David Icke

[Free]

Why would DI moderators whether voluntary or paid have a vested interest in deleting threads exposing Stewart etc..and his agenda off of the DI forum?

Because it would look bad if David was endorsing con artists. So they have to cover David's ass and make sure no one knows stew is a con artist.

When things are just too fu*king nuts over at the Swindlers and people are finally jumping ship, what happens? All of a sudden on the scene comes Sugar Cane and Lying Horrorwitz, on the Vinny Eastwood drag and drug show, kind of backing them up, at least as far as they can take it without loosing their careers. How did that happen? Go figure.

All the world is a staged event, including them.

[Jacaranda]

My own observation is that Stewart and Janet endorse anyone who also endorses them. Quid pro quo. But behold, should you ever criticize them in public, they will slander you in the most despicable ways.

I cannot say at this time that all these conspiracy speakers, Stewart Swerdlow, David Icke, Alex Jones, and others are working together on a specific agenda. However, considering that their greatest problem is credibility, they will support another and even accept the possibility of their allies being wrong on occasion. And indeed, all of these speakers tend to modify parts of their core message when it suits them on occasion. It's business, after all.

It also shows that these speakers are completely detached from what they talk about.

[Free]

What is David Icke (and others) really DOING? Repeating information in the conspiracy business, or what? A news repeater before the business, now a news repeater inside the business?

I suggest what really makes any changes on this planet has very little to do with them anyway. I see no reason to join their movements, other than for some kind of personal entertainment, and perhaps that's good enough for some.

If you compare the Swindler teachings with what Icke is promoting it is fairly obvious they are quite contradictory. Icke wants gatherings and mass meditations and promote the love sign and other symbols and songs etc. that according to the Swindlers is Illuminati deceit, mind control and programming. What's up with that? It should make people wonder, and perhaps that's the point.

What Icke and others started talking about was mentioned way before by for example Alex Collier, and chasing Illuminati with a stick won't help anyway.

Hyperspace is not an "end station", more of a language, or technology. Archetypes were discussed more originally by Carl Jung, but then again, stealing with pride is the name of the game in the business.

[PurplePebble]

[user=1699]Free[/user] wrote:

What is David Icke (and others) really DOING? Repeating information in the conspiracy business, or what? A news repeater before the business, now a news repeater inside the business?

I suggest what really makes any changes on this planet has very little to do with them anyway. I see no reason to join their movements, other than for some kind of personal entertainment, and perhaps that's good enough for some.

If you compare the Swindler teachings with what Icke is promoting it is fairly obvious they are quite contradictory. Icke wants gatherings and mass meditations and promote the love sign and other symbols and songs etc. that according to the Swindlers is Illuminati deceit, mind control and programming. What's up with that? It should make people wonder, and perhaps that's the point.

What Icke and others started talking about was mentioned way before by for example Alex Collier, and chasing Illuminati with a stick won't help anyway.

Hyperspace is not an "end station", more of a language, or technology. Archetypes were discussed more originally by Carl Jung, but then again, stealing with pride is the name of the game in the business.

I think the contradictions serve to confuse people....confused people are easier to control...like the different factions you might find in Christianity for example....but conspiracy theory based.



Yukesam, the last couple of pages on the deleted thread were not put up, because I can't find the copies. In those last couple of pages I put up the LOL post my candid opinion of it and a link to this forum explaining what was going on with regard to the exposing etc...there are a couple of people on the forum that remember seeing it.

If anything it drew attention to the this forum, a good thing.

Not an ego trip ffs.

I am anonymous.

You have always had my support and I will continue to support you and your efforts/success in exposing S/J etc...if you need it, maybe you don't.

Either way.....

I am not going to fight you over DI bullsh*t and if people don't agree with me, they dont have to. I dont see why me talking about this subject is that big of a deal...99% of what I have contributed has been on SS threads etc...


Edited .....The points that I have made are valid, based on fact. It isn't about what I feel about the subject.

that's it.

[yukesam]

PP, I know you have valid points on DI and we all appreciate how you nail things regarding  SJ. Everything is all good PP. Keep up the good work. We will just pm sometimes.

[xanthas]

What is David Icke (and others) really DOING? Repeating information in the conspiracy business, or what? A news repeater before the business, now a news repeater inside the business?

What Icke and others started talking about was mentioned way before by for example Alex Collier, and chasing Illuminati with a stick won't help anyway.

Hi all,
I haven't been on this forum for donkeys ages. It looks...different... Uhm, I was contacted by one of SS's victims (...sigh...), Jacaranda, and kind of came back here to read his story.

