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Creator/Creation
#21
I wonder how they get away with everything too. It would be nice if we did have a Christ here ruling to put end to it all nonsense.
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#22
Well.  John lamb says the aliens never succeeded in adulterating our dna in anyway, that that belief is basically a psyops mission to destroy our hope.  The anthropos is too strong, he would say.  

I of course am withholding final judgement,  just like god. (I am that, I am!) LOL.
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#23
Dr. Malanga's 2009 lecture translated from Italian.

"Updates on Alien Interferences"

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...ow1iw5LsfQ
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#24
This is a worthwhile thread to read from the beginning.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...it/page140

"It seems that the periodic world destructions come in circles or better to say at the time when

humanity figures out what was going on and when aliens get close in their attempts to acquire human souls!? According to Dr Malanga, PM destroys the world in order to preserve his position.

In the legend of the great deluge, the Primordial Man rescues (part of) the humanity from a disaster he himself has caused; he is a being who acts on the water world, he inhabits it and manipulates it. So, the fish (PM) is rescuing Manu (at the end of other ages it were Utnapishtim and Noah) from the deluge by transporing him in an ark. In fact, in this way PM preserves the human genome (soul containers) for the next circe.

that everything is about preventing people to understand that they have a soul, to prevent the man to understand that he is the soul. So, the “spiritual conspiracy“ is all abot that. Making those 3-component beings to think and behave like 2-component beings.It seems

Those who contemplate this dynamics may ask themselves the following question – how PM who „has souls“ can manipulate the humanity (beside the aliens who do not have it) if the souls are humane by its nature?...

In Genesis II, Dr Malanga said:

[Image: quote_icon.png] From one side, there is PM who wants the soul for any price because he regards her as its slave, and from the other side, the soul does not want to be anybody's slave. Beside that, there is one thing which becomes more and more clear. The soul, under hypnosis and even in a mental simulation, says that PM is one container inside which, in fact, there is no soul. The soul actually resides in human bodies, but [inside the PM] there is something like a mirror reflection [of the soul] which somehow enables PM to live during the period when the soul inhabits human containers.
Dr Malanga on - two souls:

[Image: quote_icon.png] Two Souls in Pistis Sophia

As we know, there are two sources of the soul: first one comes from the 1st Creator and the 2nd, from the 2nd Creator, the one who creates bodiless things and using bodies created through the 1st Creator. When reading carefully Pistis Sophia, it seems that the problem is pretty well described in this gnostic material. Pistis, consciousness, gnosis, produces Eve, the soul part of the universe, who gives birth to two daughters: one is Norea (Orea) and the other is Zoe. When Norea asks the angel Eleleth to teach her about the true nature of archons, she learns how evil they are, however, she learns about the existence of 2nd Eve's daughter Zoe, as well (...)
**

At the end, it comes out that we have here a nice mixture of people having the soul originating from the 1st Creator, (with a certain number of those souls being controlled by PM), people with the souls originating from the 2nd Creator and people without a soul (in Eastern Gnosis called „anthropoids“ or „Sons of God“).

Dr Malanga says that in each circle we, as the humanity, become more and more aware, so that there were some chances to prevent the destruction of the humanity by archontic forces this time, at the end of this circle!? Probably, a certain threshold of awareness would be required for that!? So far, it has been noted that people with integrated components can influence and perhaps modify the holographic reality. So, it could be done to our own advantage. As 3-component beings, once we become aware, we will overcome the archontic control. At the end, we are superior to the archontic forces which are based on only 2 components" (post 2791 by SMS)
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#25
I agree, it is an interesting, worthwhile and quite a pithy thread on the project avalon forum to read and poke around a bit.
It gleans several different and interesting sources and views on the archonic control of humanity, and is a good read if you are interested to know or to entertain and ponder how deep the manipulation of us earthlings really may go: The spiritual conspiracy. 

It is pretty clear to me that we are at the least sequestered away from 'Source' in this deplorable, cruel world we find ourselves.
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#26
(05-24-2013, 10:46 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: Dr. Malanga's 2009 lecture translated from Italian.

"Updates on Alien Interferences"

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...ow1iw5LsfQ

Bump - excellent info.~
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#27
I decided to check into the Horus Ra thread at project Avalon and found this amazing video post #2904...miraculous!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...it/page146
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#28
(05-27-2013, 12:45 AM)Elizabeth Wrote: This is a worthwhile thread to read from the beginning.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...it/page140

"It seems that the periodic world destructions come in circles or better to say at the time when

humanity figures out what was going on and when aliens get close in their attempts to acquire human souls!? According to Dr Malanga, PM destroys the world in order to preserve his position.

