when he early on said it was hoax. He did not mean the virus was a fraud or hoax. He meant the repose. The response was, and he saw what the deepstate and media, and CDC and NIH and Fauci and Birx were doing to him. But he could not stop them. He could, he could have, but he was weak. He then did the unthinkable. He allowed Fauci and Birx to lead a crazy lockdown lunatic policy that harmed and killed thousands of Americans. None of it worked! Not one!

You will come to learn, that 2.5 years of your life was taken away, for a lie! A greed, power drunk lie! By sick malfeasant people. Their motives. That must all be investigated and if it is shown they did this deliberately and caused deaths, we jail them all! Yes, 2.5 years lost to these malfeasants. The COVID injection is a failed ineffective dangerous injection.

I am no anti-vaxxer, but I am against these injections.

I was told by these officials (FDA, CDC, NIH, Moderna, & Pfizer), in confidential secret discussions, that in about 6 to 6.5 years from roll-out, in those who take the injections, they feared mass auto-immune disease and deaths, they feared viral immune escape and very problematic variants, and they anticipated constant deaths from the injections but a major number of deaths to emerge. I could not even understand exactly what they did for it was so haphazard, but these were officials. And they wanted to talk to me. To tell me ‘their truths’.

They said based on all they knew, that the COVID injections could never work, especially the mRNA platform. It never worked in the animal model and was pathological. They told me that in about 6 to 6.5 years, there will be a surge in deaths in persons who take the injections (then about 1 year ago). This was their projection. They advised me they nor their families will never (especially their children) take any of the COVID injections.

The key is the injection works for some people and I argue we do not know how long and what the effects are and this is what I was told. But you understand that too. You cannot take a 15 year process and boil it down to a few months and declare it is safe. They were never safety tested to exclude harms and deaths longer term. We do not know exactly what is coming. But it certainly does not work for a whole bunch of people. Look around, you know people who have been harmed by these injections and died. Do you not? Something is very wrong with these injections. Very wrong and they just will not stop.

I am being open with you to inform you. I am sick and tired, years now, of the lies and fraud and disaster put out by the media, the alphabet health agencies etc. You trusted your public health officials, you think ‘they care about you’, well, they never cared about you, your family, or the truth. It is to them about the $CIENCE.

I think I shared prior that my office was on the 6th floor of the HHS building in DC, Operation warp speed and Moderna were stationed on the 7th floor. FDA, CDC etc. have sub-satellite offices at HHS. At least when I was there and Hahn, Redfield etc. came there daily after congress or White House to see their staff, various persons, persons in various offices.

These people I talked with, came to me out of anger and fear too, they knew who I was and wanted to tell me their stories and how worried they were for the population, and fearful for their lives and own careers as to the COVID injections (and other issues). If they spoke out openly so had to talk secretly.

They were very very dismayed and angered and worried as to why the agencies they worked for e.g. FDA and NIH and CDC etc. and the pharmaceuticals were not properly regulating and conducting the proper safety studies, proper durations of follow-up. They felt the COVID injection program was a pure disaster and should be stopped back then. This is 6 months or so before roll-out. They felt no healthy children should ever be given the very injections they were working on. They were that concerned.

I want to be clear again, based on all I know today, based on what I was told, many many children will die due to these injections. Healthy children will die, not ‘if’, but ‘will die. Healthy children, healthy people, normal people never needed and do not need these injections. I have told you before that (strong research and scholarship by Geert) we will be in a pandemic for 100 years if we continue these injections. It is the COVID injection itself that is driving the variants and these CDC, NIH, Moderna, and Pfizer officials are malfeasants IMO who are continuing this. There is no sound justification. These malfeasants know that they are vaccinating with the Wuhan strain (legacy strain) that has been gone many months now and omicron dominates. The vaccinal antibodies are to the original Wuhan strain and will not hit the omicron spike antigen (original antigenic sin (OAS)).

