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Media Deliberately Ignores Ron Paul
#11
That's true. Sadly people vote by party. Independents don't have a chance. People have short memories too. When it come to the economy people forget Obama inherited Bush's mess. We had a balanced budget before Bush got into office. It's going to take a hell of a long time to straighten Bush's mess out and if the people vote for another republican the mess will get even worse.

Republicans believe in the ignorant trickle down theory that doesn't work. They try to convince people if you give the rich tons of tax breaks that it will trickle down to everyone. I say we need a trickle up system. Give tax breaks to the poor and middle class and the money will trickle up to the rich. They own everything, how could it not trickle up.
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#12
Obama inherited messes just like every president inherits messes. No more, No less. Unfortunately, Obama had made really bad deisions about the economy and has made things a lot worse.

In this last budget crises, he had to raise the debt ceiling. That should never have been done. I agreed with the Republican side on that issue. Raising the debt ceiling is like giving a family who is heavy in debt a few more credit cards to spend more and pay more back with interest. Better advice would be to cut expenses and live within their means.

This country will never recover unless the government cuts spending drastically. All they talk about is cutting Social Security, Medicare, etc which is a scare tactic. There are so many other huge spending programs that can be cut and many unnecesaary state projects funded (remember the bridge to no where in Alaska) and reasearch projects that research nothing that can be cut. These are what politicians do to buy votes from other politicians for their own pet projects.

It is so corrupt, it is impossible to describe. Thats what I like about Ron Paul.. He proposes closing down actual departments that have no purpose yet cost billions.
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#13
[user=3]Richard[/user] wrote:
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Republicans believe in the ignorant trickle down theory that doesn't work. They try to convince people if you give the rich tons of tax breaks that it will trickle down to everyone. I say we need a trickle up system. Give tax breaks to the poor and middle class and the money will trickle up to the rich. They own everything, how could it not trickle up.


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Richard, if you define the rich as large corporations getting big tax breaks, I agree. But when the families earning 250,000 and up are targeted by Obama, as the rich, I tend to disagree. Believe me, they are paying very high taxes in their tax bracket with no tax breaks. They really are paying their fair share. Many in that category are small businesses or proffesionals who spent time and money on education and hard work. To deny them, would be too much like Socialism. You would take away their incentive to work and get ahead.

The big corporations which should be targeted are friends and buddies of the government and pay high political contributions for parties of their choice, then it becomes a conflict of interest. I don't hear government going after them very often. Some large corporations like GE pay no taxes . Go after those companies.
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#14
BlueMoon Wrote:In this last budget crises, he had to raise the debt ceiling. That should never have been done. I agreed with the Republican side on that issue.
Lets not forget that John Bonner said the republicans got 98% of what they wanted in the new budget. You can't blame the new budget on the democrats.
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#15
BlueMoon Wrote:Richard, if you define the rich as large corporations getting big tax breaks, I agree. But when the families earning 250,000 and up are targeted by Obama, as the rich, I tend to disagree. Believe me, they are paying very high taxes in their tax bracket with no tax breaks. They really are paying their fair share.
Everyone isn't paying their fair share percentage wise. Percentage wise people making over $250,000 are paying less than everyone below them. I feel the poor should pay no income tax and the rest of the people should pay the same percentage.

Because of tax breaks many people making over $250,000 pay little or no tax. They have it figured out that if you eliminated all tax breaks and set the tax rate at 10% the government would have more money than they would know what to do with. Think of that, everyone only paying 10% income tax and the government rolling in money. Doesn't that sound better than the current system?
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#16
It sure does, Richard.

As for the republicans, it was 42 republican senators who held unemployment hostage until bush's criminal tax cuts for the rich were made Permanent Forever. That was a big "fu*k You!" to America, and those people are all guilty of Treason.

How did the First American Revolution start, anyway?

The Only way Anything is going to happen is if Everybody STOPS being a bunch of spoiled, selfish, cowardly bitches.
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#17
Actually I agree with the flat tax. Everyone should pay their 10%-15% share and all the corporations would have to pay their share without any tax breaks or credits. The amount of extra money collected in taxes from the corporations alone would be enormous.

BTW, I was not praising the Republicans. I just liked their budget plan better before they made so many compromises on the debt ceiling and the way too little spending cuts.

Make no mistake, I do not support any party. I hate them all equally.
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#18
A flat tax will be fair when everybody gets the same pay.

When the people who crashed our economy; the bankers, brokers, economists, lobbyists and politicians, all Traitors, are deprived of their Ill Gotten Gains, stripped of their thousand dollar suits, pulled from behind the wheels of their Rolls Royce cars and Obscene Marble mansions and sent to the same prisons as their hookers and drug dealers, Then we can simply Start Over, with Real money backed by Real treasure (Gold, Silver, Gemstones) and build a New, Green economy with food, medicine, education and good jobs for every American, and the rest of the world will follow right along, because they will have No Choice.
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#19
One can only wish.
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#20
True, perhaps, but One Million can cause a fuss, and One Hundred Million can (non-violently) Force the issue, Easily.
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