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Alex Collier in A Movie
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Michael Horn Exposed as an Agent Provocateur       
     
Aloha, recently agent provocateurs were exposed at a protest at the North American leaders summit in Quebec, Canada where they tried to incite confrontation and violence at a peaceful protest (see: http://tinyurl.com/yo6tms ). Agent provocatuers are not just active in political protests, but also present in the exopolitical community. It's important that objective criteria are found to identify agent provocateurs who can be very disruptive and divisive in the exopolitical community. Before exposing someone I believe to be an agent provocateur who has been a disruptive force in the exopolitical community, let me begin by first explaining how to identify an agent provocateur.

    An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French language, "inciting agent") is a person who secretly disrupts a group's activities from within the group. Agents provocateurs typically represent the interests of another group, or are agents directly assigned to provoke unrest, violence, debate, or argument by or within a group while acting as a member of the group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

Agent provocateurs are trained to foment dissent and heated argumentation for its divisive value in order to distract a group from its primary goals. Agent provocateurs do not seek to cooperate with others or find consensus positions in a difficult political or research environment, only to raise the levels of friction by focusing on wedge issues and by misrepresenting others. In doing so, agent provocateur will use the traditional tools of debate whereby they will present themselves as disinterested parties merely seeking the truth. In reality, their truth seeking is a thinly veiled disguise to disrupt, antagonize and provoke disharmony by making unrealistic demands in a difficult political or research environment. In 1953, the Robertson Panel recommended debunking individuals and evidence supporting the reality of flying saucers and the extraterrestrial hypothesis (see: http://www.majesticdocuments.com/officia...npanel.php ). The CIA was the main intelligence agency behind the Robertson Panel and used its recommendations to undermine UFO research. Consequently, the CIA and other intelligence agencies or like minded parties have used agent provocateurs in the UFO/exopolitical community.

There are a number of criteria we can use to spot an agent provocateur in the UFO/exopolitical community. Some of the more obvious are the following:

1. focuses on wedge issues,
2. uses debunking tactics,
3. misrepresents positions and arguments of others,
4. uses heated rhetoric and insulting language,
5. openly attacks others seeking common goals,
6. uses a suitable cover identity,
7. makes public divisive issues that are best resolved confidentially

It is important that agent provocateurs are identified since they can be very disruptive and divisive when it comes to conducting exopolitical research. This takes me to an individual who is active in the exopolitical community that based on his behavioral characteristics I have concluded is an agent provocateur.
 
Michael Horn is the "Authorized American Media Representative" of Billy Meier and exclusively promotes the Meier case as the only scientifically validated contactee case. The authenicity of the Meier case is not an issue of dispute between us since I have stated my view that Meier is a legitimate contactee, though I have disputed the exclusivity attributed to him by Meier himself and his supporters: (see: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/exopo...message/94 ). In his August 31, 2007 emails Horn once again challenged me on the merits of the Alex Collier case which we have publicly debated and disagreed over for some time (see:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prepare4co...sage/15393 ). Regardless of this, Horn has continued to pursue the issue which has led me to release this statement. Based on his past behavior and recent emails, I believe Horn has exposed himself as an agent provocateur. Here are my reasons.
 
Over the last two years, Horn has repeatedly challenged me in my support for the Alex Collier case. Despite repeated responses addressing many of the issues he raises, he continues to revisit the Collier case even though we strongly disagree over its merits. In my correspondence, I have repeatedly offered him the opportunity to agree to disagree, but he has replied that unless I respond in a manner satisfying him, that I am perpetuating a fraud. I have on many occasions pointed out my reasons for believing Alex Collier is authentic. These are summarized here: http://galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm  . Horn is free not to accept these but that does not invalidate the reasons I give. A wedge issue is one that clearly divides individuals or communities on one side or another of a debate. Since the Collier case is clearly a wedge issue and Horn refuses to move on to other exopolitical topics of common interest, then Horn satisfies the above criterion #1.

