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Congress clears historic health care bill
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  By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 1 min ago

WASHINGTON – Summoned to success by President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled Congress approved historic legislation Sunday night extending health care to tens of millions of uninsured Americans and cracking down on insurance company abuses, a climactic chapter in the century-long quest for near universal coverage.

Widely viewed as dead two months ago, the Senate-passed bill cleared the House on a 219-212 vote. Republicans were unanimous in opposition, joined by 34 dissident Democrats.

Obama watched the vote in the White House's Roosevelt Room with Vice President Joe Biden and about 40 staff aides. When the long sought 216th vote came in — the magic number needed for passage — the room burst into applause and hugs. An exultant president exchanged a high-five with his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel.

A second, smaller measure — making changes in the first — was lined up for passage later in the evening. It would then go to the Senate, where Democratic leaders said they had the votes to pass it.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the legislation awaiting the president's approval would extend coverage to 32 million Americans who lack it, ban insurers from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and cut deficits by an estimated $138 billion over a decade. If realized, the expansion of coverage would include 95 percent of all eligible individuals under age 65.

For the first time, most Americans would be required to purchase insurance, and face penalties if they refused. Much of the money in the bill would be devoted to subsidies to help families at incomes of up to $88,000 a year pay their premiums.

Far beyond the political ramifications — a concern the president repeatedly insisted he paid no mind — were the sweeping changes the bill held in store for millions of individuals, the insurance companies that would come under tougher control and the health care providers, many of whom would face higher taxes.

Crowds of protesters outside the Capitol shouted "just vote no" in a futile attempt to stop the inevitable taking place inside a House packed with lawmakers and ringed with spectators in the galleries above.

Across hours of debate, House Democrats predicted the larger of the two bills, costing $940 billion over a decade, would rank with other great social legislation of recent decades.

"We will be joining those who established Social Security, Medicare and now, tonight, health care for all Americans, said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, partner to Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in the grueling campaign to pass the legislation.

"This is the civil rights act of the 21st century," added Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the top-ranking black member of the House.

Republicans readily agreed the bill would affect everyone in America, but warned repeatedly of the burden imposed by more than $900 billion in tax increases and Medicare cuts combined.

"We have failed to listen to America," said Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, leader of a party that has vowed to carry the fight into the fall's midterm elections for control of Congress.

The final obstacle to the bill's passage was cleared at mid-afternoon when Obama and Democratic leaders reached a compromise with anti-abortion lawmakers whose rebellion had left the outcome in doubt. The White House announced he would issue an executive order pledging that no federal funds would be used for elective abortion, satisfying Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan and a handful of like-minded lawmakers.

A spokesman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops expressed skepticism that the presidential order would satisfy the church's objections.

Republican abortion foes also said Obama's proposed order was insufficient, and when Stupak sought to counter them, a shout of "baby killer" could be heard coming from the Republican side of the chamber.

The measure would also usher in a significant expansion of Medicaid, the federal-state health care program for the poor. Coverage would be required for incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level, $29,327 a year for a family of four. Childless adults would be covered for the first time, starting in 2014.

The insurance industry, which spent millions on advertising trying to block the bill, would come under new federal regulation. They would be forbidden from placing lifetime dollar limits on policies, from denying coverage to children because of pre-existing conditions and from canceling policies when a policyholder becomes ill.

Parents would be able to keep children up to age 26 on their family insurance plans, three years longer than is now the case.

A new high-risk pool would offer coverage to uninsured people with medical problems until 2014, when the coverage expansion would go into high gear.

For the president, the events capped an 18-day stretch in which he traveled to four states and lobbied more than 60 wavering lawmakers in person or by phone to secure passage of his signature domestic issue. According to some who met with him, he warned that the bill's demise could cripple his still-young presidency.

After more than a year of political combat, Democrats piled superlative upon superlative across several hours of House debate.

Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York read a message President Franklin Roosevelt sent Congress in 1939 urging lawmakers to address the needs of those without health care, and said Democrat Harry Truman and Republican Richard Nixon had also sought to broaden insurance coverage.

Republicans attacked the bill without let-up, warning it would harm the economy while mandating a government takeover of the health care system.

"The American people know you can't reduce health care costs by spending $1 trillion or raising taxes by more than one-half trillion dollars. The American people know that you cannot cut Medicare by over one-half trillion dollars without hurting seniors," said Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich.

"And, the American people know that you can't create an entirely new government entitlement program without exploding spending and the deficit."

Obama has said often that presidents of both parties have tried without success to achieve national health insurance, beginning with Theodore Roosevelt early in the 20th century.

The 44th president's quest to succeed where others have failed seemed at a dead end two months ago, when Republicans won a special election for a Massachusetts Senate seat, and with it, the votes to prevent a final vote.

