Who is keeping the Illuminati in check ?

[infrared]

Um, there is no United States/NWO in deep space. Anyone could be in control

[Richard]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

[user=1410]Sekhmet[/user] wrote:

I am here, but I am not trapped. :) You don't have to like physical reality. You don't have to do anything. But love is the force that keeps all realities moving. Imagine if the ones responsible for them would just turn their backs on everything because they don't like something. Where would we be? You also don't have to like someone raping another person. God, no. But you can be neutral. Because if you hate, you are, there isn't a good word in English here for what I mean, but let's say you're falling into the same type of emotions and mindset that the rapist belongs to. And you are trapping yourself instead of setting yourself free. Hate never led to anything good. It won't lead you into something good either. :)

First thought in God-mind was Christ-consciousness. Oversoul resonates on that frequency - consciousness. You think some measly reptile who learned to control technology that was given to them can overrule that kind of supreme consciousness and lead a soul to be tricked into coming here, without agreement from Oversoul? It's impossible. And that's why I mentioned God-Mind. Therefore, you were not tricked. Because of a simple reason that you cannot be tricked.

So you're saying you wanted to come here? For what purpose?

[Richard]

Does it? Or is that people choose to do things that result in such? Freewill is a bit*h, consequence is it's sister. Because people have ignored what's not mentioned, lost their way, and yes, because they did the right things, bad things happen. You don't have to tell me about the latter. I can't stand the fact that I cannot act directly now against TPTB. But I know that now isn't the time. But it sounds like you're succombing to the Lucifer mindset. You're stronger than that.

By not liking something makes it succumbing to Lucifer? Seems like a strange way of thinking to me. So if someone doesn't like Hitler means they are succumbing to Lucifer? Or how about a girl that gets raped by her father on a daily basis and she hates that reality. Does that mean she is succumbing to Lucifer? Instead she's supposed to love it?

No, and you should know that's not what I'm saying. We both know what's really behind your latter example, and we both detest it just the same. However this "New Age," and tainted religious stuff of infinite tolerance,peace and love, DOES say exactly yes to what you ask.

 What I'm saying is that by getting into the mindset that GOD isn't doing anything, or would do anything is what Lucifer wants. In otherwords, by the torment,despair,even testing, he inspires some to do.  That some who choose that way of living, he meets his goal of total GOD abandonment when people go beyond blaming GOD for whatever's happened. He wants the populace to turn to him to fight a battle that he, and those who choose to serve him, cannot,do not win. This is done each individual at a time, who goes that way. By their own choice and reason via circumstance.
What I just posted above should illustrate two ways Lucifer, and TPTB are going about meeting the goals of GOD abandonment, and pacifying the populace.

Every act of violence,injustice,every drop of blood spilled will be accounted for with pure wrath towards those responsible. That's in part, what the KBA are massing for. The other part is to help those who've not chosen to be on the business end of things, to grow,heal, and live the way GOD intended humanity to live. This part, can only be done once, these cast outs and servants are eliminated.
 You know TPTB who serve only Lucifer, are more than concerned about this certainty. Which is why they've sped up their plans. It will happen irregardless, however people have always played a part, at this point, in how bad it's going to be. It IS all connected.

 Not liking something is one thing, but going beyond that, towards blame of GOD, instead of who's really responsible, leads to abandonment. Which leads to nothing less than despair,misery, and death unending. This is exactly where Lucifer wants humanity to choose to be, while his servants manage humanity towards his ends. That's my point.

BTW Hitler was the bastard son of a randy Rothschild romp, which makes him Jewish only in name, not faith and practice like the rest. Interesting that the Pres of Iran is also Jewish, and a Mason, who wants to wipe out Israel. My point with this sidebar is that evil is evil. Nothing wrong with not liking that.

You're reading too much into what I said. I never said I blame God for anything.
I think labeling things that is different to your way of thinking as serving Lucifer sounds like religious crap to me.

[Sekhmet]

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:

[user=1410]Sekhmet[/user] wrote:

I am here, but I am not trapped. :) You don't have to like physical reality. You don't have to do anything. But love is the force that keeps all realities moving. Imagine if the ones responsible for them would just turn their backs on everything because they don't like something. Where would we be? You also don't have to like someone raping another person. God, no. But you can be neutral. Because if you hate, you are, there isn't a good word in English here for what I mean, but let's say you're falling into the same type of emotions and mindset that the rapist belongs to. And you are trapping yourself instead of setting yourself free. Hate never led to anything good. It won't lead you into something good either. :)

First thought in God-mind was Christ-consciousness. Oversoul resonates on that frequency - consciousness. You think some measly reptile who learned to control technology that was given to them can overrule that kind of supreme consciousness and lead a soul to be tricked into coming here, without agreement from Oversoul? It's impossible. And that's why I mentioned God-Mind. Therefore, you were not tricked. Because of a simple reason that you cannot be tricked.

So you're saying you wanted to come here? For what purpose?