Naturally, the DI - SS link is a 'business arrangement' but [color="#0055aa"]Free[/color][sub][sup][/sup][/sub], your comment here got my attention because I've only just about 'stumbled' upon Alex Collier and I've been wondering if Icke might've stolen info from Alex (it wouldn't surprise me one bit as DI's been known to plagiarise other people's work as well, putting it out there as his own).

I'm not sure what the take on Alex here is but I found him absolutely real and genuine. I only came across Alex the last few weeks but it really resonated very strongly with what he says about the Andromedans (particularly because of my own experiences that are completely 'in line' vibrationally through my own inner journeys, and even going back to my childhood experiences). I've never been that much into DI - I sort of 'tap' into him now and again but he's not anything like SS - a badass just as well, but still...

I remember when he came to visit me, SS was discussing the 'possibilities' of "working" with DI. A few months later (or whatever - I can't remember the precise time frame), he popped up on DI's site. I blasted SS on DI's site, too and that section was later shut down (...) - 'bad for bu$ine$$' - I s'pose...

[Richard]

Hello xanthas, you shocked me making a post today. It has been a long time since you were here. I agree with you about Alex Collier. He seems to be one of the few honest people out there.

[xanthas]

Hi Richard,
Well... To be honest... I've just seen a page here where I've been blasted... Uhmmm, I must've had the right sense to stay away...

I've worked a lot on myself...and, more than anything - I got rid of my ado mum (the worst psychic vampire I ever stumbled upon - worse than Stewart...and that says a lot...). I'm a lot better since and, I'm actually in a very good space these days. It was difficult, very, very hard and, yes, painful. But I'm good now. First time this feeling of being truly myself.

Which is probably why I found Alex.

Alex is amazing. It just blows me away - very strong vibration when I hear him speak. So deep, so true, no BS. And from the heart. Neither Icke nor SS (!!!) come from the heart - it's all 'left brain' stuff.

From my journeys... I know from my own journeys that what Alex says is true. If no-one else 'buys' into that, that's fine, but for me I've seen and experienced some of the things he mentions...from the time I was a child.

I look forward to the 5th...;) I'm glad I found his info - because there is still 'plenty' of time to prepare now. The world is going crazy, really...

Insane. And it makes me sad. I can't "rejoice" in any of the destruction that is happening as we speak.

[Richard]

Hi Richard,
Well... To be honest... I've just seen a page here where I've been blasted... Uhmmm, I must've had the right sense to stay away...

I hope you weren't offended by anything I said. If you were I apologize for that. I remember you left here it was because discussions about Icke got pretty heated but I was sad things got to that point because I feel you're a very knowledgeable person and you have a lot of info to share. Hopefully we can put the past behind us and you'll stick around here this time. :)

[xanthas]

Thank you Richard, I gladly accept. And, honestly, I think that if I would've not felt where I am now, I wouldn't have been 'led' back here, if you know what I mean... We all have to heal however which way we can and at our pace. People like Icke don't necessarily get us there in the best fashion possible. There are more BS artists out there now than there were a few years ago.

It's a 'sign of the times' I think (...!...). People buying into this whole 2012 hype...very troubling... Talk about mass suicide programming! I think Collier really has it down pat (via the Andromedans) when he says the we need to work towards

[color="#0055aa"]A responsible freedom of self-determination, becoming truly self-confident and free - to become unconditionally responsible for ourselves without being coerced by some other (outside) authority.[/color]

That to me sounds so deeply true and completely relevant to our world nowadays... It's what will help us break free from inner programming and conditioning (instilled, absorbed or learned). That's why, too, I think, a lot of people are not that particularly keen on going down that path because it's serious hard work, very, very challenging...but really, it I feel it's the only way forward if we are to get to the next (5th) level...

Another thing that I noted down from his lectures is: "Remember to let go of what we perceive as mistakes we made, and the regret that comes with it."

What struck me is, that he would say that he didn't want to come back here (I can sooo relate to that !) because of how people treat each other - cruel, and psychologically violent towards not only ourselves but also with each other (as a consequence, so-to-speak). As the saying goes: 'As with-in so with-out'.

In closing I just would like to put this here in contrast to DI's and SS's garbage 'spirituality' (twisting our souls and minds, and, our energetic vortexes). It's a genuine 'opener' to allow ourselves to heal without destroying ourselves in the process:

"The love that you withhold - towards yourself - and towards others, is the pain you carry..."