The true story about Mark Phillips

[William]

Wow, cool , good info.!  :)

[William]

I love to cook and love to watch the cooking shows.....  I have been wondering why there are so many cooking shows on  now and it so popular.....guess we are being used thru cooking somehow?

[Sily]

Well.....  ;) ...... I like to *think* I'm not being used by anyone, but when it's all said and done and I'm not here on earth anymore... I hope to find out what the heck did and IS really go onicon_doh

...guess we are being used thru cooking somehow?

[Astrojewels]

I agree that there is an increase in these types of shows. Everything in life is about a pattern of some sort, my theory on the cooking- so many people are struggling with obesity. The mind-pattern is people are taking in more than they are releasing, the world is going that little faster and most people want, want want - So they get, get get!

They are absorbing the artificial world that we are currently in, food is full of synthetic additives, and children have such great choices now when choosing a sweet treat, a toy, clothes or their own dinner. Mums seem too busy to make a cut lunch and give them money, what is a child going to choose? A hot dog or a salad sandwich? We ate what was on the table or starved, we were never given choice.

Mums are busy so the child is stuck all day on computer games eating snacks, their just seems no limits with children, parents set no standard. So the cooking shows are a reflection of the mind-pattern of the population to ‘taking in’ and they also subliminally make you hungry and think about food, how many people actually go and cook up those recipes from the TV? They would rather just go down and get a big Mac.  

It is all about choice, and currently we have too many. But in a world of consumers how do we take it away?

  

[Sily]

Sily[/color]][color="black"][size="2"]I think it's hard to try and figure out what is really going on.

Last night on the Food Network they had Nigella Lawson's Chefography.  She has a very interesting background and family, but on the show last night they said she was recruited  to join Britian's version of the CIA -- (M15, [/size][/color][color="black"][size="2"]MI6[/size][/color][color="black"][size="2"]?), but declined.   I don't know, just seeing the show last night made me think maybe she is a spy and did take the job.   It's so hard to tell who's  in and who's out, you know?  Who is a handler, who is a sex slave, who is programmed to the hilt. So many layers of information and dis-information.  [color="blue"]Well, anyway... it's been said Julia Child worked for the Office of Strategic Services (the forerunner of the CIA).[/color][/size][/color]

It's all over the news today about Julia Childs... hehe.... linky stinky



Documents: Julia Child part of WWII era spy ring By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and RANDY HERSCHAFT – 20 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Famed chef Julia Child shared a secret with Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg and Chicago White Sox catcher Moe Berg at a time when the Nazis threatened the world. They served in an international spy ring managed by the Office of Strategic Services, an early version of the CIA created in World War II by President Franklin Roosevelt.
The secret comes out Thursday, all of the names and previously classified files identifying nearly 24,000 spies who formed the first centralized intelligence effort by the United States. The National Archives, which this week released a list of the names found in the records, will make available for the first time all 750,000 pages identifying the vast spy network of military and civilian operatives.
They were soldiers, actors, historians, lawyers, athletes, professors, reporters. But for several years during World War II, they were known simply as the OSS. They studied military plans, created propaganda, infiltrated enemy ranks and stirred resistance among foreign troops.
Among the more than 35,000 OSS personnel files are applications, commendations and handwritten notes identifying young recruits who, like Child, Goldberg and Berg, earned greater acclaim in other fields — Arthur Schlesinger Jr., a historian and special assistant to President Kennedy; Sterling Hayden, a film and television actor whose work included a role in "The Godfather"; and Thomas Braden, an author whose "Eight Is Enough" book inspired the 1970s television series.
Other notables identified in the files include John Hemingway, son of author Ernest Hemingway; Quentin and Kermit Roosevelt, sons of President Theodore Roosevelt, and Miles Copeland, father of Stewart Copeland, drummer for the band The Police.
The release of the OSS personnel files uncloaks one of the last secrets from the short-lived wartime intelligence agency, which for the most part later was folded into the CIA after President Truman disbanded it in 1945.
"I think it's terrific," said Elizabeth McIntosh, 93, a former OSS agent now living in Woodbridge, Va. "They've finally, after all these years, they've gotten the names out. All of these people had been told never to mention they were with the OSS."
The CIA had resisted releasing OSS records for decades. But former CIA Director William Casey, himself an OSS veteran, cleared the way for transfer of millions of OSS documents to the National Archives when he took over the agency in 1981. The personnel files are the latest to be made public.
Information about OSS involvement was so guarded that relatives often couldn't confirm a family member's work with the group.
Walter Mess, who handled covert OSS operations in Poland and North Africa, said he kept quiet for more than 50 years, only recently telling his wife of 62 years about his OSS activity.
"I was told to keep my mouth shut," said Mess, now 93 and living in Falls Church, Va.
The files will offer new information even for those most familiar with the agency. Charles Pinck, president of the OSS Society created by former OSS agents and their relatives, said the nearly 24,000 employees included in the archives far exceeds previous estimates of 13,000.
The newly released documents will clarify these and other issues, said William Cunliffe, an archivist who has worked extensively with the OSS records at the National Archives.
"We're saying the OSS was a lot bigger than they were saying," Cunliffe said.
On the Net:

• CIA OSS page: http://tinyurl.com/6bvmhf
• Index to National Archives OSS personnel files: http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/

[Polly]

Sily, I saw this in my local paper today because Julia's alma mater is nearby but I recall reading this about her before, maybe a year or two ago.  Maybe I saw a TV show about her. Yes, I think that is it.  Your original post was March of 2007.  They are giving these people the opportunity to tell their secrets.  It's like being debriefed; a long carried weight lifted before they pass out of this life.  Their secrets no longer matter in the scheme of present things.

 

[Sily]

I think it stinks a little bit Polly.

24,000 names to be made public.  I think it's a violation of their privacy if they didn't agree to have their names released and quite possibly could put some lives in danger.  Some people don't like being tricked and fooled and/or spied on.

Hi! Welcome to the OSS!  You'll work for us and then many years down the road we'll tell everyone you worked for us!  Hope no one you spied on seeks retribution on you or your families!

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...and yeah it's a violation of privacy to be spied on also. 

[Polly]

Ohh.  Hmm.  I didn't see it that way but I see your viewpoint, Sily.  My impression from the article was that the people interviewed were glad their names were being revealed.  Didn't mainstream people take pride in the notion that they were serving their country, right or wrong?  I'm trying to see it from their viewpoint.  That generation before the baby boomers has a different mindset, which is to be expected.

Anyway, I know what you are saying.

[Octahedron]

Polly[/color]]Ohh.  Hmm.  I didn't see it that way but I see your viewpoint, Sily.  My impression from the article was that the people interviewed were glad their names were being revealed.  Didn't mainstream people take pride in the notion that they were serving their country, right or wrong?  I'm trying to see it from their viewpoint.  That generation before the baby boomers has a different mindset, which is to be expected.

Anyway, I know what you are saying.

Interesting. We had the same here, famous people being proud to be revealed in public working for the CIA in the past, esp. in the Cold War.

There is an agenda with it.

i.e.

- acceptation of all close people spying on you, like in old Eastern Germany.

- It boosts the image of the person mentioned.

- the famous person associated with the CIA gives the impression the CIA has the image of the famous person and is a pretty cool organization for young or snobistic people;

so like, if Ernest Hemmingway was a CIA-connection, people who love Hemmingway likely think the CIA is not as bad as it seems to be as written in the critical papers or on the internet.

[Polly]

I would think it is very easy to recruit people into the CIA, then and now.

As far as spying, people have been spying on each other for ages and ages.  It's nothing new.