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How do you ascend?
#21
"how do you know we would go mad everyone is different so you cant speak for everyone"

Eesh! Touchy!

Well, how many things can you do at once?
What is the most you've ever done?
What is the sum total of what you've ever done? Or sum total of the most you've ever done?
How about doing all those things at once, and keep doing them, and add in other realities or the most you've ever done at once in those, and keep adding more and more realities and play all those realities at once? Like multitudes of possibilities for all the movies you've ever watched playing all at once that just keep multiplying. How about you do all those things with a wig, how about you do all those things bald, or with black hair, or blond hair, or standing on stilts or with a clown suit? Make however many clones as you want - you're doing all them!

What I think is... you obviously haven't thought of all the possibilities!

Endless possibilities, endless realities. Stewart who has actually tuned in to some of these realities (some, SOME!) says "there's realities where the nazis won the war..." etc etc. Every possibility in the entire universe, added to the possibilities that extend simply from you, part of a single soul personality. And yet another alternate reality is made every time you make a decision. With every occurrence, in every turn...
So the juggling and the stilts don't get easier. Not the more your actions increase, not the more your thoughts increase... (did I mention that whatever you can imagine already exists someplace, somewhere...?) unless you've progressively advanced to such a point - to such a point you're so far up you can see many if not all of the things happening below. Because you have vision, because you've seen it before (and you KNOW it...)
Mr Swerdlow's own example is that it is like giving the keys of a fancy sports car to a kid - it simply should not be done. And this is a most proficient example, (aside from being great advice for kids) even if as an adult one should still know how to drive and even if one should still know how to drive even if it's -not- a red hot sports car! Why? Well, Kundalini activation, it's not a race, you know.

As Rodrigo Soto says, another important thing is focus. Like your past lives, (which are also your alternate realities, as all are simultaneous) you're not supposed to dwell on them because you're supposed to live as you are now.
That's why you're here. And the each and every one of yous is quite responsible for his (or her!) advancement. And you WILL live if you're not living the best you can already, it is simply an unfortunate delay you are are so desperate or attached to getting to a higher level. If you want to advance, then go ahead, no one's stopping you. Except for the reptilians - and the agenda - and maybe your personal enemies - eh, anyhow they can only do those things to us because we let them. Point is, why not actually go out and make it happen instead of otherwise?

Of course I'm not trying to speak for everyone. In other realities, I'm sure there's other selves who are rightly activated; as the purpose of alternate realities is to explore all possibilities. That being, some of them are most likely aware of you, some of them are most likely aware of each other, you're just not aware of them. But what we've allowed for ourselves in THIS reality, no, it is not likely you will find someone who is so advanced as to be aware of the endless possibilities and ever expanding realities that extend into infinity of themselves. It would be bold to bet otherwise! This is simply one of the realities we should be very careful. We can change that of course, but I wouldn't go activating my Kundalini full on just yet.

But anyway, wasn't this topic about YOU? Are you simply frustrated you are not ready yet?

Can you really rush a flower, or is the subtle bloom its own gentle process? It's probably already happening, just not as quick as you like. I told you impatience was involved!

Best of luck, hope you end up happy - hope you can wait 'till then!
(You will find some of your other selves are very patient - and some really know great car advice when they hear it!)
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#22
I disagree with Mr. Soto's logic I find that knowing about past lives would be beneficial because it would be more important to know the mistakes from past lives and not have to relearn them through experience in the present life. It would also be easier if everyone knew their purpose of being here. I've heard hundreds of theories as to why we are here but the absolute truth has not been revealed yet. I don't think ascending would drive me mad and you obviously have not thought of the possibility that my oversoul can handle it.
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#23
I totally agree Hissil, most of the work I do involves past life-streams, and I find it incredibly important to know the energy absorbed, not so much who you were but what you felt emotionally, it provides many answers to why you experience particular things now.  
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#24
Risky, if one wants to activate the Kundalini before its time.
That's what I'm talking about.
When one activates the Kundalini gaining awareness of multiple realities - at once - it's not about "okay, this is too much for me so I'm just going to let my Oversoul handle this."
Of course the Oversoul can handle multiple realities at once - I believe that is one of their purposes.
There are many other yous and they are all in constant contact with the Oversoul. It is simply a matter of the soul personality being aware of these things and whether the time is right.
Like I said, it's a natural process, and one of the examples I used was a flower. It will happen on its own time.
If you want to make things happen, there's plenty things to work on.
I would work on those before attempting something so powerful and therefore dangerous as the Kundalini.

