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Good point iqhunk, Saturn can be a real turn if other planets in the chart are conflicting with that the energy, especially Venus.
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I was curious about what is said in this particular thread---I want to just relate here..I'm 27 myself..I'm going through a transition(that I also find myself crying about but its needed so I can be a better independent woman--I look very young to people but I'm older than that and I should appear that way and behave that way--I am very youthful,energetic and I want to stay that way but I also want to evolve and be appearing to others as more mature and stable-not so whimsical) --my current life phase is something that I dont know how to explain-things fluctuate but I just go forward--I learned not to trust everyone with everything--I'm still uncertain if what I'm saying is okay here. I think what I've found or the best thing that helps me--is what people always told me to do...to stay focused and in the moment..aware of what is and what isn't. I've always seemed distracted/unfocused/not at ease. I'm learning how to be a better human..how to function better, to not let things affect me like they did..I'd tolerate everything or brood over things..thats becoming lesser and lesser so I can be in the moment. Everything changes so much and I know sometimes we're stuck in other realities/other moments/other times or we even plan the next time around..things that might not be(thats another thing..just believe in your manifestation ,allow what Oversoul/higherself to happen and accept you and whats happening at the same time).When you're in the present moment, you can't be harmed or let anything hurt you.
Believe me, sometimes I wake up too and I cry a lot--but I get up and keep going..sometimes I dont want to but I have to. I'm healing and thats all I know.
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I try to make a list of 13-cubed release exercises and 13-cubed deprogramming exercises.
Release:
* 13 issues in 13+13+13 sub issues release (methods: golden altar, oversoul, weeding the garden, brown shelf, etc)
* violeted 13-cubed matrix
* Silver infinity above a 13-cubed matrix full of unwanted things
* Putting 13-cubed blocks filled with undesired imprints on a golden altar and flush them with violet.
* Putting 13-cubed blocks filled with undesired possible outcomes on a brown shelf and send them to the outer borders of the universe; or brown X them.
Deprogramming:
* Silver infinity 13x13x13 times merging to 1 in violet 13-cubed matrix
* Brown merger idem ,, ,, ,,
* Brown merger idem ,, ,, in royal-blue 13 cubed matrix
* Golden aleph idem ,, ,, ,,
* Royal-blue T-bar 13x13x13 times merging to 1 in royal-blue cube
* flush a 13x13x13 matrix in gold destroying every unwanted thing in it with a golden hammer and reflush it in violet to a violet 13x13x13 matrix, end in brown.
* Get a 13x13x13 matrix full of white rabits of your programming aspects you want to eliminate, take a brown merger symbol and put it on every rabit you see and merge it to 1 big brown merger in the matrix and flush it in violet, end with a violet 13x13x13 matrix, enclosed in brown.
* Golden winged lion 13x13x13 times merging to 1 in violet 13-cubed matrix
Please, warn me if I have made inappropriate exercises. I think the rabit exericse can be dangerous, I don't know. Don't do it if you are not sure about it.
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Hi octahedron,
Did these exercises work for you? Personally I do not know anyone that achieves deprogramming through these types of techniques, and the majority of people I associate/connect with are specifically programmed.
The one common thread that all specifically programmed people tend to have is the inability to continue an exercise on a regular program; the mind has been altered to not give too much focus for any length of time, deprogrammers should be aware of this, yet they are not and become frustrated with the person. Many programmed people can not finish tasks or they have several at a time and become frustrated because the job at hand then becomes overwhelming. The other common factor is that specifically programmed people are very pessimistic towards life, which is totally understandable considering what they have endured.
I apologize if I seem critical, this is not my intention, I appreciate the time given to write up these exercises and I welcome any exercise that does actually work, in order to conquer the programming it is necessary to separate the thoughts that are beamed into your mind, and the ones that truly belong to you.
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Thanks PurpleParrot, I'm begining to realize these same things that you are talking about. Staying focused in the moment has been a challenge. It can be so easy to think of other realities. For whatever reason I'm in this reality so I will make the best of it. The world is our oyster, why is it difficult to realize this sometimes? Why do I cry when I can have anything? For a while I was numb but I'm waking up now.
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I'm not answering for Octahedron but want to add a thought or two here.
I think there are a lot of conclusions which cannot be drawn about various deprogramming methods yet because not enough years have passed.
There is a certain event on the Illuminati agenda which has me greatly concerned and that is if they ever get around to presenting the anti-christ at some point. That may be a true test of how much many people with monarch programming have actually been able to deprogram, no matter what the method.
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Astrojewels Wrote:Hi octahedron,
Did these exercises work for you? Personally I do not know anyone that achieves deprogramming through these types of techniques, and the majority of people I associate/connect with are specifically programmed.
Let me put effort to answer to this important comment:
Honestly to say, I did not yet put much % in 13-cubed deprogramming, yet, but the following things which I sometimes did, did really work for me:
- violet flushes of 13x13x13 matrices just AFTER (say 30-60 minutes) golden altar sessions
- 13x13x13 brown merger to 1 in violet matrix
- for myself the number 13 has some relevance but more in 3x13 = 39
- counting 1 tot 13 issues and smash them all with a golden sledge hammer, then again put/flush all broken issues in violet, then again put on all 13 items the brown merger symbol and end with 1 big brown merger over a pure violet end display, end in brown.
these exercises and deprogamming sessions/hyperspace sessions in general can be strongly safeguarded with masturbation sessions in between for a male, but this is difficult to manage because you have to know about Wilhelm-Reich economics and be aware not to fall out of balance. While I'm a male I can not speak for females of course.
