Esoteric Astrology

[Astrojewels]

I think you explained it very well, thanks so much.

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I want to add something to my latest summary about the 3 energetic spheres:

the spheres of energy influences between all heaven bodies are relative and not absolute.

i.e.

1) in the sphere of Moon/Earth physic/etheric forces are (in average) stronger than let's say between Earth and a planet in the Pleiadians or in the Andromeda galaxy. However it is still possible that an etheric energy or etheric frequency from the Andromeda galaxy can be transmitted to the earth, but the impact is relative less then when it was transmitted from the Moon, or even planet Jupiter.

2) The relative strongest force sphere/fields between planets in a solar system are astral energy fields. That means the astral energies/powers are relative dominant between planets/sun in a the behaviour of planets within a solar system.

However there are still astral exchanges of energies possible between Earth and let's say a planet in the Sirius A system, if the amplitude/power of the frequency from the transmitted energy from Sirius A is strong enough to override the astral status within our solar system.

3) the energies in the sphere of between star systems or between galaxies/universes are mainly hyperspace energies, pure mental thought; that is mind-thought or spirit is the main cause of the energy exchange behaviour in/between star systems or galaxy. The hypothetical central point (of mind energy) of it all is God.

However, it is still possible that a physical/etheric thing can travel from Earth to a planet in let's say: Pleiadians; although the route must be fit in the exchange of hyperspace energies and the dependent astral energies to realize this (using energy lines or energetic connections in hyperspace and/or astral spheres).  

It is not easy stuff to explain.

Octahedron, the information you have posted here is "metaphysically" brilliant to read about and shows that "Celestial Harmonics" and the "Celestial Spheres" are ALL part of the complex "Cosmic Tapestry" that GOD MIND in all of it's GLORY has manifested across Time and Space, from this 3D Physical Reality and the EMF of this existence to the EMF of the 4D Astral Reality.:)

[Octahedron]

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I can’t read Dutch, but I have read a few of the older books written in the 1800’s and early 1900’s and they all discuss astrology in its true form, it really was not until 1956, (the year that changed many things) that the illusionary astrology became popular, the idea that reading the stars in magazines etc, it was from this year that the ‘thought’ began to be strongly manipulated. Thanks for sharing that info with me.

the Dutch book refers that true Astrology in ancient times had to do with monitoring/scanning and interpreting the different energies between the spheres planets, moon and sun affecting each other which had relative predestiny value for souls although not absolute.

the energies could be classified at different levels or spheres (from Earth perspective):

physical/etheric:  strongest relevance between Moon and Earth

astral: most relevant (of psychic-electric energies) effects between planets/sun in a solar system (feeding energies in maintaining the time/space matrix).

hyperspace: mental/spiritual/soul - influences between suns and stars across the universe; these energies stand above time and space.

The last sphere was also named: Empyreum.

It was the challenge of the adept to control his world or correct the personal circumstances by free will in line with the will of God by correct interpreting the astrological signs and messages with the help of his oversoul/angelic energies.

the clue was: bringing soul-oversoul-God in harmony by which the human entity was the mediator between nature and God by refinding and respecting universal laws.

In some way you can say the astrology was a help to find the status of fate within providence.  

After reviewing the Dutch book again, I found something more in it, I would add this:

Astrology is the science of studying the Universe of how all energies are interrelated.

A solar system is a body in analogy as a human's body (& soul), the same is with the entire Universe. Not like because, let's say a human's heart is related to our sun, but because like our sun behaves like a heart in our solar system, like a heart has it's vital functions in a human's 'body.

The celestial bodies and stars have not an absolute impact on humans, humanity or or other planets, but there is always a beginning/start point at incarnation, birth etc.; like fate and destiny, so like each solar system has a fate and destiny, too; which can be influenced by will in many graduates (individual, group, worlds, galaxies etc.)

