(08-10-2013, 05:39 PM)Sovereign Wrote: I sort of hijacked this thread from Nelso hopefully I answered you question as well as others but I am on topic.
This is an interesting scenario people have mixed feelings on this even the Idaho Picker guy act like he was depressed and was really unsure and wish it were not true or a fake he was near speechless because he did not normally cover this stuff.
Any if that is if her scenario did not come true like harold camping many people are going to be mad especially the ones that put their RV and camper into a pit stuck some heavy wire too it and grounded it deep in the earth to created a Faraday Cage which essential is a Electromagnetic field where everthing inside is zero electromagetic since it goes all to earth ground. In the vaccum tube era they use to put Metal hollow tubes around vaccum to to sheild the from picking up unwanted signals adjacent to other tubes since it involves capacitance. I have seen one of those Faraday Copper Mesh Cages in an Engineering Tech Lab at Collins Radio or Rockwell Intl Space and Missles Group when i was apply for a job their in Cedar Rapids IA after I was layed off in 1979 as a production tech and floated around Cedar Rapids, IA up to 1985 moved by to Louisville Ky. Any way she told people to rent a bobcat meaning a Bob cat steer Rental or Bulldozer depending on model from Bobcat Enterprise their located in Ohio I guess their are rental locations in your town. The site says their is only 6 locations. She was remodeling homes at one point in her life so she seem to have used heavy construction vehicles herself.
I also check the site of the telescope she borrowed you pretty much have to be an alumni or post graduate I think to use it. As of yet I could not find the backdoor or the front door a place you can login. Looking at her photos you can see a website address attached such as fars as I can make out the website "http:gsss.stsci.edu/Acknowledgement/D" while she was supposedly using a remote telescope. The website http://gsss.stsci.edu/ MAST Catalogs and Surveys Group. what was in the header is this is Copyrite DSS Consortium in her picture while she had access to the telescope. The site says their stuff is Copywrited it makes that perfectly clear. I was at http://archive.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dss_form last night called The STScI Digitized Sky Survey where you can enter RA or Right Ascension and DEC Declination to get a photo of a particular area of the sky a remote controlled telescope would be better. You will have to spend quite a bit of time reading stuff. There are some Internet Telescope the are subscription based like the Bradford Robotic Telescope where people don't have know squat about astronomy or the jargon all you do is tell them what you want to view with up to 10 jobs. I need to be able to control the telescope using infared filter they had one of these up to 12 filters. Usually the best time to view the sky is in the winter time less heat distortion in fact professional astronmers know this they end up freezing their asses off because the those observatories have no heat what soever. The Only telescope I had was rather crude 6 inch reflector me and my dad worked on. we bought a kit from Edmund Scientific from New Jersey and raw plate glass two the main thick glass and thinner one was a facilator to enable us using various chemical powers like Rouge placed on the Thicker top portion of Glass and then place the thinner pice of glass on top both pices of glass are circular. The setup was place on a platform my dad made where you can walk 360 degrees around this thing. The Process you grind the mirro into a concave via grind motions of pushing the glass forward and back towards you rotate the glass begin to circumambulate and repeat the process and around you go latter at some point my dad built a machine to do this for us if sort of worked some of the time we had to watch it while it was in operation. At some point he build a focualt tester to test the mirrors forcal length to determine are we getting close or do have to some more work. Next gets sent off to have a silver coating put on the concave face. Later he build an aluminium frame with special implement to mount the mirror which at three adjustment screws to adjust tilt of this thing to adjust targeting it at the Eyepice Lens Mirror assembly. We did not have a finder scope so I mounted a small 3 inch reflector which had it own little finder scope to align the telescope to our target object we wanted to view. It did not have a clockdrive which would be motor driven to keep up with the earth rotation. When I was looking at the moon I had to contantly jerked telescope to get it back into view. Today Telescope or the more powerfull ones are mostly computer driven keying in the RA and DEC so the telescope moves to the target then drops back to track with the earths movement so the object is stationary while you view it.