People repeat lessons all the time. I rather them not, but they will repeat as much as necessary. Unfortunately, many grow horizontally instead of vertically.
But we know better. Our connection to our Oversouls has been affirmed.
I never said one shouldn't review their past lives. Though it is not absolutely necessary as one has already viewed their past lives as has their Oversoul.
I would like to review my "past" lives, though perhaps only what is necessary as there are endless amounts of such lives.
When I can I will, but I will not get overly involved as if you get caught up (say you were a famous person, and become obsessed, regardless of whether you were already obsessed with the famous person or not) then that can certainly take away focus.
We already have enough lessons with focus and being grounded in the now as is.
I would also ask my Oversoul how appropriate the reviewing of past lives is, and how much time is appropriate to spend viewing such lives - and which ones.
Because I don't know of how much I am here is to correct past mistakes rather than living and learning now.
I am likely in a different situation - likely in an entirely different situation - that offers another multitude of lessons.
... Perhaps lessons that require focus or concerning focus.
I can always ask my Oversoul why I am going through what I am now, if it is necessary, if I have repeated it before, what did I not realize, and what I need to do.
After all, the Oversoul provides answers also.

I am not saying ascending drives one mad period.
Otherwise why would there be such a thing?
I am saying there are positive ways to work on ascending and there are negative ways to try and ascend.
For example, trying to ascend through being rushed and desperate would not be best.
Any of us can ask our Oversoul if we should attempt ascending the way we are trying to now, how best to ascend, and when.

That all having been said, one can proceed at one's own risk.
Good luck.
May your Oversoul guide you.
And may you hear its voice when it does.
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#25
Ive gone mad, ive gone crazy................
Does God know where it came from? Are we here to figure it all out for God? To Experience it all for God? Is this all a mistake this crazy world....? How many million times must i endure pain and suffering just so I know its not good? Are you telling me that we can Ascend? Ascend to where and to what? Are we to ascend above God? Are we to be Gods equal? Do we ascend to become angels? Do we ascend to become spies? Will you go to where I ascend to? If I ascend will i become bored and want to come back?
I had a dream, and when i woke up I wanted to go back to sleep because i was still mad and crazy............
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#26
What is ascension and what are these other dimensions and how are they perceived I wanna hear from an explorer of other dimensions what its like.
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#27
Quote:Does God know where it came from?

