Finland: the Viking Ages

[Sariel]

I think this is getting more accepted in the west to, many travel to south america to do ayahuasca for example.

Yes, it is. It still doesn't make them better prepared for it. A lot of people travel to SA with completely exaggerated expectations. The problem - as I see it, is that they 'think' they know how it works (coming from their head rather than a more holistically integrated p.o.v. regardless of programming or not - that just makes it worse). Ignorance based on hearsay is the biggest misunderstanding as to what shamanic healing & in this context, ayahuasca is. There's not even a proper understanding what is contained in the root bark (the main properties being beta-carboline harmala alkaloids and MAOIs harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine.)

Point is, [color="#0000ff"]the MAOIs don't even become active because the stomach digestive process breaks down the effects of the MAOIs[/color] icon_banditof the root (which is where aya gets it name from).

Taken out of its ceremonial context (like any shamanic healing process) it then gets labelled a 'drug' or a 'triggering your programming'. icon_muede Ignorance (not curiosity) killed the cat (hey [color="#0000ff"]Blob1[/color], where are you?)

[color="#0000ff"]There was an American company that tried to patent the rights to ayahuasca[/color].

virtual.parkland.edu/hleuszler/Biodiversitycsfinal2001withtemplate.doc

[color="#0000ff"]Here's a small excerpt:[/color]

[size="2"]Night was falling over the tall trees in the depths of Ecuador’s rainforest when Taita (curandero/ayahuasquero) Inga, leader of the Secoya people, said to his oldest son, “Give the nice gringo some ayahuasca from the garden.” The guest smiled, and in return gratefully presented his hosts with two boxes of American cigarettes.
 
[/size] [size="2"][color="#0000ff"]The guest was Loren Miller, president of the International Plant Medicine Corporation—a North American pharmaceutical company[/color][/size][size="2"]. Miller went back to Ecuador’s capital city, Quito, packed up the ayahuasca sample, tucked it away in his carry-on bag, and took the first plane back to the United States.
 
[color="#0000ff"]When he reached the states, Miller prepared a document for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office which read, “ …the ayahuasca variety that I discovered in a garden in the Ecuadorian rainforest is new…”[/color]. He alleged that this “new” variety was different from an ayahuasca found in Hawaii because, “the flowers turn white when it wilts.”
 
[color="#0000ff"]Miller credited the plant with antiseptic, antibacterial, and Parkinson’s disease curative properties. To safeguard his find, he also patented this ayahuasca variety as an ornamental plant. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted him a patent under number 5.751.[/color]
 
[color="#0000ff"]This "new" variety has been cultivated for centuries by the Siona and Secoya peoples[/color] who use different names to differentiate between the wild and domestic varieties of ayahuasca.

[color="#0000ff"]In 1996, ten years after Miller’s visit, Taita Inga found out from a newspaper article that their sacred vine was patented and that the Siona and Secoya peoples could no longer call this plant their own.[/color]
 
Taita Inga realized that he had to try and correct the situation that he created so he [/size] [size="2"][color="#0000ff"]looked to the Center for International Environmental Law for advice. Taita Inga heard that Miller’s application for the patent contained some false information.

The Center for International Environmental Law urged the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to review its decision to grant the patent to Loren Miller. [/color][/size][size="2"]
 
[/size] [size="2"][color="#0055aa"]On November 4, 1999, Taita Inga won a precedent-setting victory, when the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office canceled the patent. “Our Shamans and Elders were greatly troubled by this patent. Now we are celebrating,” said Taita Inga.  “This is an historic day for indigenous peoples everywhere.”[/color][/size][size="2"]
 
[color="#0000ff"]The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office based its rejection of the patent on the fact that publications describing ayahuasca (Banisteriopsis caapi) were “known and available” prior to the filing of the patent application.[/color] According to patent law, no invention can be patented if it has been described in printed publications more than one year prior to the date of the patent application.
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As this case shows, the Illuminati have already had their fingers in the Amazon trying to steal once more from those that hold true knowledge & wisdom. To try & sell it as a 'product' thus not only taking it outside of its original indigenous context of shamanic healing but also robbing the spiritual & healing around the traditions of the ayahuasqueros from the indigenous peoples who, according to "The Ayahuasca Foundation" have:

[color="#5500ff"][size="2"]preserved the wisdom of the ancient cultures, the cultures that never lost their knowledge of the spirit, that never burned their witches at the stake, that never supressed the spiritual traditions of their ancestors, important knowledge, their sacred traditions, and this ancient science, the science of plant spirit medicine.[/size]
[/color]http://www.ayahuascafoundation.org/home.htm

[color="#0000ff"] [size="2"]The CIA used it about 20 years ago as a 'truth serum'[/size][/color][size="2"] - much like they did with LSD in the 50s on unsuspecting soldiers. Unlike LSD however, which is a lab created chemical mixture, ayahuasca didn't "work" the same way as LSD....[/size]

Amanita as in Fly Agaric, the red one with white spots. Supposed to be poisonous but it can be eaten:) I wont recommend it though. I think the vikings also might have used it too.

There are a lot of 'natural plants' I wouldn't touch, mainly because they're just poisonous with no real positive benefits on any level.

Plants have always been part of the greater spiritual relationship between man & the universe. It has become distorted by the likes of Illuminati-run big pharmaceutical companies & other Illuminati disinfo sources to keep people from truly breaking free of the invisible bondage by distorting what was the original purpose of these plants & its proper application in the appropriate setting & preparation.

Shamanic healing is more complex than just doing your "thing". It's a recipe for disaster. [color="#0000ff"]A shaman is there for a reason. He's not just a decoration[/color].

The Amazon is being destroyed by big Illuminati oil companies as well as the erosion of the rainforest for big lumber companies, just as they are doing so in Siberia, Australia, Asia & Africa as well as Russia.

The difference being, that the Amazon has such a wealth of plants that only grow in those conditions that by now most of them are in danger of being forever destroeyed - and with them the tribes that are robbed of their traditional ways of life extinguishing their indigenous knowledge & thus further emprisoning those who rely on 'outside' sources to keep 'em further down in their own hellhole.

Haha, blob1 and cats  :D

You seem to poses plenty of knowledge about shamanism and mushrooms, I mean, natural healing  plants.

Russia? Haha, in Russia Vodka is the main healing remedy.

I personally used Siberian Ginseng for strengthening of body and mind. It's quite different from Asian Ginseng.

[xanthas]

[user=14]Sariel[/user] wrote: 

Yeah, that is why I liked to scary girls with bugs in highschool :D

You made me to feel younger now.

What, you're an old man? :shock: (Just kidding...icon_cool).

btw. Few photos from North Korea,  maybe not the most pleasant one, but realistic... I am great fan of photography

You scare me we have so much in common. When I was walking through NY & SF, all I did was take photos (not of me though! I hate taking pictures of myselficon_greatgrin).

It's remarkable that on all the pictures of NK it's almost only brown, grey & beige...except for the blue boats. There are the occasional film makers (especially of Eastern Germany) that have been allowed to film - only under the heavy supervision of an 'official' representative of the country.

The many (especially women) who have tried to flee N.Korea via the sea either have drowned or, when they arrived in China were not even granted asylum & basically stuck in no-man's land... A lot of them told awful tales of horror... Way back, at the end of the 90s when there was the drought, the NK gov't fed the population chipped wood to 'feed' them - including the children...
 
Korean traditional clothing is so colourful (Koreans are called the Italians of Asia, just like the Chinese are referred to as the 'French' and the Japanese as the Germans of Asia...), so varied, too, it is sad to see that NK only has brown & grey (military & poor people's clothes).

[img]file:///C:/Users/phoenix/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-5.jpg[/img]http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Images/Festivals/HM05045.jpg

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Images/Festiv...F05012.jpg

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/cgi-bin/pictu...Name=dance

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/cgi-bin/pictu...ame=court9

So, what about Finland...? Anything newicon_lupe?

[Sariel]

What, you're an old man? :shock: (Just kidding...icon_cool).

Just little, but not so much as you would want :) In fact, I think I am younger than you. I just wanted to say that you returned me into highschool age. Which I would most likely wanted to skip and forget. I hated to be teenager. Because I just started to learn things. When I now look at myself and what I learned about myself and then when I was younger I start to feel bad. It's like nightmare to think to return again there, in the past.

You scare me we have so much in common.

So, it's not just exotic worms that I scare you with :)

When I was walking through NY & SF, all I did was take photos (not of me though! I hate taking pictures of myselficon_greatgrin).