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 (08-10-2013, 05:48 PM)Sovereign Wrote:(08-10-2013, 05:39 PM)Sovereign Wrote: I sort of hijacked this thread from Nelso hopefully I answered you question as well as others but I am on topic. I am an open minded individual and have been investigating Pattie Brassard Claims as many others have. Have downloaded the directory site she was supposedly at and her claim of using a satellite space telescope could not find how she could get in this is basically some kind of Archiving website of Astronomical Sky images taken with various telescopes and some probably satellite as well and archived on their severs most were black and white. Although many that have commented well if the biggest planet is 4 times the size of Jupiter then many proffesional as well as amateur atronomers would see it and report it since the our would Illuminate it or that we should already see have being witnessed by these planets recking havoc on the planets.
There is movie that was made in 1951 called When Worlds Collide about astronomers discovering a giant Star called Bellus and planet called Zyra is on a Collision course. Planet Zyra will cause a flyby and cause temporary earthquakes, volcanic activity and major flooding, They showed New York deep in water. The Star Bellus according to the Astronomers are convince Bellus the Star will crash into earth and destroy it so they frantically work on building a rocket ship and fly it to Zyra as their new home and land on it get out smell the air and that it is safe strange hollywood painting in the backdrop of Pyramids in the distant and one ancient building to one side end of movie. You can watch the full move on the internet. I have looked at her images and find many problems with them one is images of out of focused stars in the background while jupiter is sharpley focussed in a real telescope they are either all in perfect focus or they are all out of focus you can't have it both ways the front focused and the back defocused but only if in a Photoshop or Compter Graphics Program in what they call Depth Of Field or DOF their are plugings for PhotoShop for doing DOF to photos. I use Gimp2 for a lot of my computer graphics work did not see a DOF capability for it. Computer Graphics Programs can do the same using special coding to keep a objects near you focused while the objects in the back are seemily out of focus. A person by name CyberWarrior put out a pretty damaging video about her being someone who stole someone identity and he even claimed to save a posting posted by the daughter of the Real Pattie Brassard who died and posted on pattiebfines facebook warning other that this person is a fraud and took over my mothers identity now wears her cloths and lives off my farther SS but got deleted but CyberWarrior saved the facebook HTML to his hardisk is claiming that he/she/it is a fraud. I lot other people are heavily discussing on various forums I been reading their post. There is a amateur astronomer who heard one of the interviews by Pattie Brassard about the mini solar system so she claimed that will pass very soon near us so on Aug 7 /2013 he took his telescope out into the desert using a Sun filter attached to the eyepice of his telescope and did a time laspse photography of the sun as well as using his iphone to take video of the Sun over the filtered eyepice of the telescope and commented in the video see guys nothing but lens flare is his comment. [youtube]y-80lvRVqz0[/youtube] I tried this on 08/12/2013 near the evening with a Cannon Powershot A410 3.2 mega pixel camera zooming with a closeup picture as I can I did not see nothing. Trying to capture the sun without filtering can oversaturate your image and overload the CCD. I also have have a captureview CV2 made by Meade or Binocular Camera taking pictures what I see up real close when the object is faraway. Like taking pictures of planes underneath and on it side when passing over me and can see more detail of the object. I tried this with the sun oversaturating my image tried Sunglass filtering produced to much flare elements like crosses. Then tried taking the binoculars and focusing the sun on some paper for an image no result that is I see no 2nd Sun or that would be considered a 2nd Sun. I remember I did this when I was young with a 6 inch reflector pointed to the Sun put the paper over the telescope eyepice but first had to line it up using the star finder or little scope on my 3 inch Reflector I had attacked to the 6 inch Reflector. Look in the starfinder while aim it at the sun real quick so I am not blined by the Sun put the paper over the telescope eyepice move it out a litte over the eyepice while I gently tugged at the telescope until I saw a bright light the sun comming out the eyepice then project an image of the sun unto the paper at that point I could see the sunspots and focused by moving the paper at more greater distance from the eyepice to focus the image. Way the 6 inch Reflector works is it the botom of the telescope is a 6 inch concave mirror that magnify light of obect and reflect it back to 45 degree angled mirror that reflects it straight up into an eyepice assembly with the lens that can be changed out for different Magnification one being a barlow lens for zooming in more. I was pretty much into atronomy in my youth as well as other thing spent other times of my youth looking into a microscope. I don't have a Telescope at the moment in my very younger years I had access to 3inch Reflector telescope I got for christmas and latter 6 inch Reflector Telescope