Farewell

[GertrudaRose]

I not only totally agree with Lion, but it is pretty much what I was trying to say in my post about How I Choose To Spend My Time.  (see http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic...e+to+spend).

When I have tried to make this point in the past, the topic has degenerated into talk about rock music stars, avoidance of reality, and many other topics.  It seems there  is a real effort to avoid the point.  This would of course be true if at least one member of this group is working to keep people riled up.  Why doesn't anyone ever respond to my original question - is the Illuminati using conspiacy theories to keep people too busy to become an evolved being that can thwart them?

I too, like Lion, have discovered that if I take the time I used to spend on conspiracy stuff and put the time into becoming a person that helps to create a better future, everyone (including you) will benefit because we will get the future we think we will.  While I am spending time generating and attracting a future of love & compassion & gratitude, others are spending time generating a future of total control by the evil ones.

I am NOT saying that none of the conspiracy stuff is true, quite the opposite.  I believe a great deal of it.  But having accepted that, THEN WHAT?  Just let it happen?  Just exactly how do we prevent it?  What do YOU do to change that future?  Talking about it only reinforces it, I think.  The next step is to turn it into a different future.  It can be done and many of you know how.  So why can't we just do it?  Where is THAT thread?

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[veronica]

There could be thruth in what you saying.

What should we do? Should we ignore reptilians? Isn't that what we have been doing for thousands of years? I'm not writing this ironicaly, I am just asking- if this is true,then what should we do?

[Sily]

Okay, I'm popping back in to write down my thoughts or version of how I handle conspiracy info in my life:

• Ignorance is bliss................. but it's still ignorance.
• I don't consider any of the time I've spent on conspiracy/alternative news or spirituality to have been a waste of my time.  It is big part of my journey, I have gained lots of insight from the people I have met along the way.  The information has been interesting & thank you, you have entertained me.
  
• Yeah, the information is very dark.  It is dealing with people that don't like to dance, if you know what I mean.  They love control and plotting and money and death and playing with the humans, weather, systems, energies on the planet. 
  
• What can I do to make things better?  I can create my own world here (locally) that includes beauty and positive energy, in my home and in my interactions.
  
• My guess is Richard and Dreamtime have seen a lot of people come and go over the years.  My own philosophy is you have to let people go - they are finished with what they needed and now they move on.  Hopefully other people will join in and jump on the Hyperspace Bus.
• New info and theories come out and *events* happen as the years roll on, it's good to discuss what's happening with people who aren't going to call me crazy.
  

[spiritvoyager]

It sounds to me like Lion is frustrated with what he perceives to be insufficiently productive efforts to uncover and expose hidden truths and feels the need to find meaning and joy in life elsewhere.  I think that maybe following this new path may reflect a shift from outer to inner directedness and if so, it is a good thing.

I personally, was born inner directed among people who are not.  This gave me the advantage of learning to question things and not take them at face value. Discovering the dark agendas was for me, the result of pursuing inner work.  That is why I agree with Tsarion's 2012 thesis.  We have to deal with our personal shadows in order to create a world that reflects our conscious desires. 

( See:  http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum13/4048.html)

We can all only do what we can and it is important to find joy and meaning in life. For me, handling what sometimes seems like a nasty storm of information has required recognizing that, and learning to live with ambiguity.  (I guess I incarnated with the astrological energies that make this possible) I file much of the information that interests me away in the mental file cabinet. (I hope this is not some kind of MC program.:?)

I agree with Astrojewels that Lion will at some point recognize the importance of time spent focusing on the machinations of the dark forces.  I do not agree that events like 911, the JFK and JFK junior murders have lost their relevance.  They are merely in the realm of history and we certainly don't want to doom ourselves to repeat it (to borrow from that well worn quote).  Certainlly, lots of information has emerged showing the involvement of well known currently active politicians in those events.  I think we should discuss the hell out whatever new piece of information interest us. Talk it out.  Give those brain cells a workout.  I suppose I have faith that we will eventually expose enough truth to decide to set ourselves free.  I wonder how many times humanity has repeated the same mistakes of allowing ourselves to be controlled by failing to take our freedom and take responsibility for it?

Of course, the hyperspace inner work, that is the centerpiece of this forum is essential. I don't comment on it much because I am still such a newbie at it. I am immensely grateful for the ability to explore and exchange ideas with individuals who are also in pursuit of healing themselves and the planet.   Thank you all for hanging out here.