I love New York. SF? Science Fantasy? 

Why you hate that? 

It's remarkable that on all the pictures of NK it's almost only brown, grey & beige...except for the blue boats. There are the occasional film makers (especially of Eastern Germany) that have been allowed to film - only under the heavy supervision of an 'official' representative of the country.

I think that these movies are little outdated (Eastern Germany)

The many (especially women) who have tried to flee N.Korea via the sea either have drowned or, when they arrived in China were not even granted asylum & basically stuck in no-man's land... A lot of them told awful tales of horror... Way back, at the end of the 90s when there was the drought, the NK gov't fed the population chipped wood to 'feed' them - including the children...

Yes, it's very sad indeed to hear such stories about North Korea. :(

Korean traditional clothing is so colourful (Koreans are called the Italians of Asia, just like the Chinese are referred to as the 'French' and the Japanese as the Germans of Asia...), so varied, too, it is sad to see that NK only has brown & grey (military & poor people's clothes).

Hm... what do you think about red color for uniforms of soldiers? Or maybe yellow? :)

Interesting, I didn't know about these comparisons.

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Images/Cloth/Hanb165.jpg

This hat, do you know more about it? Similar hats were used by Etruscans and could be found also on monuments on the Eastern's islands.

So, what about Finland...? Anything newicon_lupe?

Just bears, and few Finnish swimming in the lake.

icon_lupe

Is this a Borg?





 

[HeadSpace]

I would like to try out pink uniforms, and in prisons. That would be great:)
I wonder if I have finnish heritage. My father once mentioned that I and my sister look finnish.

I do have a very strong R, vocally. Sometimes I wonder if it is from some animal genetics, or something.

[xanthas]

[user=14]Sariel[/user] wrote:

Just little, but not so much as you would want :)  In fact, I think I am younger than you. 

I know you are...icon_wink

I hated to be teenager. Because I just started to learn things. When I now look at myself and what I learned about myself and then when I was younger I start to feel bad. It's like nightmare to think to return again there, in the past.

I know what you mean...icon_neutral I think most teenagers hate being teenagers...

I love New York. SF? Science Fantasy?

 
San Francisco...

Why you hate that? 

I prefer timeless motives for photography. Animals, landscapes, buildings, playing with light & dark, a certain angle... A certain detachment.

I think that these movies are little outdated (Eastern Germany)

I'm talking of the recent film-makers (ex-EG). A lot NKs went over to EG to learn German & somehow, they still gain easier access to NK even though the 'wall' came down in '89.

Hm... what do you think about red color for uniforms of soldiers? Or maybe yellow? :)

Military hacks are really not my favourite focus, so I really don't pay that much attention to them. Of course, red has multifarious meanings but it should be taken into account that colours do not have same significance in the West as they have in the East. White, as an example, is considered a colour of mourning in Korea.

Korean traditional clothing is so colourful (Koreans are called the Italians of Asia, just like the Chinese are referred to as the 'French' and the Japanese as the Germans of Asia...), so varied, too, it is sad to see that NK only has brown & grey (military & poor people's clothes).

Interesting, I didn't know about these comparisons.

Most people don't...icon_smile

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Images/Cloth/Hanb165.jpg

This hat, do you know more about it? Similar hats were used by Etruscans and could be found also on monuments on the Eastern's islands.

It is worn by higher officials & as a sign of their elevated status in society. My pc is kaputt - at the moment I'm writing 'off-base' so when my internet is up &running again I'll try to give you a more detailed answer.

Just bears.

I love bears - they're quite imposing & powerful animals (extremely hard to read, too), really inventive in their fish catching abilities & are the gourmets of the big mammals on earth... On Saturday I watched a documentary about ex-hunters turned animal rescuers (in this case, abandoned bear cubs) to teach them make their life back in the Taiga. Beautiful & very endearing given they will have to be set free & taught to stay away from humans in order to survive in the wild, even if they have been raised by humans. 

Headspace wrote:

I would like to try out pink uniforms, and in prisons. That would be great:)

Oh, I don't think so... as a matter of fact, that would probably be a major trigger for some rough chaps to come after you & "man-handle" you...

I wonder if I have finnish heritage. My father once mentioned that I and my sister look finnish.

Well, do some research!icon_light