Stars, planets, sun, moon etc all do generate a spectrum of energies at a specific moment which is unique for every moment. At birth you also have a record of this info. It is not absolute or fatal, but the specific energies have effect on human's life, while at the same time humanity's behaviour always causes reeffects on the celestial bodies, too.

The application of Astrology on a human, is the fine tuning of individual frequencies in line with the relevant celestial frequencies to that human. So, the energies at birth have some impact for the rest of an individual life, like being born with a specific DNA or some specific parents have much impact.

At Earth now, the most significant energies on humans (in average) are related to the Moon, then the Sun, and then the other planets depending on size, distance, movements etc. that's why "moon children" generally are the first to be discussed with it. Also, none of the celestial bodies have absolute priority in interpretation over an " astrology profile", because it is possible that certain specific combinations i.e. planet Mars in conjunction with say star configuration Gemini has at a specifc date more influence at birth than the Moon or a kind of Sun-planet combination.

Further, if a planet like Pluto (if it is artificial or not) in this solar system is existent or not is not very relevant.  In theory, Pluto or even a comet has influence on a birth of a human, but this is almost nothing in comparition to other heaven bodies.

i.e.  in the case of Pluto the impact may be less than 0,00000001 % measure error effects on the astrology profile of somebody if Pluto does exist or not exist in this solar system.

i.e. a destroyed planet like Maldek maybe had an effect in the past barely relevant say less then 5% impact (in an average astrolgy profile), if humanity did exist on Earth at that time, where there was no Moon or so.

But generally the moon is very important, if there is no moon existent to Earth anymore, astrology profiles would be completely different. 

Interesting would be to discover how important Neptune and Uranus could be at average.

Astrology was the highest knowledge of the Ancient, because it was the study of  God, Universe/solar system and humans as a total analogy of interrelated energies all connected to cosmic principles, laws and nature.

People who say astrology is bogus do not understand that knowledge of astrology is to be compared with the true knowledge of a human's mind/body and more in relation to God. And beyond that, astrology is a part of real theological science, like theurgy and spiritual magic.

When human's energy is used in a manipulaton, like Montauk project, than the astrological (etheric, astral, mental) energies of a human can not be denied, otherwise a human likely will die. Manipulation (esp. astral energies) is possible to a certain amount, like DNA can be manipulated.

In general: the importance of Astrology in Esoterics is like the importance of Mathematics in Science.
 
Also interesting stated in the Dutch book is, conventional physical science is a complete lie, because something like gravity as a causal force does NOT exist. Gravity is NOT a CAUSE, gravity is an EFFECT force caused by certain etheric, astral and cosmic energies to a body. These energies are causal and principal to the behaviour of all celestial bodies in relation to each other, and all related to mental powers and spiritual powers.

The physical laws of scientist Newton are completely misinterpretated and changed to a fraud over time.

Now, I know why this book is forbidden in the libraries or forbidden to be publicated again.

[Astrojewels]

This is great octahedron, did you write this or is it from the book?

There are so many parts I love and so many to comment on- firstly yes astrology is the ancient knowledge of interrelated energies all connected to cosmic principles, laws and nature.

I have never be one to focus on the theory side of it, its all about the energy and how it affects us from the motion of each planet moving and pulling energy from the sun, each planet has great purpose and it all depends on where they were situated at our re-entry (birth) 

Good point about the Montauk project or any project similar, the body is a vessel (and this is often forgotten), so the body carries frequency from genetic, intrusive and manipulated DNA, and when the soul energy enters the physical body, the mind pattern must take on that energy, and part of the reason why we are born into such a helpless vessel is our soul energy must rest for long periods from the amount of energy that it takes to enter the vessel and as the human form grows and begins to ‘think’ from thought patterns already contained, these thought patterns become layered with life –parents, friends, socializing, school etc.  

So through the planets we can define where our thought patterns can be altered, I have researched all the Montauk survivors birth charts (that I have had access to)and so many of them have similar patterns of energy that was used to layer the mind-pattern and original pattern of thought, the water signs to amplify the psychic senses, I have not come across a person involved in these types of experiments without strong placements of water element signs. 