It is the COVID injection (and consequent non-neutralizing antibodies pressuring the spike antigen) that is causing the vaccinated to become infected, hospitalized, and die. The data is clear. Massive antibody-dependent enhancement, some refer to this as antibody mediated viral enhancement. Some pathogenic priming. All IMO the very same. The recall antibodies are to something that does not exist today. The key is to reduce viral pressure, infectious pressure on the population, so that the sub-optimal injections have less virus to put under pressure. We have effective chemoprophylaxis, we can do this. We have early treatment. This can worked effectively and this can thus help reduce viral transmission. At the same time, the best step is to stop these filed injections.

I want all of these people investigated in proper public and legal inquiries, and if it is shown they did wrong, in proper inquiries, I want them arrested. I want all who made policy decisions that costed lives, to be jailed! All their monies taken!

Dr. Rogers looked at the FDA June 28th meeting and his takeaway is bang on and what we have been saying here for near a year now here:

‘‘Yesterday, the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee approved a bivalent Covid-19 shot with the Wuhan strain and the Omicron variant.

The vote was:

19 yes.

2 no.

A few thoughts:

The Wuhan strain is no longer in circulation. So they are vaccinating against a strain that no longer exists.

The Omicron variant that they are going to put into this shot is Omicron BA.4/BA.5:

1. By the time it gets to market in the fall, Omicron BA.4/BA.5 will likely no longer be in circulation.

2. There is no efficacy data whatsoever on vaccines against Omicron BA.4/5.

3. There is no safety data whatsoever on vaccines against Omicron BA.4/5.

4. They do not intend to gather any efficacy or safety data between now and when these shots will be released in the fall:

At the meeting, the manufacturers (Moderna, Pfizer, and Novavax) were asked what their production timelines are… and they said out loud, “So long as we don’t have to provide any clinical data, we’ll have them ready by fall.”

Dr. Rogers is a smart guy.

Dr. Paul Alexander

I am a COVID-19 Consultant Researcher in EBM, Research Methodology, and Clinical Epidemiology and I informally provide support to some members of the US Congress and Senate.

Toby Rogers, Ph.D.

Toby Rogers has a Ph.D. in political economy from the University of Sydney in Australia. His doctoral thesis, “The Political Economy of Autism,” explores the regulatory history of five classes of toxicants that increase autism risk. Rogers shows that the public health problem of autism actually starts with the political economy problem of regulatory capture. He also has a Master of Public Policy degree from the University of California, Berkeley, where he was a researcher for former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich. Rogers now does grassroots political organizing with medical freedom groups across the country working to stop the autism epidemic.

Pbr
Jun 30
I readily admit to skimming and reading with intention the above article. My personal problem is the Catholic Church. It was a clique, a club, of moneyed people. It was never for the poor, disenfranchised, the vulnerable. The priest were paid far more money then many of the parishoners. They drove the nice cars, lots of people were using second hand cars. When times got hard (1970s) people out of work, prices high, the church didn’t build a community looking out for one another but rather a club of wealthy donors, and people in power. They wanted their money before mortgages, grocery shopping, clothes for the kids. My list of mistreatment and of others is nothing short of astounding. It gets worse, some of the people, kids I went to school with were sexually abused, not just middle class kids, but kids in very wealthy families as well. The church moves around these pedophiles around, passes them from church to parish to the next state, or country. The response from the church has been God will handle it. Well God gave us people, scientists, psychologist who told them of the damage done. Washing someone’s feet as a form of contrition doesn’t cut it. I have a BIG issue with the church, while this person seems like a person who might be trusted, but I want to see transparency, jail time and open books because right now, the ‘’Catholic “ religion is nothing more than a scam to get peoples money.


Deborah Butler
Writes HastheWorldGoneMAD? Newsletter
Jul 1
Anne, there is nothing to be frightened about, that's EXACTLY their goal. When in fear you are easily manipulated. Hang in there. God is reaching out to the warriors that will fight the good fight, unfortunately we lost one yesterday, Dr. Zelenko. God must have had other intentions for him.