Horn claims that he is merely seeking the truth in demanding hard evidence or proof that Alex Collier is authentic. However, he crosses the line from being a "genuine skeptic" who takes an agnostic position given the lack of hard evidence to substantiate Collier's claims, to becoming a debunker wherein he says that lack of evidence means Collier is a fraud. For those desiring to know the difference between a skeptic and a debunker (or pseudo skeptic), please visit: http://www.ufoskeptic.org/ . Horn's position on Collier is that of the debunker who mistakenly leaps to the conclusion that lack of substantiation means someone is a fraud. However, absence of proof is not proof of absence. Horn has been active in the UFO/exopolitical community long enough to know this but he chooses to repeatedly ignore it in his attacks against Collier's and other contactees' authenicity. Therefore Horn is consciously taking a debunking position which satisfies above criterion #2.
 
In his August 31 email response, Horn claims that I have sent him links to Collier's material as the "best evidence for Collier's authenticity!" That is a misrepresentation since I have pointed out to Horn on many occasions that there are many factors that need to be considered in validating the claims of a contactee. Documentation and hard evidence are the most desirable but these are not always publicly available. I have pointed out that in Collier's case I have chosen to accept his claims based on both the information that is publicly available in terms of online material, his personal qualities in terms of sincerity and integrity, the investigations of other experienced researchers, and the evidence that Alex Collier has confidentially provided in our private interviews. Therefore claiming that I use Collier's online material as the "best evidence" of his authenticity is a misrepresentation. Horn therefore satisfies criterion #3.

As far as heated rhetoric and insulting language, even Horn would agree that he has problems in that regard as evidenced by his March 2006 public apology to veteran researcher Paola Harris who also supports the authenicity of Alex Collier (see: http://www.gaiaguys.net/Horn.harris.3.3.06.htm ). In his apology, Horn acknowledged saying "some very unkind, inaccurate and unnecessarily hurtful things to her." Despite his apology, Horn continues to use ad hominem attacks and heated personal responses to other researchers using terms such as "unprofessional and bogus behavior", "self-important nonsense," 'phony "researcher,"' etc. Therefore, Horn satisfies criterion #4.
 
Fifth, Horn has openly attacked others seeking common goals in terms of investigating UFO/exopolitical claims. He has for example often attacked James Gilliland who has offered much empirical evidence to substantiate his claims concerning UFOs/extraterrestrials visiting his Mt Adams retreat. See: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eceti/message/2837 . Horn has also attacked researchers such as Randolph Winters who distanced himself from the Meier case after earlier supporting it. Horn's emails and public statements are clearly attacks on my support of Alex Collier and competence as an exopolitical researcher. There are many other UFO/exopolitical researchers that he has openly clashed with and publicly attacked which show that this is not an uncommon modus operandi of Horn. Therefore, Horn satisfies criterion #5.
 
Sixth, Horn declares that he is the authorized media representative of Billy Meier. He apparently was given this appointment by the FIGU organization (see: http://figu.org/)  which was created by Meier, rather than Meier himself who disdains personal titles of any nature. FIGU as an organization, according to my own private research, has been infiltrated by the intelligence community. It is therefore feasible that FIGU was compromised in its appointment of Horn whose true role may have well been very different to simply promoting the Meier case. Horn publicly takes the position that Meier is the only scientifically validated extraterrestrial contactee. Presenting himself as Meier's media representative, Horn attacks researchers supporting other alleged extraterrestrial contactees regardless of the evidence presented, and goes to great length to exclusively promote the Meier case. He therefore has established a useful "cover identity" from which he can attack researchers in the exopolitical community. Horn in this case satisfies criterion #6.
 
Seventh, Horn in all our correspondence tries to make public divisive issues that might be more easily resolved in a confidential and respectful manner. In his Aug 31 email he sent his posts to a number of researchers including Victor Martinez in the hope that Martinez would publicly circulate Horn's views, thereby earning him public attention. Horn's earlier public statements on my support of the Collier case have been done in the interest of getting as much public attention as possible rather than resolving a divisive issue in a more confidential and respecful manner. Therefore, Horn satisfies criterion #7.
 
Based on his past behavior, public statements, and recent email exchange, my conclusion concerning Michael Horn is that he is an agent provocateur who is consciously working for a group/agency desiring to disrupt, antagonize and create friction in the exopolitical community. As to whom that group/agency is, once can only guess. Now that he has been exposed as an agent provocateur, I hope others take note of his disruptive tactics and take appropriate action.
 