that was home made by me and my Dad who passed away on Labor day 1988. With all the activity going on Such As FEMA buying up food in large quanities for purpose of keeping people from getting any, Foreign Troops on the ground, FEMA camps fully staffed something is up it seems their is a lot of disinfo comming out all of sudden just use your own judgment and discernment. Its not easy to not fall for something but that is part of learning how to discern and if it is not adding up in your mind then you know it is false. Just Verified and Confirmed Major Source of he/her/it images from software from http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/Home.aspx I just loaded it unto my computer with the Mars Tour startup everyting matches. Microsoft Worldwide Telescope in the window header. In he/her/it photos he/her/it has croped out the Microsoft Worldwide Telescope Header in he/her/it screen capture claiming he/her/it got them from an actual Satellite Telescope he/she/it claimed to remotely control. He/Her/It has been outed by this very software. When you start of up the software tour their is a voice narration by some guy explaining different things about the software and the tour. Also the MWT has a Telescope interface using ASCOM software that has to be installed on your Desktop or Laptop computer to communicate with your Telescope that has the proper computer interface standard to point your Telescope using servo motors to point it to the star, M classed object or planet since it has a option name Telescope you click on in the MWT software.
Most of the imagery is copyrighted by DSS Consortium same copywrite is seen in Google Sky at the bottom. DSS Constortium images and Microsofts software needs to be alerted to copyright issues involving PattieBFine use by fraudulent means and not fair use. (08-12-2013, 06:39 PM)Sovereign Wrote: Just Verified and Confirmed Major Source of he/her/it images from software from http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/Home.aspx I just loaded it unto my computer with the Mars Tour startup everyting matches. Microsoft Worldwide Telescope in the window header. In he/her/it photos he/her/it has croped out the Microsoft Worldwide Telescope Header in he/her/it screen capture claiming he/her/it got them from an actual Satellite Telescope he/she/it claimed to remotely control. He/Her/It has been outed by this very software. When you start of up the software tour their is a voice narration by some guy explaining different things about the software and the tour. Also the MWT has a Telescope interface using ASCOM software that has to be installed on your Desktop or Laptop computer to communicate with your Telescope that has the proper computer interface standard to point your Telescope using servo motors to point it to the star, M classed object or planet since it has a option name Telescope you click on in the MWT software. I am currently browing through the http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...----/page9 Like I said the Telescope you can only control is your own personal computer controlled telescope connected to your DeskTop or Laptop using driver software called ASCOM to interface with the MWT software and your computer controled telescope. Everytime I go select with the MWT software to chose Telescope from the Telescope menu option it says I don't have ASCOM installed to control your telescope. Pattie or He/Her/It was caught saying this about ASCOM was her means to control a telescope maybe she had a computer controlled telescope and just making us believe she gained access to a top secret satellite telescope like the Hubble One really. And if she had actual computer controled telescope there is no evidence that I can see of actual telescope capture of some Astronomical images some case a live video capture. Like I say I have MWT | Mars Tour and World Wide Telescope icons on my desktop to explore any where in the Universe in a simulated way via computer graphics someone with actual imagery from DSS Consortiume Astronomical archives stiched together to form a simulated of Universe. I provided a link directly to MWT.org with the RA and DEC and it brought up the same object itself that Pattie he/her/it that in her pictures she is promoting as th 2nd Sun which looks like their are planets or something others or some think it is Nibiru. http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/wwtweb...1403894357 After you click on the above Link if it brings up a panel and load up in your browser in few seconds it will zoom to a fuzzy orange object then when the zoom finally slows down the object will slowly come into focus and you can zoom in more or out with a mouse wheel. This thing is near the Gemini Constellation and above the Orion Constellation. Has me Puzzled. As to the obect it is a screen capture from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digitized_Sky_Survey as old as dirt many say their is just no way to track it or to know exactly where it is now that is if it moved. But then on the other hand some think it is somekind of photo anomalie or glitch but other say you really can never be sure what it is. But then there are others that believe that Nibiru is near by and because of their passionate belief keep fanning the flames trying to get everybody to keep the discussion alive and convert other people into believers. I don't know if you have to preinstall any other software for it to work maybe it works with flash.I just tried the link from this post it comes up as red yellow sphere with stars or planets near it? 
