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Dealing With Psychopathic Elitists, Lash, Sheridan
#11
(04-28-2014, 05:49 PM)Filter Wrote: ...In any event, it's clear to me that John Lash is a dangerous infiltrator into Gnosticism.

He for example claims to be an expert on the Nag Hammadi Codices, but he is not telling it how it is. 
He is lying and distorting to suit his own agenda. He certainly is not the leading expert on these Texts at all.
There are several others out there who deal with those same texts, but don't have the platform in the alternative media that John Lash has been given. He can peddle there that he is THE expert on Nag Hammadi and Gnosticism.... While he clearly is not.

Laurence Caruana, Gilles Quispel, Elaine Pagels, Stevan Davies, Karen King, Marvin Meyer are some other people who have translated those texts - they differ significantly from what John Lash makes of it, to start with.
John Lash stands out, as the only one... To me he is not a Gnostic, rather he is a New Ager. 

Aliens, demons or archons ... First of all, it seems to me that there are different definitions out there of these 3 terms. So, what exactly is an "alien", what is a "demon" and what is an "archon" ... people have differing notions of these terms.
In any event, I am sure that the problem goes much deeper than just the players we see on stage.
I also think that these players on stage can be replaced by others quite easily. If you remove the current ones, others are put in that place that are of the same category ... or worse. That's pretty much what happened with EVERY so-called revolution in history. That's also something one should take into account in this, I think... Every revolution in history has been artificially triggered by the powers that be, whoever or whatever they are.
I think it's rather naive to think that by removing the world leaders, everything will be alright, or at least bettering on this Planet and for ourselves...

The Sages taught to come out of the world, to dissolve the ego, to go within and to detach, as the ONLY real and lasting remedy. Non-attachment.

Btw, I have no idea why John Lash has added that Kali narrative to his portfolio, and I don't know much about that character, so I'll have to leave in the middle what that is exactly about. It's certainly not in any Gnostic text whatsoever, it's only John Lash that comes up with that.
The interchangeability of those terms is precisely why castigating someone for believing in archons and not aliens is a bit insipid.

And just because all revolutions have been orchestrated by tptb doesn't mean they all must be from here forth.

I think what makes something NEW AGE is the complete apathy and unwillingness to do anything but meditate about things, and he does neither of those.   His discussion of actions is precisely what puts him OUT of the new age movement.

What is his agenda? Do you think.
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#12
(04-28-2014, 04:24 PM)Elizabeth Wrote: Trying to find a way to turn the tables is viscerally satisfying I agree and I certainly don't require a lecturer to have 1) any answers at all to this brutal predicament we're in, in order to find their material worthwhile.  I also don't require presenters to have 2) dates or timelines correct and 3) I'm all for killing the psychopaths with my bare hands if I could actually pull it off!  I'm easy-going with most presenters' information and am well able to dismiss minor clinckers.

Two points of Lash are NOT minor clinckers. The ET/ED situation which is trivialized AND the Kali situation whereby she is whitewashed into benevolence. These ARE BIGGIES!

I'm not interested in tearing those two down (for the sake it) but in exposing their hypocricy and reminding people that whomever gets the attention of the video radio talk show circuit is on the inside of the deception to lead others to a permutation of the New World Religion. Lash has taken great interpretive liberties with Nag Hammadi codexes as well as other Gnostic sources.

NO WHERE DO THOSE SOURCES SAY THAT human beings will be invoking Kali in order to help overcome the Psychopaths. So, why does he always get pushed to the front as the representative lecturer of Gnosticism...his rendition of it unless he's serving  2.5 to 3.0 net of entrapment (reference to Matthew Delooze's 2nd netter trap).

The Gnostic Truth Guy while being "stuck in abstractions" as you say millipodium, is closer to the actual truth of the material.
He personally walks the talk on spiritual purification level, is offering solace to the afflicted and pins and needles to the ones who need to be afflicted through his writings. There really IS NOT a hell of a lot we CAN do to 'power-grab' this planet back in human favor.

Doctor Chiappalone although TGTG and the Doc and Amitakh wouldn't be able to stand being near each other for five seconds...also walk the talk in the form of keeping your spirit and will clean and strong.

Opening oneself up to astral entities of the like that hang around Kali is surefire danger. That's what he's promoting.

In part 3, Sheridan started spouting tired and academically weak "psycho-babble" arguments about stress/archonic deception playing into dubious contactee/abductee recountings.

There is an outrageous, outright dismissal of the serious study of UFOlogy. The links I posted above are only a tiny bit of data.

John Lash knows full well the history of Kali and that blood sacrifices have been offered and still are being offered to her since the beginning. His declaring that his deities don't require sacrifice is a meaningless statement. He's being willfully naive, deceptive or both while encouraging others to seek her support. That's reckless pied pipership. Purple Pebble has written a bit on Lash too that is worth reading.
 

I think if there is to be a one world religion it will definitely involve the 'abrahamic' faiths, and he is definitely opposed to all that crap.

Maybe kali has been maligned by the revisionists, as they have maligned everything.  Is it possible?

Maybe the et phenomenon does have a lot of bullshit in it. Is that possible?   I just think to have such a heated and full dismissal of a person would required knowing everything.  Do you know everything?

I listen to all these people and try to digest it.  It's all unproven and unprovable. 

I frankly think your rules like "anyone who gets any attention must be a propagandist" are just simplistic and misguided. 

I think there's something you're not telling us.

Maybe it's his defense of healthy male sexuality?  Many feminist types can't stand that, because all sex is rape, don't you know.

What is it really, Elizabeth?
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#13
Lol - that must be it! rofl  I tried...

It's important to define terms. Lash is disregarding UFO contactee/abductee research (of which there is plenty of hooey mixed into the batter there too just like e v e r y subject) and saying the whole thing is Archonic deception.