I also tend to conclude it is also better not to mix in a certain time period (1-2 days) direct Oversoul work with masturbation or sex-magick. The reason I think is, is that the Oversoul accessway is a very high energy level access while sex-magick is a practical way of accessing and manipulating and cleansing the subconscious matrix where lower vibration energies are to be reconfigured/reprogrammed.
In general, after 1-2 days from a deprogramming session the body seems to expel the negative energies, so it is then logical to be in nature to release more energies to the outer nature effectively or taking a sea-salt bath to extract and remove them.
[user=148] Astrojewels[/user] wrote:
Quote:The one common thread that all specifically programmed people tend to have is the inability to continue an exercise on a regular program; the mind has been altered to not give too much focus for any length of time, deprogrammers should be aware of this, yet they are not and become frustrated with the person. Many programmed people can not finish tasks or they have several at a time and become frustrated because the job at hand then becomes overwhelming. The other common factor is that specifically programmed people are very pessimistic towards life, which is totally understandable considering what they have endured.
This is absolutely true, I've experienced the same feelings; I was only able to do these exercises because I had plenty of time and energy and rest reserved to do them.
If people are coming unfocused or frustrated then this is a sign they encounter the first guard or blockade against deprogramming. They must write serious plans to do these exercises and make deprogramming policies and strategies without doubt. They must be aware deprogramming is a war against an enemy within and against an enemy incorporated in social rules; but a mix of flexibility and persistence can help.
Also when feeling tired or upset DO NOT deprogram ! Resting, balancing, taking good food and grounding is the best thing to do then.
I think patience and take little steps is the way to this for them; be persistent, don't hurry, but try to monitor or write about the little changing effects in life that will give confidence. Is is not unusual to see the response time of deprogramming sessions can be 2-3 months; which means good results are coming to the surface after weeks/months and not within hours or days, although golden Altar sessions with masturbation for a male can give immediate results.
My experience is that Oversoul release, Golden Altar and using violet color in many ways is the quickest deprogrammer toolset.
Astrojewels, I hope you can use these stories.
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Octahedron,
I always respect and appreciate your knowledge, I am glad to hear that some of these methods have given you some response with a positive outcome. I am very aware of the sexual techniques to deprogramming, I know a man who did a complete session with a well known programmer, yet this actually split his mind in a very negative way, I do not want to go into it but he took a long time to recover from the experience.
Totally agree that any deprogramming takes patience and little steps, I think it is good to have all these base/general techniques, and I only ever evaluate from the experience I have received from programmed people, I do not believe you can gain true knowledge into deprogramming any other way.
We are only beginning to succeed with acknowledging the truth of programming, and I see this as a truly fantastic breakthrough for humanity, yet we have activated the problem, now we need to find the solution.
The greatest problem I see is that there may be millions programmed with monarch (as an example), yet each person requires individual work to conquer, because even though the actual program is unchanged, it mutates to the individual, because each person has an distinct mind pattern and the program is absorbed in that particular manner, so general techniques can not work on a wide scale or in a group method.
I work hard with trying to find solutions, the other common factor I have found in 99% of monarchs is that this has been inherited; therefore the deprogramming must include the parent, grandparent and often much further.
It is not easy but working together I do believe we will find the solution, you know I am a true optimist!
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Thanks for your valuable comments Astrojewels,
When deprogramming I do it private on my own, I hesitate using or ask a male deprogrammer be involved in my deprogramming, and I think I will never do so, because there is always a risk of intermixing unwanted energy-exchanges.
I'm convinced the individual Wilhelm Reich/Sex-magick technics & Oversoul communications are the clues in deprogramming, however with the increased mind-control & ELF and cell-phones, Television, sex-magick is not as safe as you think.
When doing Wilhelm Reich work you must be aware ELF and other sabotages can not intrude. Also for a male I think full Moon is not the best timing to deprogram.
My opinion on sexuality is completely changed and slowly I consider my body and sexuality more and more as a hardware device-equipment with an operating system then as simple biology, which is like managing and controlling a car, I'm very serious. The Elite is controlling us via electronics on the lower chakras & the sexual blatant culture of Western Society is becoming very dangerous getting going to a reptilian teletubby mess.
Deprogramming is like tuning a car or machine, every exercise has it's specific statistics, frequencies and needed conditions and instructions guide.
As to get more confidence I like the way our friend Moonchild is explaining things, straight and focused. Moonchild has written a lot of important things about deprogramming and releasework.
II don't say hyperspace exercises are the only way to deprogram, although I'm convinced the using of color in visualizations/deprogramming the mind is the most powerful way to step forward.
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Before I forget: Brainimplants and other implants in critical bodyparts do make the deprogramming also more difficult.
Alsmost everybody has a kind of brainimplants in the head; the de-activation of them is a serious part of the beginning of deprogramming work.
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