Christians Opposing the Illuminati...

[GeeGee]

Is it just me, or isn't this concept just a litle ironic?

I just watched a video on youtube of Fitz Springmeier speaking on the Illuminati and mind-control, and I couldn't help but notice the contradiction. I wonder if he's ever suspected that his religion just MAY be a form of mind-control. I still think it's great that he acknowledges the manipulation and control and wishes to defeat it, but isn't he technically still supporting them if he's buying their product(religion)?

[Astrojewels]

GeeGee,
I agree, yet these speakers do not put themselves in the same ‘group’ as a standard Christian, there are plenty out there that talk of reptilians, illuminati but still consider life to be that devil versus god concept, sherry Shriner is another example.
The Christians do get a lot of information out into the general population, and many people take their first step of truth through Christianity, and then move on from there.
Some people are extremely knowledgeable yet trapped within an energy to keep them under that threshold of  controlled/self control.

[GeeGee]

That is very true Astrojewels. Some of them do tend to think they're better or more informed than your average Christian. I do not blame them for speaking out against the Illuminati and still being Christian, because belief systems do not change over night. It takes years of experience, research, and experimentation before a belief system can be changed. However, they are still being controlled whether they believe it or not.

[Andrea]

I dont agree Gee Gee. Just because a person has a belief does not mean they are being controlled. Does your belief system, whatever that may be, mean you are being controlled?

[GeeGee]

I'm just going by what Stewart is saying. If he is correct in stating religion is mind-control, then Christians who participate in religious rituals are also under mind-control.

My belief system does not allow me to be controlled. I do not adhere to doctrine or the word of religious texts.

[AndrewX]

Stewart said what?:discust:

 

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[Mercy Now]

GeeGee, You say you are "just going by what Stewart says". Look at what you are saying .
I would ask what does GeeGee say? After reading or hearing what others say how does it resonate with you and your experience?
I'd be very careful of the guru inclination no matter whose material you are digesting.

[GeeGee]

I think religion is mind-control. When you really look at it, that's what it is. I was a Christian from birth until 16 years of age, and if that wasn't mind-control, I don't know what is.

I said "just going by what Stewart says" because he is quite knowledgeable on mind-control & programming.

[Mercy Now]

I agree that religion can be and usually is a type of mind control.  What  I think you are missing is that religion does not have to be of a spiritual nature.For example it can be a teaching like that which Stewart or L.Ron Hubbard or others would  teach.

A  used car salesman can be knowledgable about cars but I would have the car checked out by someone else anyway.

[Astrojewels]

I agree, my belief system has allowed me to have control of who/which information I like to absorb, I also believe that no ‘one’ person is educated to teach the world, you learn best from all, I have said many times you take one page from each book and write your own! What I know today is the collective knowledge from non-religious people, Catholics, Christians, Muslims, new age people, everyday people with no belief system and the icing on the cake for me was a very high degree freemason, whom spent many hours in our restraunt talking, and although I totally oppose his belief, he still stands at one of the most intelligent men I have ever come across in my life, you could say it was like dancing with the devil!
I also feel that a person that does not force their religion/belief system on you does have that energy in a different form, compared to those who say you are a devil if you do not follow, or become agitated when you begin to ask questions, that is 100% mind control.