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#31
Richard Wrote:This plan may sound good on paper but I can’t see it working in real life. You’re talking about converting millions of people who have their own free will.
.... Well, it was very easy to make 6 billion people believing the Twin Towers were crashed down at 09/11, ordered by man only sitting on a camel in Afghanistan or drinking tea in a cave.

Free will or no free will. CNN will create and push the 2nd coming.
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#32
However, the twin towers could convince quite the numer of people simply because it is not eye-blowing in the supernatural-event way.
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#33
Very good point GB.
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#34
911 is a good example of how the truth eventually gets out. Most people believed it at first because all they had to go on was what the mainstream press was saying. Now 6 years later most people do not believe the official story about 911 because the truth has come out. I believe the same thing would happen with a cloned Jesus. At first most people would probably believe it but as time goes on the truth would come out and people would want to crucify Jesus again.
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#35
Lefty girl said..:  Its also in the new testament that there would be several antichrists along the way. That when its the real thing, I was taught that we would 'just know'. I'm not sure how they can pull that off. My only thought is that if ELF can make us feel awful, then maybe there's a way it can do the opposite... make us feel good. As if we're in the presence of GOD.

I don't think they can pull off that.------------------------------------  My answer to the above.....YES they can.....It feels great....ive felt it......!!!!!!!!!!

  I believe the Shroud was already discoverd as a fake???????????

  They have to destroy christianity because thats the only way to make new Religion.....   The making christ bi is a way to trash christianity if you trash their leader!!!!

  If the plans go like they want them to......Then mass destruction...mass confussion...The christ coming back to say what we should believe and total mass control and the aliens here are our friends etc......unless majority wakes up....... 

  Just some ramblings from a mind gone mad with joy ;)

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#36
I agree William that the ELF can make one feel "good" .I have experienced this myself ,first hand , a few times. The one time that comes foremost to mind is a time when I was questioning a particular "spiritual" path I was on.This "path' was non-denominational and was led by a well known charismatic individual who is actually a programmer.I hadn't been involved too long when I began to have serious doubts. I said a prayer aloud that I be shown a "sign" if this was a correct path for me.Immediately there was a wonderful strong odor of  fresh roses permeating the house in the middle of winter.  I searched everywhere for the possible physical source. Nothing. Intially I was estatic that I had received this "sign". After a couple of days my higher self intervened  and cried "bogus!!! and abandoned that "path".

 

On second thought I'm of the belief that this  experience was my "programming". I would like to know your experiences William ,or anyone else, of ELF feeling "good".

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#37
I really do not know how you could feel good with ELF, the intention of ELF is to take your frequency into a lower state, and this is why it creates you to feel bad in the first place. Those who live in big cities receive the greatest amount of it, ELF is not just manufactured, it is also the energy created by the millions of unhappy citizens in that city.  

When I went to Chicago, I was completely overwhelmed by the unhappiness in that city, I was on the edge of tears every minute and I honestly could not wait to get out, no one smiles or says G’Day, if I spoke to someone they looked at me like I was an alien.

The illuminati/reptilians only hurt us by what we hate, and what makes us uneasy, nasty, aggressive and so forth.

So if you are in a situation where you are being targeted, you must look at where you live, is the ELF targeted at you or your neighborhood, you can overcome it.

maybe you can feel good when you hold the power to not be affected.
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#38
I switched religions a few times in my life and I noticed a sudden moment of "re-born" or immediate etheric change in the environment. Although I did not smell roses, I felt as if the environment was lighter and my energy was peaked for no reason. It could just be the effects of my conscious "plugging in" into another huge section of the collective consciousness. Instead of a jolt, I felt the established, ectacized, and curious feelings of that collective sector and it manifested in my immediate experiences.

My experiences with ELF was not great and was nothing like what you described, Mercy Now. When I was encouraged with underage drinking, first a pinning sound, and then a powerful force temporarily deafened my right ear and then left ear. It was like a wind that went through my skull. I completely lost my balance and felt like fainting. This was during the time I believed in ELF, mind-control, and alcohol opening you up. Ever since I stopped believing in all that, those experiences stopped. However, I still have chronic depression but I know that is from other reasons.
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#39
In doing some serious looking back at the experiences that I considered  ELF causing  me to feel good I now strongly believe was programming.

I agree with Karen about ELF lowering ones frequency.

 
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#40
William Wrote:  I believe the Shroud was already discoverd as a fake???????????

  They have to destroy christianity because thats the only way to make new Religion.....   The making christ bi is a way to trash christianity if you trash their leader!!!! 
The shroud hasn’t been proven a fake. The dating proved it was from the time Jesus died. What hasn’t been proven is that it is Jesus on the shroud.

I agree that you can’t change Christianity into something way different. The people won’t go along with. I just can’t see adding bisexuality and reptilian gods to Christianity. It will be easier to destroy it and start a new religion. One thing that doesn’t make sense is if they want to promote bisexuality, then why do they have laws against gay marriage?
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