Exception to the rule

[Mercy Now]

 MC, How is it decided  or determined who is and who is not  capable of " reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity." ?

[Craig]

In spite of having several degrees and professional qualifications

My personal opinion is that you already have a natural ability to reach goals and things you want and need. From what you are writing you are a successful person, you may just have a phase where you question everything you did.

Thank you - you are the second person of late to tell me that I am successful.  I need to start believing it myself. 

Craig

 

[Craig]

not for everyone,because everyone is not capable of reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity.

Maybe that is what is wrong with me :(.  Maybe I am just not capable.

Craig

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

[user=1313]Craig[/user] wrote:

not for everyone,because everyone is not capable of reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity.

Maybe that is what is wrong with me :(.  Maybe I am just not capable.

Craig

Just because the techniques (MCs or Swerdlow's) do not work for you does not mean that you are spiritually immature. Such claims being not spiritually mature enough when techniques don't work are made in cults in order to trigger submissive behaviour. It sounds mysterious - not being mature - and then you want to do all the techniques to become "spiritually mature", when instead you just have to clean up your mess in the physical reality. Don't go that route. You had your successes, you have proof of that. Just ask yourself the right questions what to do next. Talk with your wife, look around and find out what is right. Stay away from mystery and build on the solid things you already have. Of course if you have a real desire for mystery then you have to check that. Trust your intuition.

Always remember that crucial rule: It begins with "here and now" and not with "there and then". Whether that is spiritual maturity, problem solving or anything else. You don't have to use symbols, colors, dna or anything else to find about yourself. You're the expert on yourself.

[Golden Winged SnakeOiLion]

[user=73]MC[/user] wrote:

Hold on there for a minute."The techniques"?Which ones?
When one comes to this forum,they automatically assume that everyone on this forum only does,or knows,or talks about the techniques Swerdlow gave,which I call baby techniques.
When someone talks about hyperspace it automatically is assumed that hyperspace belongs to Swerdlow,as though it really could.High level hyperspace techniques(not the Swerdlow kind)are not for everyone,because everyone is not capable of reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity.

If you have techniques that work - great! I do not want to forbid using these techniques (SS's or yours) but I want to stress that you need to master the basics - that is what is right in front of you in life. And just because one can do fancy hyperspace stuff that does not mean that one is spiritually more mature than those who don't. Again we have here an element of elitism, while spiritual maturity is for all, for free.

[MC]

Yes,I have techniques that work.I also have kids that can do my techniques.Are they spiritually mature?No,but one day they will be.They might not even achieve this in this incarnation.There is no element of elitism and you should not feel inferior.Not everyone can become a teacher,but every teacher must have been a student at some point.
Mastering the basics to me doesn't mean just concentrating on what is in front of me in life.This is all that is important to you?Well,you certainly won't get far with that type of mentality.

There is nothing wrong with you Craig.It takes time, understanding of what you are doing or attempting to do,and if you're lucky in life,finding someone who doesn't know what the word selfish means or doesn't have any ulterior motives and gives you a push and motivates you to become the best you can be in this lifetime.

[Mercy Now]

 

 MC said...... 

High level hyperspace techniques(not the Swerdlow kind)are not for everyone,because everyone is not capable of reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity.

 

MC, Who and how is it decided  or determined who is and who is not  capable of " reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity." ?

[Octahedron]

Hold on there for a minute."The techniques"?Which ones?
When one comes to this forum,they automatically assume that everyone on this forum only does,or knows,or talks about the techniques Swerdlow gave,which I call baby techniques.

Hmmm, you can develop them to adult level if you want.  Then you can get adult level results.


[user=73]MC[/user] wrote:

..High level hyperspace techniques(not the Swerdlow kind)are not for everyone,because everyone is not capable of reaching that level of achievement,or spiritual maturity.

Everybody who has a soul is capable. Even without using high level hyperspace techniques.

"Blessed are the ones who are poor in mind".

That necessarily doesn't have to mean the ones who do still use hyperspace techniques are not blessed. :)

 

[Astrojewels]

Wise words Golden Winged SnakeOilLion (that is a long name, can I aussie-size it and cut it down?) being able to perform techniques does not provide proof to spiritual maturity, true MC that not everyone can be a teacher, but a spiritual teacher should be a ‘continual student’. it totally depends on the route you want to follow, I am not criticizing the techniques of SS or MC, but they are not for everyone, and that you do not have to perform such actions to receive spiritual gratification, I consider my 11 yr old to be very ‘spiritually mature’.

We all have our different views Craig, and the first step to spiritual gratification is the path that feels the most comfortable and do not feel like a failure because you get no results from these techniques.

[Mercy Now]

Octahedron said:

Everybody who has a soul is capable. Even without using high level hyperspace techniques.

"Blessed are the ones who are poor in mind".

That necessarily doesn't have to mean the ones who do still use hyperspace techniques are not blessed. :)

 Octahedron, I believe  spirituality requires more than spiritual knowledge ,esoteric or otherwise. A kind loving heart has to be the book in which that knowledge is recorded and reviewed and is, in my view ,by far more valuable than any gem or nugget of knowledge.