In peace
 
 
Michael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.exopolitics.org

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/exopo...essage/519
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#42
The Billy Meier UFO Hoax: Introduction & Index 
  
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 09 June 2010 00:08

During the 1970s, a Swiss farmer by the name of Billy Meier produced some of the most startling pictures and films of flying objects ever. But over the years, various research has shown that without exception, ALL of these can be proven to be fakes. You will find some of the most compelling proof of fakery on this very website.

Nevertheless, this is still one of the most enduring UFO hoax cases ever, not in the least because of its complexity and the incredible amount of work that was invested in it, and the large number of people who have been willing accomplices in letting the hoax go on, either deliberately or by being taken advantage of due to gullibleness.

From almost the very beginning that the Meier case was brought to a larger audience, he has been given support by individuals who have maliciously deceived the public when presenting the "evidence" that was produced by Billy Meier, for various reasons that may go from being financial to that of deliberately spreading disinformation in order to cover-up the existence of genuine UFOs. Such is clearly the case for documentaries about Meier like the video "Contact", and it has become most evident that Billy Meier's "official representative" Michael Horn, works very hard to limit any potential damage that could come from successful debunkers, while falsely claiming support for Meier's evidence from "experts" that are either bogus or even totally made-up!

We think that some of the individuals that are advanced as "witnesses" of certain incidents related to the Meier case certainly fall into the category of "being taken advantage of". When a witness is said to be a "key witness", and that we find that this concerns incidents the witness would have observed when being merely 9-years old, and that were only recalled at the age of well over 40, then there is all reason to believe that the individual's memory and emotion may have seriously flawed any final impression of what really happened.

In this case as well as in other cases, it can neither be excluded that some of the witnesses have made untrue statements due to being under influence of the sect like Meier cult-community. We also note that in some cases genuine UFOs may have been observed in the same region as where Meier lives, but without evidence of a link with Meier, while the witnesses describe UFOs that are very different from the objects that can be seen in Meier's pictures and film footage.

Whatever one may be led to believe about some of the "gray evidence" that has been advanced by Billy Meier and his supporters, the deception of Meier's pictures, films, and other material like the sound recording, the 6-hand fingerprints, and even a brand new "Talmud", speaks for itself, while it must be noted that the pictures that are generally available online, or published in videos and books, are the "creme of the crop", where it is the least obvious that strings have been used, or that other manipulations have been applied.

According to researcher Kal Korff, Billy Meier made his first fake UFO photograps already when he spent time in India, in the 1960s and early 1970s, long before coming out with the famous pictures of the mid 1970s. Some of these early pictures can be found in our photo galleries (see links and menu). It's fair to say that by the time Meier made his pictures public, his fakery skills were of a pretty high level for his time, and that he must have worked hard and long at perfecting them.

The ultimate argument that Meier's "official representative" Michael Horn has always been using when all other arguments would fail, is that the only way to prove that Meier's pictures and films are indeed fake, would be to reproduce them. Of course, this argument is total nonsense in it's logic, but a number of valiant debunkers have taken up the challenge with rather good successes, which, of course, would never be recognized by arch-deceiver Horn, under the pretext that only remakes that would reproduce Meier's pictures and films up to the finest details would do!

It's one thing to reproduce the main techniques that were used by Billy Meier to fake his pictures and videos, it quite another to assemble all the key-elements that could satisfy that requirement. But we are proud to present the work of Phil Langdon who has finally achieved the impossible. Not only did he manage to make perfect replicas of Meier's "Pleiadian Beamships", he reproduced practically ALL of Billy Meier's photographs of fake "UFOs"!!! Beter yet, he did ALL of the work with only one 1 arm, just like Billy Meier had to do!!!!

You can find all his pictures and videos on this website for free. Use the links below to find all of it in an easy way.

Our view is that the only reason why there is still a so called Meier "controversy", is simply the fact that making fake pictures of UFOs and other such material, and claiming they are genuine, are by itself not punishable by law, while certain governments have too much to hide to bring the subject of UFOs in the open, in order to allow genuine public scrutiny of it...

Many people may after a look at the material presented on this website quickly conclude that the ridiculousness of the "evidence" put forward by Meier and his supporters, is so high, that the Billy Meier case would barely deserve any attention at all. However, it must be pointed out that the case still attracts a passionate and even fanatical following from a significant number of individuals who will not let themselves be convinced by ANY relevant evidence the Meier story is nothing but a fraud. Also, many of Meier's pictures and films have found their way into books and documentaries about UFOs and related fields, not necessarily for malicious reasons, and are thus polluting the entire view that is being given on the subject.