Neptune and Uranus are very important in the profile, Neptune is the doorway to your universal connection, how you decipher and relay it back to the thought process, Pisces is ruled by this planet therefore it can be used against you to find the truth because you may be sensitive and knowledgeable in ancient universal laws. Uranus indicates how individual we are in standing up for what we believe and how far we want to fight for that freedom, it is also about friendship, acquaintances and group issues like Greenpeace, even though many are laced with illuminati the principal idea can not be manipulated like saving mother earth or animals.  

I could talk all day on this great subject, it is wonderful and your post is just so interesting.

[Richard]

Astrojewels[/color]]I have researched all the Montauk survivors birth charts (that I have had access to)and so many of them have similar patterns of energy that was used to layer the mind-pattern and original pattern of thought, the water signs to amplify the psychic senses, I have not come across a person involved in these types of experiments without strong placements of water element signs. 

What about people in the Philadelphia experiment? Do you feel all of them had a water sign? And would the bodies that some were transferred to have a water sign?

[Octahedron]

Astrojewels[/color]]This is great octahedron, did you write this or is it from the book?

There are so many parts I love and so many to comment on- firstly yes astrology is the ancient knowledge of interrelated energies all connected to cosmic principles, laws and nature.

I wrote it from the book and my translation of the occult understandings and concepts in my "amateuristic English".

I have to be careful with this, because I'm not perfect with occult knowledge and I can use wrong words or grammar.

The book is extremely high level and contains many secrets which can clarify more esoteric things which is not very well documented in many modern occult books, yet.

The author (a dedicated chemistry professor) studied  the Occult science for over 15 years and he had to admit he only knows maybe 1% of the scope to be found, at his time. The author did his study with the help of Kabbalah and knowledge from occultists like Papus, Paracelsus and many others. Although many truths are plain simple and available to know in the New Testament for individual development, he wrote and explained the most important sayings.

I'm busy to understand this Dutch book for over 6 years, and it will take me maybe 1000 years before I got the whole picture only with this book. So, I can not write more about it now.

The book is published around 1915, but the author predicted projects like Philadephia Exp. and Montauk Proj., because uncensored technology was just coming out of the box that time. He pointed to the functioning of the chakra system in relation to this and things like levitation, teleportation, bilocation etc etc. However author wrote that use of technology must be in line with "spiritual maturity", otherwise the biggest disasters could be expect on Earth.

[user=148]Astrojewels[/user] wrote:

I have never be one to focus on the theory side of it, its all about the energy and how it affects us from the motion of each planet moving and pulling energy from the sun, each planet has great purpose and it all depends on where they were situated at our re-entry (birth) 

Good point about the Montauk project or any project similar, the body is a vessel (and this is often forgotten), so the body carries frequency from genetic, intrusive and manipulated DNA, and when the soul energy enters the physical body, the mind pattern must take on that energy, and part of the reason why we are born into such a helpless vessel is our soul energy must rest for long periods from the amount of energy that it takes to enter the vessel and as the human form grows and begins to ‘think’ from thought patterns already contained, these thought patterns become layered with life –parents, friends, socializing, school etc.  

So through the planets we can define where our thought patterns can be altered, I have researched all the Montauk survivors birth charts (that I have had access to)and so many of them have similar patterns of energy that was used to layer the mind-pattern and original pattern of thought, the water signs to amplify the psychic senses, I have not come across a person involved in these types of experiments without strong placements of water element signs. 

Neptune and Uranus are very important in the profile, Neptune is the doorway to your universal connection, how you decipher and relay it back to the thought process, Pisces is ruled by this planet therefore it can be used against you to find the truth because you may be sensitive and knowledgeable in ancient universal laws. Uranus indicates how individual we are in standing up for what we believe and how far we want to fight for that freedom, it is also about friendship, acquaintances and group issues like Greenpeace, even though many are laced with illuminati the principal idea can not be manipulated like saving mother earth or animals.  