But the White House, Pelosi and Reid soon came up with a rescue plan that required the House to approve the Senate-passed measure despite opposition to many of its provisions, then have both houses pass a fix-it measure incorporating numerous changes.

To pay for the changes, the legislation includes more than $400 billion in higher taxes over a decade, roughly half of it from a new Medicare payroll tax on individuals with incomes over $200,000 and couples over $250,000. A new excise tax on high-cost insurance policies was significantly scaled back in deference to complaints from organized labor.

In addition, the bills cut more than $500 billion from planned payments to hospitals, nursing homes, hospices and other providers that treat Medicare patients. An estimated $200 billion would reduce planned subsidies to insurance companies that offer a private alternative to traditional Medicare.

The insurance industry warned that seniors would face sharply higher premiums as a result, and the Congressional Budget Office said many would return to traditional Medicare as a result.

The subsidies are higher than those for seniors on traditional Medicare, a difference that critics complain is wasteful, but insurance industry officials argue goes into expanded benefits.

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Sorry..Can't agree with this Bill. Too many issues tucked in that have nothing to do with health care. Also, since when has any government program done well and not gone bankrupt resulting in higher taxes. Govt. has partial management of car industry, banking, (due to bailouts) and insurance is next with this bill. Their involvement could get stronger over time. Now health care. They even managed to get Student Loans involved.

There will be no more private loans or loans thru banks. All student loans will have to go through the government. This is all in the health care bill. Big Mistake in my opinion. Next job for Obama will be to legalize all illegal immigrants. He seems very determined to fulfill his agenda.
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I don't agree with either. I see it as government as usual. They never do anything that benefits people.
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I personally do not fully understand your politics in the US, and I agree that it seems to be a very large can of worms, but can someone explain to me the basics of the whole idea of this bill? I have never understood why you all have to pay so much in medical insurance and why it costs so much to be injured or sick.
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First of all, the US has a population of about 350 M so its hard to compare it with countries who have Universal Health care if their population is much lower. Canada has Gov. controlled health care but they have about 88 M people. It makes a difference. (Yes, health care in this country is expensive and insurance premiums are too high) but the quality of care seems to be good. Incidently there is health care for those who can't afford any. They are covered by Medicaid.

Currently, If you have a job loss, the employer is required to keep you on their group health plan for about 18 months at the group plan monthly fee. When that runs out, you must apply for Medicaid or get private health care if you don't qualify. Items in this Bill are just comming out now. They haven't been publicized to much.

Do we need health care revision? I would say yes. However the Bill the Congress just passed is not the one. It is full of unrelated issues, it will cost more than this country can afford to pay, it requires all employers to supply expensive insurance to their employees which for small businesses could be a hardship. From some things I've read, the gov. has the right to audit and review the businesses books. The Bill is full of side items that most of public is not aware of. It has complete government control which is never a good thing these days.

Many of the government leaders have worked really hard for a year to get this through because originally not even the congress was in favor it. There has been a lot of pressure and arm twisting, and favors given out to buy votes. If it was so good, why did they have to work so hard to get it passed.?

Too much government intervention for my taste. It isn't health care reform, it's the big picture I don't like.

I don't know if this helps AJ. It's pretty complicated to put into words. If you want to know anything specific, ask the question and if I can answer it , I'll try.
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Thanks Bluemoon, that did explain a lot, you do have a very large population, and I understand the concerns, however you also have a very high unemployment rate and low wages, how are people supposed to live on such low earnings and pay so much insurance?

There is always madness behind the method from governments pushing any type of new law, and usually a can of hidden worms, so do you think this bill is to push out small business? Obama is not so popular these days compared to when he was on the campaign trail! Government translates to ‘Govern-men’ and the t turns into a hammer….
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While I don't agree with everything that's in this health care bill I think it's still better than doing nothing at all. At least now everyone will be able to get insurance.
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do you think the population is going to decrease majorly in the US? now that there is free healthcare if your sick theyll give some lie and you end up dying faster or some random fu*k up. fu*k this bill because it gives everyone a free chance to get injected with stupidness or free pharma drugs. AND the ones that cant afford insurance dont get a chance? or am i wrong? please correct me if i am. i do also think that theyre trying to push out the small businesses. what is this?
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They have been pushing out small business for a long time, and eventually there will be none, small business’s are independent and more customer focused, big business- big money- robotic employees!

I watched a documentary that was called Obama’s American dream, it was from the UK, I cant find a link for it because I would have liked you guys from the US to view it and comment, but it was a very interesting show about your country and the whole history of the problems you have.
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ive seen it a while back. but if i find the link i got it from also ill post it.
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