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Atheism - Your Opinion?
#11
Astrojewels Wrote:What we talk about here is my truth, but may not be yours, but what directed you here? Why are you attracted to us? And what must you learn through sharing your energy of thought with ours?
I don't understand "this is my truth". There can only be one truth in this reality, not many. If God was a man in Heaven who had a plan for all of us which was proven, that is truth, not a belief system. I don't believe in a personal God and never really have, even when I was Christian. A Buddhist, Taoist, Christian, Hindu, etc.  might see who they worship/believe in at the time of death, but what happens after that? This is where truth comes in.

What directed me here was basically a common interest. I've heard Stewart on the radio and I was looking for people who have tried his hyperspace techniques to see what they thought about it, as well as discussions of non-mainstream information. The first time I was introduced to another perspective of God was from Alex Collier, who's interpretation of God is basically the same as Stewart's. Since I believe God-Mind exists, I want to learn how to communicate with it via hyperspace techniques.
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#12
Bad choice of words, I did not mean ‘mine’ literally, I meant all the people on this forum share collective patterns of how we see life, and I personally feel no need to follow a leader or deity, but that is me and my thoughts, but that does not mean it is accurate to another. You are correct in saying there is /should be one truth, but which truth is correct and will we as a species ever agree on one truth?
We live in a world of social conflict and I think most are searching for something but should one judge another for these differences. I have many friends with varying beliefs of god but we do not have that one common negative thread that creates wars between these differences; the one truth we all share is love and respect for one another.
There are people here on the forum that has experience with the hyperspace techniques, but again you will see that some agree and others disagree with these techniques, so it basically must come down to your truth of who is correct and who is incorrect?
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#13
Well said, AJ.  I think once again we come to the difference between religion and spirituality.  This people that come to this forum seem to have various ways of expressing spirituality, and they are all interesting and I can learn from them.  On the other hand, there aren't many that seem to be stuck in a religious dogma or that have a closed mind.  That's one of the things I love about this forum!
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#14
Astrojewels Wrote:Bad choice of words, I did not mean ‘mine’ literally, I meant all the people on this forum share collective patterns of how we see life, and I personally feel no need to follow a leader or deity, but that is me and my thoughts, but that does not mean it is accurate to another. You are correct in saying there is /should be one truth, but which truth is correct and will we as a species ever agree on one truth?
There are people here on the forum that has experience with the hyperspace techniques, but again you will see that some agree and others disagree with these techniques, so it basically must come down to your truth of who is correct and who is incorrect?
I agree that we don't need to follow anyone, we should all be leaders.

As for agreeing on the truth, it's not as much a matter of agreeing rather than a matter of accepting it. Some people try to fit every anomaly that is reported into their beliefs/reality. For example, a religious person sees a UFO, and says UFO's are really Satan's deception and are not extraterrestrials.

I have not witnessed much debate on this forum about Swerdlow's hyperspace techniques and if they work or not. Actually, I read a threat recently about someone who admitted they were skeptical about it all, and their perspective changed once he was able to communicate with his oversoul.

However, Stewart's Q&A section usually has many cruel critics. One person stated the Language of Hyperspace DVD was a waste of money and it didn't work, and that person called Stewart a conman. I think this has more to do with cultural/mainstream conditioning than anything however. Once something is engrained into your mind, it is difficult to remove all traces of it so you can experience something radically different. I personally take the positive testimonies of doctors, scientists, illuminati members, etc. on Swerdlow's work more seriously.
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#15
I believe in God. I am also what I would say is *gasp* a Christian. I believe that what I have been taught about God is not all there is. I know that I will never understand what my GOD is until I have completed my journey. Yet my journey may not be anothers persons cup of tea. Its all spiritual, to me. I believe in more than the mundane.

AstroJewels, your description of what you have experienced when you encounter athiests is exactly a person very close to me that had many heart-wrenching childhood dramas. He is cold and bitter at times; very analytical, almost psychic about people and their motivations. Yet he is very smart and very reasonable and very matter-of-fact. Brutally honest, and could care less of the affect it has on another. Thats just how he is. Regardless, he is a very good friend of mine.

Life is a path we all travel at different speeds and we are all here on a personal journey of truth. Whatever really matters about life is subjective and a personal experience for us all. I try not to judge.
I just feel good knowing my belief is what works for me.
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#16
Yes Andrea I agree, we all must find a comfort zone of truth that allows us to be the individual without having to be something else for others, you should not gasp at your beliefs ever, and it is within you, part of you so you should be proud. the atheists I speak of are friends, we only see them a couple times a year, but yes he had some heavy childhood issues that I feel created him to be a believer in his philosophy of you are born, then you die and get rid of any emotions that hold you here. The bottom line is that I would not want us to all have the same ideas because I have only ever learned from the differences we all have.
Totally agree GeeGee, its all about acceptance and also tolerance and being non-judgmental. Also that you have to experience some things to truly get the total understanding of it, and how you come out of that is what type of person you are within.
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#17
Astrojewels Wrote:The bottom line is that I would not want us to all have the same ideas because I have only ever learned from the differences we all have.
I agree to an extent. If we all had the same ideas there would be no innovation or uniqueness about anyone. However, if knowledge about the astral realms, hyperspace, alien races, etc. were an established mainstream fact, life would be possibly be much better on this planet. People would re-think the decisions they make in their lives, because it would echo an eternity.
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#18
Yes I agree this is true that people would not make the choices they do if they understood universal energy, and it is also the people who actually have the ability to teach this area of awareness that need to change, I find that the majority of main stream have the answer “I believe but don’t live my life around it” they are more open minded than one might think. If the knowledge was more accessible there would be more main stream people interested, but main stream could not fit this type of education into their budget. The reptilian nature within the human is still very much at large; too many people want control and domination.
The universal frequency is changing and small steps is what it takes to make great change, I can only say from where I am in down unda land, that things are defiantly changing here, my daughters school education has done a complete flip since I was at school and they are teaching many great things besides standard education, so I am very faithful in how we will evolve on a spiritual level.
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