August
Jun 30
You are wrong to paint the entirety of Catholicism, and thereby all Catholics, with a broad stroke. You risk lowering yourself to the level of those you condemn. I am sorry for your pain.


Rose
Jun 30
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edited Jul 1
No. Actually Pbr is right - save a few rare oddities like this Archbishop. The ring of protected pedophelia was significant - and still many going before courts after their entire lives have been ruined due to selfish, self centred priests; too many lives ruined. I grew up in a very poor area - the church would not help us....... all our families were hammered to tithe, even though we often had nothing for dinner. If you have wealth, you're "in", if not, just handy to be used and breed more, so there's more to put in the money pouch at Mass. Truely, deeply sickening.

I knew there was something deeply askew, when this "pope" insisted from the outset to go and get vaccinated! I was horrified, knowing it would maime people, and at the same time thought "the more things change, the more they stay the same". Why should I have been surprised?

But God is good and a wonderful spiritual comfort is found when one is committed to communicating with our higher power.

We are currently wading through a cesspool of E V I L, such as none of us could have ever conjured; but there IS power in faith and God is listening for your prayers.


Pbr
Jun 30
Actually, I have tried different Catholic Churches in the state I was previously in. Husband has also had the same experiences. The church has a history of abuse, not just here but in many countries. Your perception that I am lowering myself by calling out the church only reinforces the bad, horrible abuse. Because you went to the “right” church and nothing happened to you therefore it doesn’t happen in a lot of churches is insulting to say the least. I am not lowering myself, I am standing up, speaking out, rejecting a religion that is more interested in money and power than helping communities at large. Saying what I could not do as a child.

EC
Jul 1
As a targeted individual subjected to horrifying torture and abuses I sought out help from dozens of churches — Catholic, Unitarian, Baptist Lutheran, Christian Evangelical — it did not matter. Not a single church leader knew anything of transhumanism. Several were directly in cahoots with deep state. Not a single one had any actual programs of support in place. Most gave lipservice to being Christian. Jesus’s love was active. The churches are just another corrupt compromised institution.


Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jun 30
Wow. Dr. Malone is now presenting Archbishop Vigano. Good job.

Here is a series everyone should watch. You may not agree with everything. But, it will open your eyes. I only watched the first 10 parts. Some of it is hard to take. https://therealtruthnetworkcom.wordpress...the-cabal/

This presents a lot of speculation... granted. But sometimes speculation can help us see.

One thing this series has made me understand is the presence of evil in our world today. Evil is an ontological reality.

I recommend this series with some hesitation. But, I'll say this: before this series, I believed everything the media told me about Trump: he was a jerk, a hater, incompetent, stupid, and would ruin America. I believed that. After the series, I began to see things I never saw before, and consider things I never considered before. Everything I'd read about the JFK assassination, for example, started to make sense. And this made sense to me, too: others have seen this since JFK and before, and they're fighting back. We are part of that fight.

The JFK assassination is something of a Rosetta Stone to what the Deep State really is and how it operates. These people didn't just retire to the Bahamas afterwards.

And with Covid, we can see: there is indeed evil in this world. Why are they doing this? Why are they promoting the pseudoscience of CO2 warming, and why are they telling us that this theory is beyond dispute despite that the climate is amazingly complex? It's about control. Controlling with fear.

It's time to wake up. We, the people.

Mona Mistric
Writes The Story of the Fig Tree
Jun 30
Are you sure you want Trump back in the presidency? He spent $6 Trillion during his one four-year term (compared to Obama who spent $4 T in 8 years), bragged about being instrumental in creating the vaccine, and followed Fauci like a lost puppy.


K Kreitz
Jun 30
I was in agreement with much of this discussion until he offered the cure to be a re-election of Trump. He was a bad businessman, bad President, and terrible human being. He would like nothing better than to be sitting in the front row at Davos as an accepted member of the elite. I do not have an answer as to who would be a good President right now or which party is better for us because there are no good choices. But I can say Trump ain’t it.


Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jul 1
I'd suggest that the well has been poisoned with Trump. That is, relentless media coverage of him as evil, stupid, incompetent, you name it. A liar, etc., etc. All of this 'coverage' was deliberate. I fell for it. I recall one NPR commentary where one commentator must have called Trump a liar ten times. Is that appropriate for a public radio network regarding a sitting president?

Regarding Fauci, Trump didn't know what he was up against. He was mislead by Birx and Fauci. I recall one press conference in particular when he entered with Birx, who sat to his right. Then he talked about things like ultraviolet light and disinfectants for Covid, and each time he turned to his right and asked, 'isn't that right'? So, he'd been briefed, and the next thing we hear is: 'Trump said to drink bleach.' Almost like it was a set-up. Did Birx ever stand up for him or have his back? No.

I believe Trump is a good man. Either he was in over his head, or he had to play along to some extent, or he was surrounded by traitors he thought were people he could trust. Or, all of the above.

K Kreitz
Jul 1
What you say is true to an extent. There was/is a strong anti Trump element in the media, and there is a strong pro Trump element albeit smaller. Whether he was set up or not is open to opinion, however when anyone spews the vitriol that he has from the largest bully pulpit in the world they are going to create enemies and “poison the well” themselves. This is simply not what a “real” leader does and actions have consequences.

As for being a good man, I can say unequivocally he is not. I’ve known of Trump long before he became President. Why is he so disliked in his home town of NYC? Not because he was personable and wealthy, it was because he was a narcissistic “bad” businessman and human being. There are 1,000’s of court cases and valid first hand accounts (some from people I personally know) of instances that prove this point. There are only a few that could be interpreted to show him as a good person, and they usually lead back to a hidden reason/agenda that benefits him. And yes, he was way in over his head as President. However one cannot excuse, or call someone a leader, when they are not prepared and do not know what they are up against.

Micheal Nash, Ph. D.
Jun 30
The reference to Gates reminds me of a guy in our IT dept who worked for Microsoft early days. Gates would come in and begin by saying "who are we going to kill today?". And he meant just that. He is the walking definition of a sociopath. As I suppose to are all those WEF upperlings.


Gail
Writes Gail’s Newsletter
Jun 30
Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS
At the risk of appearing conspiratorially insane( which I no longer care about), I believe the endgame is Faustian. No pun intended. They are seeking immortality. The mRNA/tech/Pharma transhumanism is a ghoulish double edged sword. Ditto the insane amorphous sexuality. Infertility, depopulation, loveless, godless, soulless, meaningless existence. Ruled by Machiavellian psychopaths


Jean
Jun 30
Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS
Thank you for this very insightful interview. I am truly amazed that the Archbishop’s insights so closely parallel the perspectives we have been entertaining along here along with our worst fears. I admit to being surprised at the identity of the messenger. It leaves me wondering whether all his insights are a result of his own investigations and conclusions or/and divine inspirations.

That said I was relieved and touched by his vision of the possibility things might be returned to the normal I thought I was living in many years ago. It brought tears to my eyes. Would that we survive to be grateful for a return - in his words - to God.

No One Important
Jun 30
I am SO glad that others see what's happening as I do. For a while, I felt like I was the only one seeing this MASSIVE conspiracy against freedom, globally, orchestrated by sinister villains like Klaus Schwab and George Soros. I am pleased to see it in print for ALL to know and be acutely aware of. We must NEVER give up our gun rights! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! Because this has the potential to go kinetic if we are unable to stop them through elections.

