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The Expansions Cult
Truth Wrote:ok guys reading it all again.
..have at it

[user=1651]Truth[/user] wrote:
Quote:Okay guys I am new to this whole feud and read some other posts referring to this subject and did not understand all this hate floating around here. I did not realize there was all this animosity.

Well I stayed up just about all night reading this thread from top to bottom. (I slept right through my alarm clock and missed work but thats a whole other story)

I am going to read it again to make sure I understand all this.... its a whole lot to digest at once and there are a lot of hateful words in here that make me feel weird and unsettled.

Ill post soon my feelings and ideas about this whole thing when i read it through a 2nd time. ok guys reading it all again.

Please do.:)

Richard Wrote:Wow, I didn't know the webmaster left. I knew he was on the fence wondering about things. I'm glad to hear he woke up. I wonder he the next person the swindlows will con to do their website.
They gave him an ultimatum for something and he decided to leave them. They basically forced his hand here. Now they are left with incompetent people with no technical or business skills. Because of that they will easily go belly up because they always waste their time ranting on their site instead of doing actual work.

shibbator Wrote:They gave him an ultimatum for something and he decided to leave them. They basically forced his hand here. Now they are left with incompetent people with no technical or business skills. Because of that they will easily go belly up because they always waste their time ranting on their site instead of doing actual work.
Are you in contact with the webmaster? If so you should tell him to drop by here and tell his story.

I agree about their website, they never did have anything of value on it. It's just full of useless crap and stewpid always saying if you want the good stuff you'll have to pay big bucks for it at the seminar's.

I heard about it from another source, not directly. This happened quite recently. Do not have his email so I have few means to get in touch with him. However I could bet that he knows about this thread, perhaps he will do it on his own accord.

That would be cool if he would stop by. I can imagine he has a lot of interesting stories to tell. I'll have to see if I can get a hold of him. :)

Truth Wrote:Okay guys I am new to this whole feud and read some other posts referring to this subject and did not understand all this hate floating around here.
Quote:there are a lot of hateful words in here that make me feel weird and unsettled.

Ill post soon my feelings and ideas about this whole thing when i read it through a 2nd time. ok guys reading it all again.
I think we know what you are going to say but before you say anything how about some introduction of yourself. e.g., Do you have any personal experiences with expansions, Stewart or Janet? Are you a current client or reader of expansions?? The more we know about yourself the more your feelings and ideas would be appreciated here.

You don't think I say this out of hate do you? 
" It is your own ego that is feeding the expansions secret government project. "

OK guys I have been reading all these posts and digesting all of it.

I have to say theres a lot of negativity in this post.......... i wana know the true victims here but i cant 100% tell who they are because justice should come for them but i think law is a better form of justice. if anyone got hurt they should definitely go seek justice with the law. but who is the victim? i cant see them in this thread, or they have disappeared? they should go ask a refund if they are ripped off or if they were hurt physicaly should go talk to police. its good to speak out too like this. but if anyone got hurt it is a law issue then, am i wrong guys?

I have no right to preach to anyone because I'm nobody special. I dont have anything great about me. I wish I did, and thats why i wanna learn some more about myself on this forum and through anything i can get my hands on on the internet since i cant afford much. but all i can say is that this entire post scares me very deeply that people can say such mean things about other peoples families and kids and teasing them and the way they talk and more personal things like that, it seems to just be distracting from the main points of te true wrongdoings thats being siad.

now dont get me wrong. i believe every business has the right to be criticized. every person has the right to be critiqued. but i will say guys. the words you're using here are very cruel hearted and painful to see.

i am a bit of a loner out there in the world. i go to work, i bust my butt, come home, and hope for a better life for myself. whenever i try to make a friend, and share a lil bit of myself and what i know, the words people say to me...... well they hurt as much as the words im seeing you guys use on this thread here. so maybe im projecting too much of my own issues on here. thers a big chance of that. i just really dont like seeing people geting made fun of and their families being made fun of and not sticking to a point to find a solution and make things right, am i wrong??? we dont want to hurt anyone, we just want solution, right?

tmy whole life, people called me names, made fun of me, and made me out to be a dangerous guy even though i just stay to myself and dont cause any trouble. i just ignored them and stuck to my own self but it hurt me deeply. i hope that im not a bad guy. i hope that maybe they just misunderstand me. because i genuinely just want the best for everyone, although i dont really know what i can offer.. so i want to give anyone that same chance. if they did not make fun of me, or hurt me physicaly, then i think i can give anyone a chance to be my friend. if they wana rip me off, ok, i think i will go get my money back as soon as i try that service they are giving me if it does not work.

sorry for the speech guys. i gues my main point is i think if you guys are the true victims here you should not be using such foul language and hurtful insults. thats just how i was brought up i guess sorry if i come across too bold. i just wanna say my feelings honestly here, hope you guys understand.

I will quote my Mama, god rest her soul, with a few words she gave me when i was younger. maybe you guys can see where im coming from a bit. She is better with words than me so hope you understand.


"First, to know someone, know them first hand.
For hearsay be the refuge of treachery and tyrants plans.

To know someones business, break bread and bridge beliefs.
For generosity with ones food shows generosity of ones fortitude.

To know someones family, find the fairness of their faith.
For ones relationship with life beyond life speaks of the truth they strive to leave behind.

To know someones heart, heal yours and hurt none.
For those with hatred in theirs cannot understand the pains of another."


OK guys. sorry to bring my personal self into it and bore you. i just feel sad seeing this post. i want you guys to know my true heart. if anyone got hurt hopefuly they can get the solution they want. but i think hurting anyone, even with words, will just bring us lower.

I don't think you understand that Expansions never does refunds.

There isn't a way to prosecute them - don't you know that. The objective is to expose expansions,.. and any hate you see proves what a disappointing response their work creates.

And your theory on descending lower via upsetting words/comments is just karmic theory.

What I do know is, you've [color="#aa0000"]given an opinion without ever being involved with Expansions[/color], so it matters even less

Sorry to hear about your experiences. And as you say there is a bundle of anger and even hate, but there is a combination of venting, make fun of and rant which is also helpful. A lot of people here are rightfully angry at Expansions, and seeing that other people can talk freely about it without censorship is helpful.

Some of the people that have been back-stabbed really bad have been people with a business and reputation to correct. Going public and acknowledge relations with Expansions is not popular at all. It is a cult, except it works a little different than the classic cult. The same principals exist to grab your money and fill your head with half-truths.

Yukesam got back-stabbed really bad, and used a lot of money, he has been truthful and outspoken. His business will not suffer due to him living in another country for the most part, but those with US businesses will have a more difficult time. Especially if you are into alternative healing etc.

It would be difficult for myself to admit relations with Expansions because they look like a nut-job cult to those that do not believe in aliens etc. Nobody in my family, friends I grew up with or co-workers know anything about my relations to them, and I would like it to stay that way.



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