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I think I remember reading the Siberian Shamans used Amanita Muscaria. Could that be right?
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If you mean mushrooms, yes. But again, at the time, the plants were less poisoned by the environment - which is most likely no longer the case, except for Mexico & the northern Andean countries... Also, the landscape (i.e., Russian Siberia bordering & stretching into Asia) has changed.
It's a shame people don't understand how these plants have been used for millenia for the purposes of being better healers and to heal rather than getting 'triggered'.
All prehistoric tribes, the Fins (I believe) as much as the other nomadic tribes (because, after all, that is how these different races came to settle down where they ultimately did) have had their archaic traditions of worship, what today would be referred to as 'Pagan' rituals.
That knowledge (of plants) still exists in pockets today but it is being completely dammed & eradicated by the 'sticking to science & lab chemistry' Illuminati hooked crowd slowly diminishing true knowledge (instead "plastic" knowledge) of plants, their wisdom & healing properties.
Mongolia is one of the few places on earth where technology hasn't yet completely changed the way of life. Even Siberia is no longer the vast, untouched Taiga it used to be. Sariel, if I'm wrong please correct me.
Norway must be stunningly beautiful, too... The majestic fjords, the clear oceans & clean air...and the silence...:) and the Nordic lights...
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I think this is getting more accepted in the west to, many travel to south america to do ayahuasca for example. But I do not think hallucinogens or whatever one wants to call it fits for programmed people:? Specifically programmed, I mean.
Amanita as in Fly Agaric, the red one with white spots. Supposed to be poisonous but it can be eaten:) I wont recommend it though. I think the vikings also might have used it too.
I like it here, yes:)
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Quote:I think this is getting more accepted in the west to, many travel to south america to do ayahuasca for example.
Yes, it is. It still doesn't make them better prepared for it. A lot of people travel to SA with completely exaggerated expectations. The problem - as I see it, is that they 'think' they know how it works (coming from their head rather than a more holistically integrated p.o.v. regardless of programming or not - that just makes it worse). Ignorance based on hearsay is the biggest misunderstanding as to what shamanic healing & in this context, ayahuasca is. There's not even a proper understanding what is contained in the root bark (the main properties being beta-carboline harmala alkaloids and MAOIs harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine.)
Point is, [color="#0000ff"] the MAOIs don't even become active because the stomach digestive process breaks down the effects of the MAOIs[/color] icon_banditof the root (which is where aya gets it name from).
Taken out of its ceremonial context (like any shamanic healing process) it then gets labelled a 'drug' or a 'triggering your programming'. icon_muede Ignorance ( not curiosity) killed the cat (hey [color="#0000ff"]Blob1[/color], where are you?)
[color="#0000ff"]There was an American company that tried to patent the rights to ayahuasca[/color].
virtual.parkland.edu/hleuszler/Biodiversitycsfinal2001withtemplate.doc
[color="#0000ff"]Here's a small excerpt:[/color]
[size="2"]Night was falling over the tall trees in the depths of Ecuadorââ¬â¢s rainforest when Taita (curandero/ayahuasquero) Inga, leader of the Secoya people, said to his oldest son, ââ¬ÅGive the nice gringo some ayahuasca from the garden.ââ¬Â The guest smiled, and in return gratefully presented his hosts with two boxes of American cigarettes.
[/size] [size="2"][color="#0000ff"] The guest was Loren Miller, president of the International Plant Medicine Corporationââ¬âa North American pharmaceutical company[/color][/size][size="2"]. Miller went back to Ecuadorââ¬â¢s capital city, Quito, packed up the ayahuasca sample, tucked it away in his carry-on bag, and took the first plane back to the United States.