I could talk all day on this great subject, it is wonderful and your post is just so interesting.

In general this is in line what I know and read from the book, too, yes; esp. about the soul personality. And everything is interrelated, yes.

I don't know about Neptune details or so, but I think it is more likely a kind of combination of the Sun and Neptune about universal connections to give an example opinion of my own.

The real ancient universal laws were teached under the name "Hermes Trismegistus" as a process of development in 3 steps of the soul personality to be united with the Creator (God), where it got all divine powers (back again).  3 levels of development:

Adept, People's Son, Son of God (Highest title).

As a remark, author found out, life in physical reality is a prison, caused by ourself, by overfocusing on the celebral system, where children of the moon (moon children) had (in general) a better opportunity to balance between cerebral system and ganglien system.

The author wrote about the true astrology in ancient Egypt, Atlantis and elsewhere, where the best sincere adepts got the title of High Priest. Astrology was the highest knowledge about cosmic laws and principles and if an adept was not 100% familiar with it, he could never be "promoted".

Astrology is much more than horoscope reporting, it is also related to study the whole universe & spiritual laws beyond the scope of time and space.

Author was not able to write more much about it, unfortunately it was the introduction to the chakra system where he had to focus on with this book.

 

[Astrojewels]

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What about people in the Philadelphia experiment? Do you feel all of them had a water sign? And would the bodies that some were transferred to have a water sign?

I have not looked into the Philadelphia experiment Richard, I do not have birth dates and times, do you have any as it would be interesting to take a look at these as well. Only on estimation, I would say that these people would have to have a strong Saturn placement and a more ‘earth’ dominating combination, but would require at least one strong water element.  Each experiment has a different intention therefore requires a different source of energy.

I could not say if those who re-entered would have a dominating water combination; it would depend on so many things like how they absorbed the ‘experience’ and if they were able to understand and how the mind pattern took in the information, there are many things to consider and you would have to just begin with one person and evaluate them all individually and then put the similarities together.

[Astrojewels]

Octahedron[/color]]Astrology is much more than horoscope reporting, it is also related to study the whole universe & spiritual laws beyond the scope of time and space.  

What I have read so far you have done a great job in translating as it all makes sense to me.

Saying the author is only 1% into understanding the information is the science of astrology, I call it a science because that is what it is, there is no black and white with it, there are basic laws and rules to follow, yet each person who chooses to delve into this knowledge is in it for life, it never ends because the planets are constantly moving and positioning into different alignments.

We as humans are also supposed to evolve in the same manner, continually growing stronger from what we have and have done, and flowing (not fighting) what is yet to come.

life in physical reality is a prison, caused by our self, because as we evolve from child/adolescent/young adult/mature adult/ senior etc we don’t allow growth, we get stuck in between each transition, we say that we are ‘this and that’ because our negative experiences create us to be over grounded, we hold all elements within our bodies yet most of us tend to not utilize these, we become emotionally unstable due to relationship challenges.

Imagine for one second if Jupiter decided it was not going to flow, it had enough and wanted to do its own thing, try another path for a change, break out and be rebellious, the entire universe would suffer with a catastrophic consequence. 

This whole area of information is extremely complex, and there is no simple method to study and learn the process of it, it is a matter of understand/experience –translate. I say over and over it is all about energy, and not about the logistics of the situation, because it is the energy that is absorbed when you do move on.

Although for many the prison is guarded by overseers who constantly keep you altered in that feeling of hopelessness, because as long as you feel unenthusiastic about life, you are a target to downloading, when you begin to trust that you are here for a reason, it is then life’s challenges are more manageable.    

Very interesting and please write more.

[Richard]

Astrojewels[/color]]I have not looked into the Philadelphia experiment Richard, I do not have birth dates and times, do you have any as it would be interesting to take a look at these as well. Only on estimation, I would say that these people would have to have a strong Saturn placement and a more ‘earth’ dominating combination, but would require at least one strong water element.  Each experiment has a different intention therefore requires a different source of energy.

