What do you know about the Genesis 6 thing about "Sons of God?"

[Mercy Now]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

Well, I guess I shouldn't have said original. I'm talking about bibles before and some after the KJV bible. The NAS says Nephilim. The NAS is a literal translation and the KJV isn't. Back when I believed in the bible I liked the NAS the best. There are other bibles too that say Nephilim, you can see them at this link:

http://bible.cc/genesis/6-4.htm

Those listed are all various translations of the ancient texts.

[Mercy Now]

Nephilim stems from the Aramaic word "naphal" which means to fall.


The Hebrew bible has many words brought into it from Aramaic and then 'corrected' into proper Hebrew form.
Aramaic was the language of Babylon when the Jews were in exile there.

So the plural in Aramaic would be "nephilin" and then corrected to the Hebrew spelling of "nephilim"

There is an is an entry for "naphal" (from bottom of page 923) from the leading Aramaic lexicon-
M.Jastrow's Dictionary of the Targumim,the Talmud Bavli and Yerushalmi, and the Midrashic Literature(vol. 2 pp. 923-924)

I've tried uploading it here but am unable to.

It has the Hebrew definition ...giants... and interestingly enough the word also refers to a species of....lizards. Specifically ..."lizards living in the water".



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[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

While we are at it..can somebody please translate the word seraphim? Not wanting to be ot, but I think it somehow belongs to the thread.


[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

and interestingly enough the word also refers to a species of....lizards. Specifically ..."lizards living in the water".



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[Mercy Now]

[user=1346]Golden Winged SnakeOiLion[/user] wrote:

While we are at it..can somebody please translate the word seraphim? Not wanting to be ot, but I think it somehow belongs to the thread.


[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

and interestingly enough the word also refers to a species of....lizards. Specifically ..."lizards living in the water".



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The common Hebrew noun "saraph " means serpent . Seraphim would be plural.
Biblical 'seraphim" had hands ,feet and wings and could speak.Apparently they weren't mere "snakes " but something both human-like and serpentine.


Here is a reference that will load up here.

http://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/numbers/21.html

Scroll down the middle(yellow/gold) column to 21:6 . Place your cursor on the word "S'rafyim" in the middle sentence.
Don't know about the copper color description.

[Richard]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

Well, I guess I shouldn't have said original. I'm talking about bibles before and some after the KJV bible. The NAS says Nephilim. The NAS is a literal translation and the KJV isn't. Back when I believed in the bible I liked the NAS the best. There are other bibles too that say Nephilim, you can see them at this link:

http://bible.cc/genesis/6-4.htm

Those listed are all various translations of the ancient texts.

This is true but what point are you making?

[Mercy Now]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

Well, I guess I shouldn't have said original. I'm talking about bibles before and some after the KJV bible. The NAS says Nephilim. The NAS is a literal translation and the KJV isn't. Back when I believed in the bible I liked the NAS the best. There are other bibles too that say Nephilim, you can see them at this link:

http://bible.cc/genesis/6-4.htm

Those listed are all various translations of the ancient texts.

This is true but what point are you making?

Only that some "original texts" never made it into the Bible. The book of Enoch for example.

[Richard]

[user=61]Mercy Now[/user] wrote:

Only that some "original texts" never made it into the Bible. The book of Enoch for example.

There was a lot of books that never made it in the bible but what does that have to do with Genesis 6?

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Hi everyone, been reading forums here for awhile and decided to join.

In the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Ages of Creation (4Q180) it refers to them as angels
...the angels who came to the daughters of men; and they bore to them giants.
 
The Book of Enoch in the Dead Sea Scrolls refers to them as chiefs who took human wives, taught them sorcery and magic and bore giants. The Good News Bible calls them supernatural beings.

The giants were wiped out in the flood according to An Admonition Associated with the Flood (4Q370).

Gen.6:9...Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations..
Meaning he was of pure human blood and that is why he and his sons were saved.

Mercy Now, here is a link to the Hebrew meaning of Nephilim you were referring to.

http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss-lc-enoch.htm

http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss_bo...giants.htm

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/nephilim/nephilim.htm

[Richard]

Interesting info. You're saying they were angels but I find it hard to believe the offspring were 450' tall.

Where did these angels come from? I don't believe in heaven or hell, so I figure these angels came from another planet.

Your links have thrown my history out of whack.