I have no claim to mastery of the Law of Attraction but I do feel that there is a tendency for some people to use it to escape responsibility for doing their inner work.  This discussion about Lion's angst reminds me of the purging process that has to occur with many of us when we change residence.  The sorting, and purging, and packing, can be a most unpleasant task, especially if time and energy are short.

[DreamTime]

GR...I hear what you are saying, but I do not know how to answer you or what it is you wish to hear.  I was never into any of this stuff before I met Richard. My life was basically just one of survival and ignorance. Is it better now that I know all of this? I can't really say it is. I am still working on surviving this life, but I am not 'running' every few months. Although, that in itself, I can not say is a good thing, because now I wonder if that is what 'they' wanted - to keep me in one place. It also seemed to get a lot worse after meeting certain people who told me that I was specifically programed and had a 'ton' of implants in me. Whoa...that really threw me for a loop. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that kind of stuff. So that information sent me into a fury of trying to find out about my family and my past - which just kept on leading me into a blank wall.

I wish I could just 'turn off' or 'forget' everything that I have learned, because I think that I am now much more leery of events and/or people, and I seem to worry about my girls and my grandchildren (and what happens to them) a lot more. I seem to ponder on the "why me? Why my bloodline?" question quite a bit more, and it frustrates me to no end that I can not get any answers about my past. "Techniques" do not seem to work for me, so that is not the way.

I try to stay positive (via The Secret), and improve myself and my little corner of the world, but my mind always seems to come back to all of this stuff. (It doesn't help living with the King of Conspiracies, either. ;))

So what are we supposed to do, GR? How can we keep our minds off of all this stuff and make life better for all? Or is that what 'they' want us to do - keep our minds so busy with other stuff that we have no time to even think about this stuff?

I am thankful that this forum was started because I have met quite a few really good people through it whom I would never have met without it. But I do not like to constantly focus on 'doom and gloom,' as my mind does enough of that on its own. So what is the answer? Where is the happy medium? Should we all do what Lion is doing and insert ourselves back into the 'Matrix?'  What exactly IS the answer?

Forgive my ramblings, people. I don't usually go off like this, but my thoughts just got away from me this time. Peace!

[veronica]

Well, everything that is happening in this world is a result of our actions. We are all, including reptilians, illuminati famillies and others, responsible for what is going on. How could we let happen all this wars, suffering, pain, hatred? Is it that human race is forever condemned and never to evolve on a higher level? What is it that we want to achive with all these information we read?

There are people whose life was never happy. For them, fighting against reptillians is maybe easier in a way, because they have nothing to lose and they believe that would bring them happines. Yet, there are people who have been living satisfactory lives and whose curiosity or something else brought them here. I am one of those. I doubt that I could go back to Matrix. How can I do that when even if don't read about it, I see what is going on in my country. I see plans within plans, microchips that they already started promoting, huge shoping centers that have been built all over the place with processed food. The other day my boss told me how great is that we have gmo food, because that would enable unlimited amount of food that would eventually feed all the poor people in Africa. How hillarious.

However,I don't believe that this world really could become a "borg" society. I believe that we have pushed our society to the edge and that it is just a matter of time when everything would collapse,just like it happend many times before. If there was an experiment to test humans, to push them fighting in order to enlightem them, I think the experiment has failed.
How can a mouse fight if he is in a mouse trap? Maybe if he changes the mind pattern.

[spiritvoyager]

Dreamtime, GR,

I think we all have to do what our inner guidance directs and to focus on seeking that out if we don't know what that is.  To each his own.  Individuals have different inclinations and tolerances and are working on different life lessons. Some, like me, are drawn to investigate the news behind the news.  Even so, I block out a lot. It is not so much out of fear (which I have spent years wrestling with, and still do sometimes).  I block out that which doesn't interest me, accepting that everyone cannot know everything. 

It is almost magical sometimes how, when I put a question to my higher guidance and move on to something else, the information comes, usually in an unexpected manner.  It's the same phenomena that Diane Lane and the American actress character describe in their conversations about "ladybugs" in the movie, Under the Tuscan Sun.

I posted a book excerpt in the Law of Attraction section that addresses the relevance of awareness and ignorance to the LOA.  Hope you find it helpful.

http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum49/4095.html

[Polly]

There has been some kind of energy shift for people to be saying what they are saying in this thread.

[DreamTime]

Is that good or bad, Polly?

[veronica]

Yeah,I think that you are right Polly. I've noticed many people thinking like this. Even myself. It must be some kind of atack on this and similar forums.

The good thing could be that if we are under some kind of atack than we do make difference just being here.