T. Paine
Jun 30
I was not aware of Archbishop Vigano and enjoyed his thoughts on our bureaucratic nightmare. Being an Atheist I’m still inclined to support religious teachings of treating others with kindness and respect. I believe the Catholic Church line any hierarchical organization tends to concentrate power and become corrupt. That does not mean all in positions of power are corrupt. The critical issue is Trust and the church as suffered greatly as a result of their lack of transparency. The same lack of Trust is evident in our bureaucrats who depend on a lack of transparency to hide their failures and nefarious intent. Stay Free.

Gail
Writes Gail’s Newsletter
Jul 1
How is it possible to not connect the dots of every global “ catastrophe” that should be obvious as purposeful construct?

Zelenskyy is playing the role of his lifetime and it’s C-listOnce again, Fox misreports the Ukraine/Russia conflict, spreading already debunked Ukrainian propaganda.

Shannon Bream, grinning from ear to ear is lauding Zelenskyy’s defeat of Putin’s Snake Island occupation.

Beaming with pride, she recounted the “ Brave “Ukrainian lives lost to the Russians who’s “ last words to the Russian soldiers were F*ck You”. Except it was fabricated. She continued by cheering for the “ heroic Ghost Of Ukraine” and carrying a torch for the “ incredibly patriotic and selfless soldiers of Mariupol”.

Bream isn’t malicious. She is reporting the script as written. Which makes it all the worse.


Gail
Writes Gail’s Newsletter
Jul 1
There is no greater example of the WEF Great Reset aka Build Back Better aka tyrannical Brave New World “You will own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” than Justin Trudeau.

Hand selected WEF “ Young Global Leaders”, Trudeau and his far more intellectual Second In Command, Chrystia Freeland ( irony),have enacted unspeakable evil into law. Nobody is paying attention. The moment the Trucker Protest was ended by force, all was forgotten. “ The Pattern Of Distraction”.

Trudeau has unilaterally banned gun ownership by decree, enacted hostile set seizure and forfeiture, banned dissent, increased vaccine, mask and lockdown mandates at his whims, legalized abortion on demand without any restrictions and allowed for “state funded euthanasia” of the poor, mentally ill, depressed, handicapped, elderly . This “ kind option” as incentive to those who cannot afford healthcare, housing, repay debt can opt for taxpayer funded death.

And NOBODY is providing coverage! Ditto New Zealand’s Ardern, Australia, Macron’s rigged re-election,Italy,SpainGreece,, Czech Republic,UK Latin America, Ukraine and NATO expansionist creeping tyranny.

But worse than anything imaginable is America’s silence. What the hell is behind the silence? If it’s fear of retaliation, why? A cabal of megalomaniacal elites .. a ruling class of kleptotechnocorporate multinationals and financiers? That sold us out to China and other global enemies? This is how America does. Cowardice.

Of the hundred or more political campaign messages I receive daily, begging for money, harping on nonsensical tripe, only Rand Paul, DeSantis and a few outsiders have even alluded to the WEF, WHO Pandemic Treaty, the incredible corruption within both parties .

Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jul 1
The Nazi program in Germany began with the euthanasia of 'defectives.' https://www.amazon.com/Nazi-Doctors-Medi...0465093396

KW NORTON
Writes KW Norton Borders
Jul 1
Guess my personal patience has come to an end as to the endless handwringing over Covid 19. I’m quite certain exposes will continue to regale us all as we move forward. Do not believe we have anything to gain by continuing to pop the bubble of psychopathic nonsense surrounding this. It is tantamount to living in the Weimar Republic as Nazis rose to power and believing we could change hearts and minds. What we are living through is far more sinister and pervasive than during Weimar. The “good” Germans just retreat further into their protective shells. We are at some point going to need to cut our losses and move on. There will be survivors. Time to figure out together how to facilitate this.


Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jul 1
Have faith in humanity. Many people are waking up.

Today, there is no army to come in from outside to defeat the enemy, like there was during WWII. It's up to us. We are the army, and if we fail, there's no telling how far and how dark this will get.

If they manage to surveil everyone, to where will the survivors escape?