[color="#0000ff"]When he reached the states, Miller prepared a document for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office which read, ââ¬Å ââ¬Â¦the ayahuasca variety that I discovered in a garden in the Ecuadorian rainforest is newââ¬Â¦Ã¢â¬Â[/color]. He alleged that this ââ¬Ånewââ¬Â variety was different from an ayahuasca found in Hawaii because, ââ¬Åthe flowers turn white when it wilts.ââ¬Â
[color="#0000ff"]Miller credited the plant with antiseptic, antibacterial, and Parkinsonââ¬â¢s disease curative properties. To safeguard his find, he also patented this ayahuasca variety as an ornamental plant. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted him a patent under number 5.751.[/color]
[color="#0000ff"]This "new" variety has been cultivated for centuries by the Siona and Secoya peoples[/color] who use different names to differentiate between the wild and domestic varieties of ayahuasca.
[color="#0000ff"]In 1996, ten years after Millerââ¬â¢s visit, Taita Inga found out from a newspaper article that their sacred vine was patented and that the Siona and Secoya peoples could no longer call this plant their own.[/color]
Taita Inga realized that he had to try and correct the situation that he created so he [/size] [size="2"][color="#0000ff"] looked to the Center for International Environmental Law for advice. Taita Inga heard that Millerââ¬â¢s application for the patent contained some false information.
The Center for International Environmental Law urged the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to review its decision to grant the patent to Loren Miller. [/color][/size][size="2"]
[/size] [size="2"][color="#0055aa"] On November 4, 1999, Taita Inga won a precedent-setting victory, when the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office canceled the patent. ââ¬ÅOur Shamans and Elders were greatly troubled by this patent. Now we are celebrating,ââ¬Â said Taita Inga. ââ¬ÅThis is an historic day for indigenous peoples everywhere.ââ¬Â[/color][/size][size="2"]
[color="#0000ff"]The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office based its rejection of the patent on the fact that publications describing ayahuasca (Banisteriopsis caapi) were ââ¬Åknown and availableââ¬Â prior to the filing of the patent application.[/color] According to patent law, no invention can be patented if it has been described in printed publications more than one year prior to the date of the patent application.
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As this case shows, the Illuminati have already had their fingers in the Amazon trying to steal once more from those that hold true knowledge & wisdom. To try & sell it as a 'product' thus not only taking it outside of its original indigenous context of shamanic healing but also robbing the spiritual & healing around the traditions of the ayahuasqueros from the indigenous peoples who, according to "The Ayahuasca Foundation" have:
[color="#5500ff"] [size="2"]preserved the wisdom of the ancient cultures, the cultures that never lost their knowledge of the spirit, that never burned their witches at the stake, that never supressed the spiritual traditions of their ancestors, important knowledge, their sacred traditions, and this ancient science, the science of plant spirit medicine.[/size]
[/color]http://www.ayahuascafoundation.org/home.htm
[color="#0000ff"] [size="2"]The CIA used it about 20 years ago as a 'truth serum'[/size][/color][size="2"] - much like they did with LSD in the 50s on unsuspecting soldiers. Unlike LSD however, which is a lab created chemical mixture, ayahuasca didn't "work" the same way as LSD....[/size]
Quote:Amanita as in Fly Agaric, the red one with white spots. Supposed to be poisonous but it can be eaten:) I wont recommend it though. I think the vikings also might have used it too.
There are a lot of 'natural plants' I wouldn't touch, mainly because they're just poisonous with no real positive benefits on any level.
Plants have always been part of the greater spiritual relationship between man & the universe. It has become distorted by the likes of Illuminati-run big pharmaceutical companies & other Illuminati disinfo sources to keep people from truly breaking free of the invisible bondage by distorting what was the original purpose of these plants & its proper application in the appropriate setting & preparation.
Shamanic healing is more complex than just doing your "thing". It's a recipe for disaster. [color="#0000ff"]A shaman is there for a reason. He's not just a decoration[/color].
The Amazon is being destroyed by big Illuminati oil companies as well as the erosion of the rainforest for big lumber companies, just as they are doing so in Siberia, Australia, Asia & Africa as well as Russia.
The difference being, that the Amazon has such a wealth of plants that only grow in those conditions that by now most of them are in danger of being forever destroeyed - and with them the tribes that are robbed of their traditional ways of life extinguishing their indigenous knowledge & thus further emprisoning those who rely on 'outside' sources to keep 'em further down in their own hellhole.
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