The Swerdlows say God doesn't know where it came from, and thus to find more answers and explore itself here we are. But there are other reasons we could be here - to better ourselves or to grow up or get closer to God the lower parts in him, or to realize there is God even in his/her negative life forms/things or to learn our individual lessons or to see if we need to learn and how much.
Anyway, I think if all the answers are within us then somewhere within God he can understand where it came from and why it is here - or simply accepts that it is. Perhaps it is just the logical part in us that needs the answer - perhaps we can make logic of the illogical.
For example, we can accept that it is not logical to jump out of a window because one will die, but it does happen and people can live. I think each of us could also accept that there are parts of God (being everything) which are less logical or perhaps just things that don't seem logical at first but really are - auras can be explained, for example. Though it is taken as a less logical approach or even a completely non logical approach. But more people believe in them when they can see them on cameras.
I thought awhile ago that if God is God, God doesn't need logic to be here, does it? Because it is. It is surely not impossible for it to be is it, because it is? That is a sort of proof. Yet we can still be left wondering how and why...
And I wonder if a person simply finding their OWN truth and their OWN purpose would be enough. Maybe that's why we're here. Because we each have our own purposes. And when we know that, that's God knowing that, because all of us and all of everything basically makes up God. Maybe when we each find out our own truth, the totality of God will. Maybe so, maybe no...
Scientists don't believe in God like they don't believe in magic. But I don't believe the rock that exploded into everything got there for no reason coming out of nowhere propelled by nothing especially if God didn't. The thing is... it is more logical for a magical God to magically appear than a non magical rock to magically appear... and magically explode... and create a non magical creation...
My revelation is that God could come out of nothing. This makes sense to me, if I should accept that generally the feminine is the negative and basically the male is the positive. Feminine/masculine or negative/positive is the smallest polarity you can narrow it down to. The number 2. First there is 1 but if there is a number 1 there has to be a number 2... and so on. First there is nothing, which is negative which is feminine. That creates the opposite, which is like a sort of balance and masculine and feminine create creation.
It is interesting it would then all seem to come down to balance... Because I've found balance to be the best universal solution to everything.

Quote:Are we here to figure it all out for God? To Experience it all for God?

God is within us, I think he knows our pain, understands us and loves us. One could think of it as being lab rats, more easily so if they think of God as a cruel scientist, but I don't think that fits with God. Why don't we change the perspective?
Would you have rather lived and loved and been sad then never have lived or been at all? I love existing. I wouldn't want non existence. And with that existence, and pain we also get joy and all the positive stuff. With our existence, we also have rights. For example, God isn't going to annihilate us when he's done with us, so to speak. We have a right to exist. And we have free will - we can choose not to experience the negative, but then we wouldn't be much the wiser.
So remind yourself of all that when you start feeling sad or gloomy. Because if the time comes you no longer need to experience negativity or you've learned all you can learn from it, when you're where you're supposed to be and truly want to be, you can have endless days of laughter.
There is no way to be sure of what is to come, our best option is to remain optimistic as not to make it worse than it is and trust in our inner guidance for direction.

Quote:Is this all a mistake this crazy world....?

If it is, then it is a wonderful mistake.

Quote:How many million times must i endure pain and suffering just so I know its not good?

I think it is about learning all we can and exploring all we can explore, not self punishing as if we are doing a favor for God.

Quote:Are you telling me that we can Ascend? Ascend to where and to what? Are we to ascend above God? Are we to be Gods equal? Do we ascend to become angels? Do we ascend to become spies? Will you go to where I ascend to? If I ascend will i become bored and want to come back?

A lot believe we can ascend. I do think there is something greater. I do not think our typical everyday mundane lives is all there can be. Especially when I consider how vast the world is and how many possibilities it contains. Is the great galaxy there simply so we can marvel at it?
Surely I don't know what we ascend to... I just think it will be worth it. And if I do get bored 'up there' what should I do? Stay down here, at a more victimized level? As long as there is a choice, I don't think I would choose that. I do think however I would miss this place - compared to a planet with aliens or weird Star Wars stuff like that this planet seems a lot more appealing to me. But who knows, it will be a ride. And there is a lot to see. And much more to learn.
If we are to ascend above God then that would mean God is ascending above itself - advancing itself to be the best it can be.
Angels have delegations, and I much think it is to help us. Also thinking that angels are higher 'divisions' let's say of us I don't think we would become angels. That sounds more like Sylvia Browne, what with becoming spirit guides for others after we die then advancing which doesn't make much sense when you think about it. Nor does becoming spies for whatever reason at the moment.
Perhaps we have unique ways of getting to the same destination. Perhaps our different paths will lead us different ways. I don't know, I'm only still just trying to keep the shrubs out of my face.

Quote:I had a dream, and when i woke up I wanted to go back to sleep because i was still mad and crazy............

Don't let them convince you you're crazy. You're not the one trying to take over the world.
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