To overcome incorrect mind patterns that can only be overcame here.

[Anu-021413]

Does it? Or is that people choose to do things that result in such? Freewill is a bit*h, consequence is it's sister. Because people have ignored what's not mentioned, lost their way, and yes, because they did the right things, bad things happen. You don't have to tell me about the latter. I can't stand the fact that I cannot act directly now against TPTB. But I know that now isn't the time. But it sounds like you're succombing to the Lucifer mindset. You're stronger than that.

By not liking something makes it succumbing to Lucifer? Seems like a strange way of thinking to me. So if someone doesn't like Hitler means they are succumbing to Lucifer? Or how about a girl that gets raped by her father on a daily basis and she hates that reality. Does that mean she is succumbing to Lucifer? Instead she's supposed to love it?

No, and you should know that's not what I'm saying. We both know what's really behind your latter example, and we both detest it just the same. However this "New Age," and tainted religious stuff of infinite tolerance,peace and love, DOES say exactly yes to what you ask.

 What I'm saying is that by getting into the mindset that GOD isn't doing anything, or would do anything is what Lucifer wants. In otherwords, by the torment,despair,even testing, he inspires some to do.  That some who choose that way of living, he meets his goal of total GOD abandonment when people go beyond blaming GOD for whatever's happened. He wants the populace to turn to him to fight a battle that he, and those who choose to serve him, cannot,do not win. This is done each individual at a time, who goes that way. By their own choice and reason via circumstance.
What I just posted above should illustrate two ways Lucifer, and TPTB are going about meeting the goals of GOD abandonment, and pacifying the populace.

Every act of violence,injustice,every drop of blood spilled will be accounted for with pure wrath towards those responsible. That's in part, what the KBA are massing for. The other part is to help those who've not chosen to be on the business end of things, to grow,heal, and live the way GOD intended humanity to live. This part, can only be done once, these cast outs and servants are eliminated.
 You know TPTB who serve only Lucifer, are more than concerned about this certainty. Which is why they've sped up their plans. It will happen irregardless, however people have always played a part, at this point, in how bad it's going to be. It IS all connected.

 Not liking something is one thing, but going beyond that, towards blame of GOD, instead of who's really responsible, leads to abandonment. Which leads to nothing less than despair,misery, and death unending. This is exactly where Lucifer wants humanity to choose to be, while his servants manage humanity towards his ends. That's my point.

BTW Hitler was the bastard son of a randy Rothschild romp, which makes him Jewish only in name, not faith and practice like the rest. Interesting that the Pres of Iran is also Jewish, and a Mason, who wants to wipe out Israel. My point with this sidebar is that evil is evil. Nothing wrong with not liking that.

You're reading too much into what I said. I never said I blame God for anything.
I think labeling things that is different to your way of thinking as serving Lucifer sounds like religious crap to me.

"What does God-mind have to do with anything? God-mind lets everything happen. God-mind does not police things. You're here too, are you trapped by the Luciferian consciousness? "

Maybe I misread what you meant by this, but I didn't label anything different to what I see and think thereof. It did read like you were giving in. I called it like it was written to take place. What I said was tat it's one of his goals. Check the biblical ref to grinding and nashing of teeth, and cursing GOD. How some would listen but scoff,and some would listen and understand. It's taking place now, so I wouldn't call it crap. It's no different that people not being aware, and scoffing at the true nature of TPTB. Just different topics that are part of the same whole subject.

[Richard]

To overcome incorrect mind patterns that can only be overcame here.

What makes you think they can only be corrected here?

[Richard]

Maybe I misread what you meant by this, but I didn't label anything different to what I see and think thereof. It did read like you were giving in. I called it like it was written to take place. What I said was tat it's one of his goals. Check the biblical ref to grinding and nashing of teeth, and cursing GOD. How some would listen but scoff,and some would listen and understand. It's taking place now, so I wouldn't call it crap. It's no different that people not being aware, and scoffing at the true nature of TPTB. Just different topics that are part of the same whole subject.

I just think it's a bunch of nonsense that just because a person doesn't like something means they are serving the devil. It just doesn't make sense and I live by the rule that if it doesn't makes sense then it's more than likely not true. It would make more sense that people who love what they see going on this reality they are serving the devil.

[MC]

Come on people,Richard is right.

[MC]

To overcome incorrect mind patterns that can only be overcame here.

What makes you think they can only be corrected here?

Because,those with the most incorrect mind patterns incarnate here.This is a place to learn.However,most do not learn and they must incarnate many times more.If they do learn,they can overcome anything that takes place on this planet.They don't call this a prison planet for no reason.

[Richard]

Because,those with the most incorrect mind patterns incarnate here.This is a place to learn.However,most do not learn and they must incarnate many times more.If they do learn,they can overcome anything that takes place on this planet.They don't call this a prison planet for no reason.

That makes sense. I would think this reality is one of the worst places someone could pick to incarnate to.