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***4242*** · 04-17-2011, 11:57 PM

I've been reading posts and I guess alot of people are mad at the Swerdlows? I'm personally curious as to why. I am not here to defend or attack I'm just trying to understand why so many people would be trying to take them down. Can someone shed some light to me on whats up? Do you feel that there work is false or ?

**Richard** · 04-18-2011, 01:37 AM

The exposing expansions thread should shed light on their operation. To sum it up is they are con artists running a cult and destroying the lives of many people.

***iqhunk*** · 04-18-2011, 08:29 AM

Their published works till 2008 are very good but they sadly did not practice what they preached, "Self Sabotaged" and ended up taking cash without offering appropriate services. Hence the knives are out. Their closest friends have also left them, it is not that just members on this forum alone are against them. They were very rude to some of their best friends and hence the "Mind Patterns" put out by them came back to haunt them.

***4242*** · 04-18-2011, 09:01 AM

Richard

Ive been trying to read that thread but i'm very lost when it comes to gathering information of the source of the conflict, thats why I made this post the better understand..

When you say they are con artists and they are destroying lives of people, what specifics can you give to that?

Iqhunk, Taking cash without offering appropriate services? What do you mean by that?

***iqhunk*** · 04-18-2011, 09:26 AM

Stewart was charging 75 dollars per health consultation but was not offering the money's worth. Just a few scribbled lines of material which any health newsletter will provide.
Yukesam has scanned and posted those consultations, just 15-20 dollars MAX is the correct price.

Then he charged 195 dollars for phone consultations or private consultations but said things that hurt the client, and allegedly said he needed to have sex with the client to deprogram her. A professional would have confided what was to be done to the boyfriend or partner if such is the extreme case.

Last but not the least, he is yet to offer credible info on KBA yet keeps promoting that stuff and hence does not give the money's worth. Now there is talk of his scamming 5000 bucks for a Bolivia trip, so far nobody has complained here but you can see that his reputation is at a nadir.

Another drawback of his is that he is totally against the Orgonite Cults. Orgonite can be a very useful protective device for those who are yet to practice Crystal Shape/Tetrahedral visualizations.

If he genuinely applied his Mind Pattern notes and Visualizations, he would have attracted money without the need for gimmicks. Somewhere down the line he sabotaged himself, possibly with that Brown Merger symbol. Interestingly, in the most recent expansion posts, he avoided it and stuck to the basics of Ultimate Protection and Silver Infinity.

My suggestion is to avoid any kind of consultations with him. Save your cash. Stick to the books like "Blue Blood True Blood", "Hyperspace Helper" and "Decoding your Life" by Janet, they contain very useful information. Nobody had the guts to write a book like "Blue Blood True Blood" in that period.

Perhaps he got sabotaged because of that, perhaps he got sabotaged for speaking about topics like Kuiper Belt Aliens, we cannot say for sure. But IMHO he is not the same as he was before. Whatever his enemies may say, he was a genuinely helpful person prior to 2006 answering doubts for free etc but has become very strange after some world tours, most recently an Antarctica Trip.

I wish he pays back everyone their due, apologizes to those he has hurt and recovers again to a morally upright person, but I don't think it will be easy.

***4242*** · 04-18-2011, 09:45 AM

iqhunk

So basically your saying you feel that Stewart charges too much for the services he offers? But who else could do what he offers? I've yet to encounter anyone else offering such things?

As far as what he said to a client, in all honesty and the nature of programing and deprograming it's not an adverse thing to me to hear that. A lot of programing is sexual based and so is plugging in a usb stick into your computer to access information is sexual based too. I'm not sure you could give a boyfriend a true lesson in specific techniques with dealing and interfacing with something of that nature?

**Richard** · 04-18-2011, 09:52 AM

4242 Wrote:Richard

Ive been trying to read that thread but i'm very lost when it comes to gathering information of the source of the conflict, thats why I made this post the better understand..

When you say they are con artists and they are destroying lives of people, what specifics can you give to that?

Iqhunk, Taking cash without offering appropriate services? What do you mean by that?

What specifics are you looking for. It seems like a thread that's over 50 pages long should spell it out for you. Half of the information they preach is disinformation. They give bad advice to people that leads people to make bad decisions. They try to break up couples because it's easier to control one person than two. Their deprogramming techniques are actually programming people. They are reasonable for the deaths of two people recently. They almost killed my girl friend. stew raped and killed boys at Montauk. The list of horrible things they do just goes on and on. They pretend to be saviors but the reality is they are very evil.

***PurplePebble*** · 04-18-2011, 10:37 AM

[user=1643]4242[/user] wrote:
[quote

So basically your saying you feel that Stewart charges too much for the services he offers? But who else could do what he offers? I've yet to encounter anyone else offering such things?
I'm not sure you could give a boyfriend a true lesson in specific techniques with dealing and interfacing with something of that nature?[/quote]

You haven't encountered anyone else who "offers such things" because
the things offered are straight out of Stews twisted "god mind"...

No "deprogrammer" who claims to be spiritual, would offer to deprogram a person with sex. Full Stop.( the supposed "sexual deprogramming" that stew was involved in consisted of men only)

***4242*** · 04-18-2011, 11:25 AM

[user=1596]PurplePebble[/user] wrote:

Quote:No "deprogrammer" who claims to be spiritual, would offer to deprogram a person with sex. Full Stop.( the supposed "sexual deprogramming" that stew was involved in consisted of men only)

Why couldn't/wouldn't a deprogrammer who claims to be spiritual not offer to deprogram a person with sex?

If you believe reptilians are living underground in stasis waiting to come up and Illuminati are controlling the world why wouldn't it be plausible you couldn't you deprogram a person with sex? Everything is possible in this world is it not?

not trying to argue with you, just asking the tough questions.

***Mercy Now*** · 04-18-2011, 11:27 AM

iqhunk Wrote: he was a genuinely helpful person prior to 2006

No he wasn't. They have been con artists since the get go.

Most of his stuff is BS and mixed with half truths.

But then some people who don't know that Tim Leary worked consciously and actively with MK-Ultra think he was a good guy too.icon_rolleyes

Is an enemy someone who speaks the truth about them?