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Congress clears historic health care bill
#11
I would love to see that documentary.

This, so called, health bill is not a plan in which the government handles people's health costs. You still need to get insurance coverage either through an employer or a private plan, or Medicaid if you are eligible , or Medicare for those over 65 and the disabled, for which a premium is charged monthly. It is not like Universal Health care like other countries have.

The governments claim to fame is insurance companies cannot refuse coverage to an applicant because of pre-existing conditions, parents can have coverage on employer health plans for their children to age 26, so they say now everyone can have health insurance. In reality, its not that simple.

Yes, small businesses will suffer and some will close because they are being forced to provide expensive health insurance to all employees, even part time workers. The unemployed must have insurance, so if they are not eligible for Medicaid, they must purchase the insurance. If the government has a cheap plan for this, I haven't heard about it yet. Health insurance is mandatory and if a person does not have it there is $1500. fine.

There is so much more. I just feel our legislaters sold us out. I've been hearing about the sweatheart deals these congressmen got to vote yes. Congressman Stupec who held out with other Democrats for abortion changes, caved and was awarded something like $100M for a airports in his state. There are many others.

The majority of the people in this country did not want this bill but we seem to have reached a point in which the government does not listen to the people anymore.  There is more to this bill than health care.  It has to do with government control.

 
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#12
its only going to get worse before it gets better
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#13
While looking for the documentary mentioned above, I found one at this site.

topdocumentaryfilms.com/fall-of-the-republic-the-presidency-of-barack-obama/

I haven't watched the entire video yet. It's a NWO with Obama.
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#14
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/fall-of-t...ack-obama/ 




This should make it easier.  I couldn't get it to work before. :)icon_doh:D
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#15
Bluemoon,

This is the page for that interview, I ‘think’ it can be downloaded, you can try it, the one I watched was made in February this year, it focus on a year from Obama being elected and this guy, Simon Schama has followed him from the start, because whilst looking I kept getting the one from the election, but you can try this- I hope its the right one!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2010/02/100210_obamas_america_part_one.shtml

 

 

what is the solution to your heath crisis, is it so large that it can not be fixed?
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#16
Thanks AJ. I'll look at the one you cited.

To answer your question, nothing is impossible. The lawmakers took a strange approach, but the right committee of experts should be able to come up with something that won't bankrupt the country. Or, take power away from free enterprise, who will suffer great losses with this.

Already suits have been filed by 11 states, stating this Bill is unconstitutional. There are reports of people vandalizing and threatening cpngressmen and their offices because they are so angry at them for voting for this bill. I don't condone violence. The people sound very frustrated that they made many attempts to their congressmen to vote NO and they were ignored. There were peaceful demonstrations at the Capitol building and they were ignored. Many travelled some distance to be there.

Passing the Bill was a done deal and the politicians totally disregarded what their constituents, who voted for them, wanted. I saw one poll that said 75% of the population were opposed.
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#17
I hope that is the right one Bluemoon, but you might not like it, apparently the US citizens do not like the way this guy portrays your country, and it is always interesting to see how outsiders view you as a nation. The one thing I did find interesting is how each president had their different views on what actually makes your country- the farmers against the wall streeters!

I think what this bill has been successful at is ‘feeding’ the illuminati agenda, creating conflict and confusion within each nation, it would not be easy for anyone to come up with one answer that would suit the large population you have, it is a difficult situation that your country is in.    
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Quote:I think what this bill has been successful at is ‘feeding’ the illuminati agenda, creating conflict and confusion within each nation
 
I agree
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