The problem with this (and why it's not insipid to put a fine point on it) is that much of the ET/ED information deals with EBEs, synthetic consciousness etc. A foreign and hostile ET race would naturally assume a psychopathic stance towards humans. They would also be able to chip, beam, mind control through specific brain zapping torture and mass mind control. There's also NO way for us to "remove THESE psychopaths" because we are dealing with intelligences who are more advanced technologically - not morally. For Lash to dismiss the ET/ED topic which has addressed much of this is curious.

His agenda in my book:

1) He and Sheridan are working for an offshoot of the NWR portion of the NWO.

2) Part of the NWR agenda is to grab as many human spirits as possible in order to anchor them in a demonic realm...enter Kali. That nasty deity and her minions will get the job done.

He's not innocent and he's not unaware, he's is not benevolent. Plus he's screwing with Gnosticism which has had that treatment in spades since the beginning. <<>> tptb want Gnosticism to be distorted and have annointed John Lash their poster boy to do so.
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#14
The UFO books got published, that must mean all those guys are one the inside of the propaganda machine.

How do you know TGTG is closer to the truth of things?

Really Elizabeth, you must possess ultimate knowledge to be the judge and jury on all this ephemera.  How exciting for you.
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#15
I think I see it.  The hope lash offers in believing that we can do something is what you don't like, it seems.  I base that on this. "There's also NO way for us to "remove THESE psychopaths" because we are dealing with intelligences who are more advanced technologically - not morally."

THat's a defeated attitude, and precisely why lash rejects some of the alien stuff.
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#16
I make myself clear that my opinion is my opinion. I do happen to believe what I'm saying and have put observation and thought into the John Lash topic for a few years (in particular). I watched the forum chatter on him a few years ago as devotees wondered where the h*ll he went. He whetted appetites on the snow leopard predator Shamanistic rite and then left everybody hanging. It's only then that I started to dig around.  I pulled from readings and my own knowledge about Kali and the pantheon of hindu gods and goddesses. Sh*t - this was ancient black magick he was peddling. wtf? Either he was being naive or...hmmmmm.

This is a forum for people to express their opinions. Your opinions are valid too. You aren't disrespected here and I certainly don't claim to know all. IMO Lash is dangerous and not to be trusted.
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#17
@millipodium

I think the agenda of John Lash is to mislead, and to lead astray; being one of the many pied pipers. 
I'm sure he misleads and lies about things... At least he states several things that are obviously not true and correct, with regard to the actual content as well as his own persona... 

"New Age" comes in many different shades. It's not a unitary current. New Age is for example the worship of the cosmos and this planet, and that is what Lash is (indirectly) doing, among other things. For example his cosmology is New Age, but he seems to cloak it somewhat, I'm thinking... It's certainly not Gnostic, so Lash is in reality not a Gnostic, despite of his own claims. That's contradictory. 
His strange claims on the Sun and Moon in combination with the Earth ... again totally non-Gnostic, rather satanic sun and moon worship.

From my perspective, he is selling New Age fantasies of a glorious new world here on Earth that will come when this and that will be done.  
Maybe you should pay some attention to how New Age thinking and conspiracy theory thinking are entwined in many places. Like a cocktail of New Age and conspiracy theory - you see that with many presenters, and clearly also with John Lash, as far as I'm concerned. 

"Alien" means stranger, "Archon" means ruler in Greek, and the etymology of "Demon" knows some varieties, it seems. So, yes, I think an alien could be a demon, and could be an archon. I don't really see why an "alien" would be more far out than for example an "archon" or a "demon"....
I think "evil spirits" and/or "evil beings" are better general terms to use in this, if that's what helps people to better understand matters like this. Then the question what they are and how they might look like is not immediately relevant.
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#18
Well.  If you guys feel he's dangerous that's what you feel.  Thanks for your sincere warnings.

And Elizabeth, sorry about the feminist crack.  It was beneath us.
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#19
(04-28-2014, 08:23 PM)millipodium Wrote: I think I see it.  The hope lash offers in believing that we can do something is what you don't like, it seems.  I base that on this. "There's also NO way for us to "remove THESE psychopaths" because we are dealing with intelligences who are more advanced technologically - not morally."

THat's a defeated attitude, and precisely why lash rejects some of the alien stuff.

True Gnosticism, not the Lash variety in which he says the the ending is open-ended, says that this error of this physical universe will be corrected. What can be salvaged or saved in the form of original spiritual energy, will be taken back to the divine realm. The evil ones will experience unpleasantness, the physical realm will witness hidden ugliness/evil coming to the surface. We're living in these times right now.

That's what I'm choosing to believe, and it's not defeatest to agree with that take.  Things have been wrong with the very set-up from the get go here in this lab experiment gone bad. Hierarchies, fleshly disease ridden bodies, the food chain, relentless suffering. I'm not a fan and never have been.

The Satanic inspired (CIA - black opers) "truther" groups are pushing the golden era idea. This appeals to most of the human survival instinct. If that doesn't come to pass then they'll happily rule in hell.

"Getting rid of the Psychopaths" is such a Quixotic idea. I'm not surprised that it hasn't been given scrutiny, because as Filter said, he's a backed and pushed agenda.

That's for getting this discussion going!
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#20
You have faith in something outside you, coming to the rescue, as it had been foretold.  Maybe he would say that that is like all the other religions that have a fated ending.  Where as the open-ended concept puts more of an onus on US TO DO SOMETHING.  I don't know what's TRUE.  It's honest of you to recognize that this is a belief choice you have made.   I tend to believe that there really is no fate, maybe from loving terminator too much, when she refused to accept the machine dominated future and carved into the picnic table.  "no fate"

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