I could not say if those who re-entered would have a dominating water combination; it would depend on so many things like how they absorbed the ‘experience’ and if they were able to understand and how the mind pattern took in the information, there are many things to consider and you would have to just begin with one person and evaluate them all individually and then put the similarities together.

I was curious about it because SS told me I was in the Philadelphia experiment but I don’t know if he was being honest or not. Since I don’t have a Saturn placement or a strong water element, it sounds like he might have been wrong.

I haven’t found Al Bielek’s birth date yet but Ed Cameron was born on August 4th 1916.  

[Octahedron]

Astrojewels[/color]][user=13].[/user]This whole area of information is extremely complex, and there is no simple method to study and learn the process of it, it is a matter of understand/experience –translate. I say over and over it is all about energy, and not about the logistics of the situation, because it is the energy that is absorbed when you do move on.

Although for many the prison is guarded by overseers who constantly keep you altered in that feeling of hopelessness, because as long as you feel unenthusiastic about life, you are a target to downloading, when you begin to trust that you are here for a reason, it is then life’s challenges are more manageable.    

Very interesting and please write more.

The understanding of astrology can to be related to the analogue understanding of the energies in human body/mind in relation to energies in nature and the universe.

Astrology is all about analogy, hierarchy of occult systematics, spirits, ghosts and energies.

Galaxies, Solar systems, planets, satelites (moons), humans, animals, plants, minerals are all living things with their spirits, all are interelated to each other with different levels of energies and all analogue to the human body with a kind of chakra system. Were man has the unique position to be the mediator between God and Nature, able to recover the balance when things are going unwanted.

i.e. this solar system acts like a "man" from the position to be looked from Earth, where Sun ~ Heart chakra, Moon ~Solar plexus/, Earth-Oceans/Atmosphere ~ Creative Chakra Earth-land ~ Root chakra etc. toget an idea. The head/brain can be found in the supposed center of the solar system (which is virtual) and there the psychic energies are feeding this solar sytem; were these come frome elsewhere form a higher level in this galaxy where i.e. Sirius operates/analogue to this Solar system like a kind of crown chakra to higher spheres in the Universe to get a kind of idea;

Your remark (as an analogy, not a to be taken as a fixed fact)  about Neptune can be related to the bigness of this planet and the big distance to Earth, were the supposed center of the solar system depends on the position of the "gravitational" center of all solar system bodies where in this case Neptune has a big influence on this position, and thus about the streams of psychic energies and causal principle energies. Like the moon feeds the Earth (&  thus humans) with the most lower astral energies.

to be more accurate about Hermes Trismegistus Teachings: there were 3 levels te be reached:

0) Adept

1) Son of the People  (graduated in the little mysteries)

2) Son of the Gods (graduated in the big mysteries)

3) Son of God (Initiator) (graduated to highest mysteries to be kept very secret) 

BTW: not all overseers are evil, there are many entities who can and do help, but man (or better: the soul personality) has free will and the ultimate responsibility for his fate in this lifetime and next lifetimes.

1) The clue with astrology is a kind of mathematical system to get an accurate picture of the status quo of solar system/universe in spiritual/ethical concern.

2) The clue with soul-personality is to follow his true relation with God-Oversoul and escape fragmenting of the mind and fragmenting of the will to get in touch with the will of God also in spiritual/ethical concern.

1) is macro philosophy 2)  is micro-philosophy;  when connecting 1 with 2 like in an Atlantean Priest; there was a 1-1 connection between God (creator) and humanity on a planet - kind of law of One.

Other analogy:

a) the causal influence of God (creator) on the total universe was called: the Father

b) the causal influence of God (creator) on humanity/humans was called: the Son

c) the causal influence of God (creator) on the nature/celestial bodies: the Holy Spirit

All influences were the same related to principles and cosmic laws.

I think I can conclude herewith this info about Astrology, while I don't know about the detailed practics of Astrology.

My message is the focus on analogy between man and solar systems in occult teachings.