In the legend of the great deluge, the Primordial Man rescues (part of) the humanity from a disaster he himself has caused; he is a being who acts on the water world, he inhabits it and manipulates it. So, the fish (PM) is rescuing Manu (at the end of other ages it were Utnapishtim and Noah) from the deluge by transporing him in an ark. In fact, in this way PM preserves the human genome (soul containers) for the next circe.

that everything is about preventing people to understand that they have a soul, to prevent the man to understand that he is the soul. So, the “spiritual conspiracy“ is all abot that. Making those 3-component beings to think and behave like 2-component beings.It seems

Those who contemplate this dynamics may ask themselves the following question – how PM who „has souls“ can manipulate the humanity (beside the aliens who do not have it) if the souls are humane by its nature?...

In Genesis II, Dr Malanga said:

[Image: quote_icon.png] From one side, there is PM who wants the soul for any price because he regards her as its slave, and from the other side, the soul does not want to be anybody's slave. Beside that, there is one thing which becomes more and more clear. The soul, under hypnosis and even in a mental simulation, says that PM is one container inside which, in fact, there is no soul. The soul actually resides in human bodies, but [inside the PM] there is something like a mirror reflection [of the soul] which somehow enables PM to live during the period when the soul inhabits human containers.
Dr Malanga on - two souls:

[Image: quote_icon.png] Two Souls in Pistis Sophia

As we know, there are two sources of the soul: first one comes from the 1st Creator and the 2nd, from the 2nd Creator, the one who creates bodiless things and using bodies created through the 1st Creator. When reading carefully Pistis Sophia, it seems that the problem is pretty well described in this gnostic material. Pistis, consciousness, gnosis, produces Eve, the soul part of the universe, who gives birth to two daughters: one is Norea (Orea) and the other is Zoe. When Norea asks the angel Eleleth to teach her about the true nature of archons, she learns how evil they are, however, she learns about the existence of 2nd Eve's daughter Zoe, as well (...)
**

At the end, it comes out that we have here a nice mixture of people having the soul originating from the 1st Creator, (with a certain number of those souls being controlled by PM), people with the souls originating from the 2nd Creator and people without a soul (in Eastern Gnosis called „anthropoids“ or „Sons of God“).

Dr Malanga says that in each circle we, as the humanity, become more and more aware, so that there were some chances to prevent the destruction of the humanity by archontic forces this time, at the end of this circle!? Probably, a certain threshold of awareness would be required for that!? So far, it has been noted that people with integrated components can influence and perhaps modify the holographic reality. So, it could be done to our own advantage. As 3-component beings, once we become aware, we will overcome the archontic control. At the end, we are superior to the archontic forces which are based on only 2 components" (post 2791 by SMS)


http://www.messagetoeagle.com/creatorprogrammer.php


Interesting article describing the creator as a computer programmer.
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#29
The Matrix Revealed

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...-Solutions
 
This is a fascinating thread to read started by an abductee who has great insight.

"One could say that the matrix exists on four levels: There is the local matrix of planet Earth run by the "Illuminati" residing in human bodies; there is the matrix created and run by ETs vis-a-vis Earth; there is the matrix of the physical universe; and there is the more fundamental matrix that exists beyond time, space, the physical universe, is of an entirely spiritual nature and in its purest sense would not actually fall under the definition of "matrix".

"The purpose of the thread is to examine the various levels of the matrix and explore solutions to improve conditions within the matrix."The ETCs are extremely clever, and their technology appears to us as magic. With this amazing technology they have built a labyrinth so elaborate and so vast that it boggles the imagination. Like sinister cosmic spiders they have spun a silky web of deceit that seduces people to imprison themselves with ideas.

However, these beings are not infallible. Past life research is the key that unlocks the door to the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy and demonstrates that we are all incredible spiritual beings. Past life memory retrieval, properly done on an individual basis, can free us from the machinations of these beings and offers hope for a new world of peace and understanding..."
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#30
"Everything existing in our reality and happening here, exists and happens through the energies of the astral plane. Nothing can happen if there is no corresponding energy to it from the 4[sup]th[/sup] dimension. Whoever wants to change something in our reality must make a change on the astral plane first, consciously or unconsciously. Material reality without the astral realm is like a computer without software. Without software, the computer is dead matter. Without the astral, the reality is dead matter. And further: If the astral realm is ruled by devils, our reality turns into hell. If the astral realm is filled with angels, it becomes heaven, or at least paradise" (Franz Erdle).
 
http://psitalent.de/Englisch/Fatale%20Errors.htm
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