We have to take care of ourselves, yes. We have to find new ways right now, yes. But I don't think they plan on letting people live their lives as they choose, and especially they don't plan on this for our children's children's children.


KW NORTON
Writes KW Norton Borders
Jul 1
You’re 100% correct - we are the protective forces. Sometimes we need to be reminded of the courage of our convictions.


Charles Clemens
Writes Fun Facts & Fables
Jul 1
That was a wonderful interview and the Archbishop expressed the beliefs of most of us who read Dr. Malone's columns.

However, the thought that the Deep State can be eradicated is a fantasy. There are currently between 3,000 and one million Federal employees (per the Internet) and this doesn't include our useless and power-hungry legislators.

If, on the off-chance that President Trump could be re-elected, there are powerful people with vested interests in keeping the Deep State huge and entrenched.


KW NORTON
Writes KW Norton Borders
Jul 1
Sadly it is pretty far gone at this point but there is the fact that some humans may still need to go on and survive once nearly 100% of people on the planet become aware of their realistic situation. Agree no current real political or social solutions but looking.


Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jul 1
There is a huge movement now to turn back the deep state. We know who many of these people are who've been working for the deep state.

We must never believe that we can never succeed. We are the army. We are the ones who must have the courage and who must move forward. We are the ones who must never stop.

When we believe we're defeated is when we lose, just by that fact.

Charles Clemens
Writes Fun Facts & Fables
Jul 1
I hate to be a Negative Ned, but consider the population of Washington, DC. Is it possible to get a fair trial? Is it possible to get people to vote themselves our of a job? President Trump had a great idea when he suggested that some of the Federal Agencies be relocated out of DC. What happened to that idea, anyway?

There are thousands, if not millions, who owe their allegiance and paychecks to our bloated and inefficient government.

It would be wonderful if the size of the bureaucracy would be reduced, but who has the power to do it?

Consider Senator Rick Scott's excellent idea to tax everyone. It wouldn't have to be a punishing income tax, but everyone would have an interest in the government. As it is now, half of all Americans pay no taxes and with the EITC, many get money simply for filling out a tax form.


Xioblack
Jul 1
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Well, I'm floored. A big reason I spent the majority of my life being a 'new agey spiritual liberal' was because I was forced to go to Catholic Church in high school and thought it was all a bunch of patriarchal, antiquated hooey. Not a single thing rang true in my soul, so I ran away. Not just from the Catholic Church but from the Bible and Christianity as a whole. It just wasn't doing it for me as a pathway to experience a spiritual connection to God. In the void, I found new agey spiritual teachings which did work... until all these same people went stark raving mad. Now I'm looking around, at all these self perceived 'spiritually evolved' woke liberals, decieved beyond reason, who are THE problem. Because they are the coal to engine. And who is protected from the mass psychosis(?) . People who study the Bible and are followers of Jesus. The proof is in pudding. I can't deny this. And now, of all sources, a Catholic Archbishop?! What?! Who is this guy??? Literally every single well formulated sentence encompasses truth within the truth. So well articulated. And all encompassing. I don't know what to say. I only know the truth hits you likes water to the dehydrated soul.


Jim Reagen
Writes Jim Reagen's Newsletter
Jul 1
"Now I'm looking around, at all these self perceived 'spiritually evolved' woke liberals, deceived beyond reason, who are THE problem. "

It's very odd that this happens, but I see it every day where I am. The people most awake are the conservative Christians. I suppose it's because they know their own souls, and they know they are real.


Nat
Jul 1
Wow, that was so inspiring, beautifully worded and so on point. I especially like his truthful insight into the Russian- Ukrainian war, so few people see the truth behind this and the real reasons for it. People are quick to blame Russia for absolutely everything, but I’m used to that being a Russian immigrant.

Patty
Writes Patty’s Newsletter
Jul 1
While reading this interview I felt like I was watching our collective autopsy as we still live & breath; horrified, sans means to stop it. But, I take heart in God's Will Be Done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

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