08-13-2013, 08:20 AM
Sovereign, Thank you for doing this detective work on the Pattieb issue.
Anything is possible. I was told that the end of our cycle is another 200 years. But that does not mean this planet would be wrecked with a rogue planet. We probably have more chance of manufactured war doing more damage to us. I feel sorry for the many people that have wrecked their own lives over this. And the other doom days. A movie that is worth watching i think is. "Seeking a friend for the end of the world." Yes, THANK YOU Sovereign! You've put a lot of time into this and it is much appreciated. Your reasoning and links have been stellar. :D I've been looking with the naked eye ONLY at the sunrise and sunset sun using my own rendition of filters and I can't see another heavenly body next to it. Maybe I'm not in the right hemisphere to witness it? WHO KNOWS...lol.
~None of this disinfo is easy to discern because the operatives (mouthpieces) themselves are usually MK'd and 100% convinced of their own info. ~ That usually blows most people's minds how convinced and sincere the whistleblower appears which is why we take the time to humor them and the information in the first place. Again, thank you Sovereign for your time spent on this worthwhile project. It's not wise to 'knee-jerk' dismiss this stuff as so many would - we'll miss something that way. Using your gifts of discernment and breaking it down for us is helpful. The information from the original interview that (((CLUNKED))) for me was when Patty Bassard said that THE MOON IS NOT HOLLOW. That's not what I heard. Well, maybe it's been hollowed out with underground bases like the Earth has been but I was under the impression that it, "rang like a bell" when the lunar module landed on it. and the beat goes on... Agenda 21 is real. FEMA is not our friend. The human population is still farm-raised livestock (lightbearers) to be USED by the alien (lighteaters) for their own interests. We're certainly not out of the woods yet. The pins are being pulled out of newer and more sophisticated disinfo-granades. Just because this appears to be disinfo doesn't mean we shouldn't study it. People's LIVES HAVE ALREADY BEEN WRECKED a long time ago not by this type of information but by the constant tampering and undermining by superior intelligenced regressive beings. Ever Since this Person who he/her/it is identifying as Pattie Brassard who is Claimed to be really a guy named Patrick Brassard who has some issues when his mom died according to his sister went into her bedroom started wearing his mothers clothes and is now collecting SS from his father. But Cyberwarrior video goes into a lot more detail about the truth of this character before patrick quickly deletes the posting by Patrick Brassard Sister warning people to ignore her brother it off his face book. It is pretty bizare what CyberWarrior is claiming in his video.
