The Expansions Cult

[knmar]

[user=974]iqhunk[/user] wrote:

knmars two cents = 2 diamond cents :)

Thank you, iqhunk. I very much appreciate your comment.

[green plasma]

knmars two cents = 2 diamond cents :)

Iqh.. I was in malaysia back in the early 90's.. and saw an Indian kid singing to some god carving [in a cave, on a tour], in the dark, and he held some kind of glob of wax in his palm which burned like gasoline. Do you know what this stuff is?

[canyoudigit]

that could have been a coconut ? lol I have seen that used like a torch.

It is kinda sad because I find Stew's information to be credible and like none other out there. Ultimately though I think I sought him out and perhaps blindly followed at times not wanting to hear of his dark side because I never received real guidance from my own father. Now I am just trying to decide which techniques may still be good to practice

Anyone else like that? lol oh well, moving on.

[yukesam]

Octahedron,

Don't yell. Don't act like you are completely innocent from this. You played the discrediting  Yukesam game from the start. Everybody can read that, do you understand.

It is your own attitude of playing dumb games with other members got into this situation. I play fair with anyone. Just read what I wrote yesterday in the private forum. And that’s where it stays for now. But I will try my best to clear your name if that is the truth.


[user=1588]yukesam[/user] wrote:

Anyways, Octahedron has been acting suspiciously since the beginning. When I started to call him Alrik. What would you do if somebody called you a name you never heard before? You would've said right a way "who the fu*k is Alrik" but instead he have had been waiting couple days to answer it at all. Well, that by itself is problem. It is his strange personality that gets him the trouble in the first place. That he play games with people who he disagree with. Just because he is long time member here it doesn’t mean he can play games with people.

Anyhow, I just read the thread  Ã¢â‚¬Å“The cult of swerlow” and read what Octahedron had to say about LOL post and it got me thinking that there still is a chance that Octahedron might not be the person who have contacted Janet and he is not the person that I strongly suspected. Because the real Alrik could have just sent Janet the email after he read the LOL post to clear his name. But there are still a murky area needs to be cleared. 1. Like the real Alrik’s email address contains numbers 888 ( Octahedron). 2. Did Janet replied him back and confirmed that the guy was indeed the guy who called Octahedron in HCF saying he wasn’t involved in anti –expansions?? ( or is it just the real Alrik saying to Janet that I am the guy who have a girl friend in Spain and I never was involved in anti-expansions activities and Janet simply assuming that he is the guy in HCF ?? )

The only way to find out is I call Octahedron since I know Alrik’ voice. ( But he could have others to answer it for him too)

I'm just trying to really fair for any people.  

In the process, Janet became the bit*h in the back ally where she belong ^^*.

[user=1588]yukesam[/user] wrote:

So then state what this bit*h saying about you! Why she saying this sh*t about you Ha?[/i]

[Etarnlia]

Overcoming anger and so on is of course something one must process, but it does no good on this thread. Venting can be done on a separate thread or talking on PM´s. Some basic ground rules, or morals or ethics goes a long way.

If people start ranting and venting the fallout is spread on the rest of the message. I´ve seen threads on other forums that were full of great information (about photography and computers), but some started ranting like mad men and the messages were lost in the process.

Except for honey badger, he doesn´t care! LOL

[user=1596]theeden[/user] wrote:

I have to agree with Shibbator. What a colossal waste of time and energy, turning against one another, when we could be sharing not only our experiences with the Swerdlows, but what we learnt along the way, whether from something positive or negative that we experienced with them.

We can turn this into a place of sharing, support, and healing rather than a ranting, attacking battleground. The Swerdlows would learn from us instead of laughing at our folly. And people coming here to research Expansions will respect the members' experiences/learnings, something they won't do if they are met with all this verbal sparring.

There can always be a learning and growing, if we allow it. We need to feel safe sharing experiences/feelings without fear of being attacked, or the profound healing that that is imminently possible may just remain an open wound longer than it need be.

Just my two cents.

I think that some people may need to rant as part of the process. If J and S find that amusing then shame on them. I personally do not thnk they are laughing.

If people who post here are still batting for expansions, despite the experiences that they have read here, then what do they expect?

Maybe all of this IS part of the process to begin with.

Even if we have to watch as observers while members hash things out to get to the truth.

 

 

 

[knmar]

[user=1623]green plasma[/user] wrote:

knmars two cents = 2 diamond cents :)

Iqh.. I was in malaysia back in the early 90's.. and saw an Indian kid singing to some god carving [in a cave, on a tour], in the dark, and he held some kind of glob of wax in his palm which burned like gasoline. Do you know what this stuff is?

Green Plasma, I think that's the camphor that Indians use in their Puja. iqhunk, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Dr. Acula]

Anger is a basic human emotion. I am extremely angry at the S's because they hurt someone so close to me. I can understand why others are extremely angry with them as well. They evoke anger out of people. What does that say about them? What does that say about the type of people they are? Feelings of anger get evoked when someone feels someone else has done them a disservice. People here are angry at the S's because they have most likely been done dirty by them.

It is also difficult to act rationally when you are angry because the first thing you want to do is react. Reacting while angry leads to situations that we have here presently on this site.

We should really work on redirecting that anger towards the S's. For they are the ones who have evoked it.

[knmar]

Well said, Dr. Akula!

[yukesam]

There are some people in advanced forum saying it is all they “ Stewart and Janet” is want. Divide and conquer.

Really?? So how many people here think that Janet is really laughing NOW.

I do believe I got little bit angry at certain member but just look and read what this guys saying on me.

Nothing is ever new or important for him. And he says that all the time! I worked with that scumBACKS multi million dollar project for almost a year and posted numerous Stewart’s handwritten consults memos and the pictures you ever seen before. But just read what he says. It’s nothing new. Is this normal reaction from somebody who’s been a member that long?

And when Janet herself confirmed in her website that the guy from Netherlands cleared his name from anti-expansions and it was the guy I ,yukesam, contacted him for Exapansions camp then I supposed to shut up any ways. Octahedron had numerous chance to step back and watch the show. But he just can’t stand and saying “Yes, I also prefer the facts; but it seems guys like yukesam don't see any difference between "preferring facts" and "defending Expansions".

So I shouldn’t feel offended by this and just go on my business? Just read his comments in this thread. And you judge if he is defending Expansions or not. Please the word defending covers a lot of areas too. And Octahedron and some members are very dedicated to promote KBA and KB programs ( Stewart’s the most important public deception). And Why?

But I am the one who heard from Stewart himself all about it and posted the emails for everybody. And I firmly believe it’s BS, pure and simple. And simply doesn’t make any sense to me and it’s the perfect misinfo which can fool a lot of people.  There are full of aliens and extraterrestrials activities everywhere in this Universe not just Kuiper belt. Specially for these days.

[Rod]

Perhaps members should head over to this thread http://hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic.php...443#p60443

As posted on there, Astrojewels had something very cool to say :)

"Can I just add and say- manipulation is the greatest defense that programming has, everyone has experienced manipulation, even in a store and you buy stuff cause the packing looks good, understanding energy requires you use your physical senses and the ones that you were not taught at school, by your parents or peers. You enter energy and you become it, so of course they (the SS’s) are going to create energy for everyone to be suspicious of one another, because the energy is already there in that thread, and it is easy to bend energy once it is established. I could do it in a second and have that thread in turmoil, and I am not floating my own boat! Just asking you to take a step back and FEEL the energy. ".

So people may be suspicious of one another, i wonder if there is a way to get around that... :/