When considering certain aspects of this case, the question remains if the Meier hoax is merely a set-up by conmen without any scrupules, or in fact a kind of psy-op/disinfo operation to discredit the subject of UFOs in general, and/or to divert attention from more genuine cases. We consider it a very real possibility... Study the links and the presentation on this website and make up your own mind!

You will find links to tons of remakes of all the well-known pictures and films made by Billy Meier. Use the links below to find them, or browse through the articles as they are posted in this section.

All the pictures and films that have been made by "Billy" Eduard Meier or that have been made by him and used by other parties, are posted on this website under the legal conditions of "fair-use". Their sources are (ultimately):

Read more here:
http://www.thebiggestsecret.org/home/ind...meier-hoax
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#43
Michael Horn Admits to Publishing Misleading Articles for Billy Meier Case

2008 11 12

From: prlog.org

Ed Comment: This article first appeard on prlog.org but has since been removed, but it's still cached via google. Check the related links for much more.

See the respons to this article by Michael Horn: Michael Horn's response to the Derek Bartholomaus and IIG on the Billy Meier case

The Various Claims Of Billy Meier Are Now Made Even More Unlikely. On August 27, 2008 in a public email Michael Horn admitted to posting false and misleading articles on his website in order to try and support the claims of Billy Meier.

The Independent Investigations Group (IIG) is the West Coast’s leading Paranormal Investigations group. One of the more prominent cases that the IIG has looked into is regarding the alleged UFO Contactee, Eduard Albert "Billy" Meier. An individual by the name of Michael Horn is the North American Publicist for Mr. Meier.

On August 27, 2008 in a public email Michael Horn sent to the IIG he revealed that he had posted false and misleading articles on his website. When confronted with this revelation Mr. Horn admitted to posting these false and misleading articles on his website in order to try and support the claims of Billy Meier.

Michael Horn also promotes several other claims made by Billy Meier.

These claims include tales that Meier has traveled into the past on a flying saucer and took photographs of dinosaurs.

However, his photographs turned out to be photographs of illustrations of dinosaurs taken from a book. Meier also published photographs of who he claimed was his extra-terrestrial contact, but it turned out that these were photographs of a singer performing on The Dean Martin Variety Show.

Michael Horn also promotes the "prophecies" of Billy Meier.

In January 2007 he claimed that one of these prophecies, which concerned the coming of World War III, had actually come true when four Heads of State died within seven days of each other. The problem with this “prophecy” is that the four Heads of State mentioned in the article did not die within seven days of each other like the “prophecy” claimed that they would.

You can read all about Michael Horn’s admitting to posting false and misleading articles and other claims made by Billy Meier here: http://www.iigwest.org/investigations/meier/index.html
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#44
Truth be told there are probably NO proofs whatsoever that ANY one has ever had contact with ETs... wasn't it Karla Tuner (pretty sure that's her name) the well know woman in UFO circles who spent YEARS trying to get to the bottom of UFO claims that said the same?... that was her bottom line.

It's all heresay and that's probably the central featuring point in the whole subject because it comes down to whether or not you choose to belief (sorry Xanthas, there's that words again).. ok let's use "buy into".

I spent a few minutes and checked out your link, and the one that says "misquotes of Michael Horm"... it takes careful reading. The article hones in on "quotes" when he was paraphrasing.. : "we mentioned that we could definitely do it TODAY with CG, but AT THE TIME these were supposedly shot - it would have been very hard, PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE, to fake this kind of shot.

So, to sum it up - we did not say "these are clearly not models" (what MH said).

did you catch that? and in the next paragraph you have to read careful to catch words like "appears to be" ...
Sounds to me that they were admitting in at least two places in my quick search how nearly IMPOSSIBLE and difficult it would have been for them to duplicate... STILL that does not, I agree, make the photos real. It merely states how difficult at that time it would have been to fake them.

The bottom line is that so many people choose to buy into a rabbit hole with an empty bottom.

YOu've gone to a lot of trouble to dig up stuff, more effort than I care to participate in because I already know the central point.
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#45
Horn has a financial interested in trying to make people believe Billy is the only contactee which is ridiculous and from everything I've read it sounds like Billy is a phony.
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