CyberWarrior Video: [youtube]0ueBU6gNw8U[/youtube] There are people of all walkes of life seeing this, you got the Zeta Talk crowd that are distancing themselves from her. You got other gunning for her to take this person down and the other crowd that beleive in her disinformation. The crazy Pete Santilli Show thinks Pattie Brassard is genuine and the real deal after viewing another youtuber video who is claiming he has verified the 2nd Sun near our Sun in morning in Nevada Sky. Why does it have to be in the morning or the evening other then the excuse because of less intensity to the human eye plus at these extremes the atmosphere acts as both a lens and a filter at the same time which could introduce anomalies essentially some of the components for a camera less the CCD component for receiving and memory for storing but our eye is the equivalent CCD which has issues with producing Lens flares and when filters are used more lens flares and dont forget when clouds are out there near the sun produce the so called sundogs depending on the way the sun shines on the clouds illuminating them quite brightly with some refraction effects through moisture or liquid in the clouds produce iridescent rainbow effects. So when the moon is comming up over the horizon it is really big and has a different shade of coloring like orange but when it is high above us it is white and bright as well as small. Same with Mirages in the desert as well as on roads at a distance due to extreme heat distortions at great distances creates the illusion of water on the road or something I have seen this myself. Pete Santilli Show never heard of him sounds to me like the Howard Stern counter part for wacky conspiracy theories since he has a sidekick like Howard Stern. [youtube]P6TezMMTah4[/youtube] You can either look at the sun with some special equipment like a telescope and sun filter via projecting it to a pice of paper or attachment your eyepice assy that allows you to do this like a projection screen and the lens assy is the projector of the sun image. I saw some kids on the internet show how to make a sunscope for viewing the sun or an solar eclipse directly without damaging you eyes so they claimed. [youtube]OwW7dRRTj2Y[/youtube] So they keep fanning the flames on this Pattie Brassard thing. I hope this character Pattie realizes their is the many who know her secrets will probably report him to the authorites involving fraud because a lot of people are going to be hurt in one form or another physically or mentally or both.
08-13-2013, 03:14 PM
Androgynous Pat Reminds me of the "Former White Hat" (professional writer of porn and disinfo. sleaze.) We have the US black ops projects to thank for creatures like this. Someone's havin' a laugh...
http://hyperspacecafe.com/showthread.php?tid=8550 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwT1kp0C3Ss I sat for an approx 1hr and half listening to Pete Santilli Episode 494 interview the person calling herself Pattie Brassard which is actually a he he agreed with everything Pattie said Pete indicated his military background and at the end of the program said that he is an intuitive kind person who is awake and knows if a person is being evil or good. And if they are evil call them out he said to Pattie I had a guy on yesterday who I called out as evil and the guy immediatiley bailed out of the interview but he said Pattie I can tell you are one of the good guys.
Pattie knows how to really play on the conspiracy of info both out there and things we all can agree that are happening right now so called anomalies we say that something wicked is comming our way but we can not say exactly what that is. Pete Santilli told Pattie today he was getting a heavy amount of trolls warning him about Pattie as Disinfo and a fake so Pattie played on that and the Earthquake activity going on the Pacific Rim as proof what she is saying is true. She or He was talking about Reptoids, the Galactic Council and her Claim of Borrowing a Telescope. Pete gave her an Open Invitation to come back on show if the SHTF event happens and encouraged her to contact other Host of other stations since I guess he would give Pattie or Patrick an endorsement. She did not go into telling the "OMG people who are panicking we are all going to die from Patties 2nd Sun event" of how to survive like bury a $50,000 camper into the dirt hook a heavy electrical cable to your camper to create an Electromagnetic shield and bury it deep in the ground with a stake and cover you and your camper 3ft under the dirt and make tunnel way and air passage way to your camper. She also mentioned the queen was going to speak to day but had back plan if she didn't say instead she would do the Obama thing and not say anything like Alien Disclosure. After hereing this I think we are all Nuts and Insane on this planet and almost incapable of seeing the big pictures instead easily manipulated with info that we already have in us. I look at the Earthquakes and see a pattern so all this is becoming just to wierd for me at the moment but have to step back and used the scientific method what do I know for a fact assuming the USGS and earthquake data is factual and not simulated to bS us. Other anomalies Ebassy clossing and Fully manned Fema Camps claimed by other. Pattie or Patrick Brassard starts the interview around approx 35 mins to time stamp 1 hour and 58 min since the whole show is four hours of listening to her and Pete and crazy people calling into the show after the interview. Like I said Pete Santilli is the Howard Stern of Talk Radio all today they focus on the 2nd Sun and the End of the World with fans of his show calling in to discuss what pattie just said. I have not listened to the whole 4hr show and wondering if any distenters called in to try to out pattie as disinfo. Maybe all their callers are crazy that called in. [youtube]QzI5apYuuXs[/youtube] |
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