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Mexico swine flu deaths spur global epidemic fears
#31
I've been having flu like symptoms for the past week. I hope it isn't swine flu. It feels like a regular flu that I've gotten before. In the fall I sometimes get the flu but getting this time of year surprised me.
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#32
I'm always surprised at the number of people that think the flu is like a stomach or intestinal virus.  I had the Hong Kong Flu when it went around in the 70's.  I was younger and healthy then and it was horrible.  Fever was 104 and I coughed with every breath.  If I got the flu now that I'm older and have compromised immunity, it would probably kill me.  So it scares the jeebers out of me, but isn't that the desired state?

I hope you're feeling better, Richard, and that it is just a cold or something.
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#33
Richard,What are you treating your symptoms with ? I 've found echinacea/goldenseal tincture works well . Hyssop is excellent too. I also take zinc and rose hips and garlic. Also sea salt baths do help but you already know that:)

Hope you feel better soon.

 
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#34
Thanks MN,

I've been eating chicken soup everyday and drinking lots of tea. I take tons of herbs and supplements too. I got the flu from DT. She had it for a few weeks before it finally got to me.
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#35
Aww DT! Are you feeling better DT ?

I'm beginning to wonder if I had it. My legs hurt sooo bad and I had a headache and I was soooo tired.I thought it may have been due to anemia but now I'm not sure.
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#36
Mercy Now Wrote:Richard,What are you treating your symptoms with ? I 've found echinacea/goldenseal tincture works well . Hyssop is excellent too. I also take zinc and rose hips and garlic. Also sea salt baths do help but you already know that:)

Hope you feel better soon.

 
Isn't it interesting that 400 years ago this advice was considered witchcraft, but many of these old remedies work quite well.
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#37
Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes

Tudor Vieru
Softpedia
Thursday, April 30, 2009

Recent developments in the analysis of the H1N1 swine influenza virus have shown that the lethal viral strain does not combine genes from humans, birds and pigs, as first thought, but that it’s rather made up of a combination of two swine flu strains, which, brought together, are deadly to us. Scientists studying the strains have told Wired that the find may help researchers get a better understanding of how the virus acts, as well as of what methods could be employed to limit and eventually stop its spread.

“This is what we call a reassortment between two currently circulating pig flu viruses. Why it’s emerged in humans is anyone’s guess. It hasn’t been seen before in pigs, as far as I know,” University of Edinburgh Viral Geneticist Andrew Rambaut, who is involved in the H1N1 investigation efforts, explained. He worked on analyzing viral samples collected from two children in California, which were diagnosed as carriers of the swine flu strain.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) harvested the viral samples, and then made the genome sequence available to a number of research teams around the world, under what was known as an international database of flu genomes. Though Wired could not obtain an immediate response from the American authorities, documents released by the agency to scientists seem to confirm the suspicions that the lethal strain is actually made up entirely of pig genes, without any other additions.

Swine Flu Does Not Contain Human and Bird Genes

The experts said that the two strains involved in the new pathogen were the North American and the European pig flu. The former was first described in the 1930s, while the other was thoroughly analyzed and described in 1979. How they combined is still a mystery, but geneticists argued that the “active ingredient” in the mix, which allowed it to become contagious to humans, was the neuraminidase enzyme, which coded the N1 designation in H1N1.

“The new neuraminidase gene that came in from Eurasian swine is one we’ve never before seen circulating in humans. That’s one of the reasons it’s spreading rapidly. Very few people will have any immunity to this particular combination, which is what gives the concern that this will be a pandemic rather than just a normal seasonal flu outbreak. It remains to be seen how much and to what extent there is existing immunity,” Rambaut added.

“Influenza virus mutates remarkably rapidly, so there is no doubt that the virus will mutate and evolve in humans. Quite what this evolution will result in is difficult to tell,” University of Pennsylvania virus evolution specialist Eddie Holmes concluded.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/swine-flu-do...genes.html
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#38
Texas Doctor Claims Swine Flu Cases Far Worse Than Reported

Up to 25 times more victims than official figure, hospitals overwhelmed, virus already at level 6 pandemic phase

Texas Doctor Claims Swine Flu Cases Far Worse Than Reported  

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, April 30, 2009

A doctor in Texas claims that swine flu cases are at least ten times worse than officials are letting on, and that hospitals are becoming overwhelmed as the virus has already crossed the threshold to be considered a phase 6 global pandemic.

Dr. Marcus Gitterle, an emergency medicine physician based out of New Braunfels, Texas, sent out an internal alert which contains several stunning claims about swine flu that, if true, officials have presumably sought to keep from the public.

“After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County and Hays County, (name removed) suggested I send an update to my patients in the area, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is different from what you are hearing in the media,” writes Gitterle.

The doctor claims that the actual number of confirmed cases of swine flu is 10 to 25 times worse than has been reported, and that people are not recovering easily, as has been claimed, but that many Americans are in fact seriously ill.

“The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each “confirmed” case right now,” claims Gitterle.

“This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old in Houston is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life,” he writes.

Gitterle’s mention of a “23 month old in Houston” obviously refers to the Mexican toddler who died on Monday night and was announced as the first U.S. fatality on Tuesday morning.

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Quick access to drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza, as well as ventilators, is preventing fatalities on the scale of Mexico, but Gitterle warns that “within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed”.

Gitterle warns, “ER’s south of here are becoming overwhelmed — and I mean that — already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.”

The doctor states that the severity of the situation has already crossed the threshold of the definition of a WHO phase 6 pandemic. “This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory,” he writes.

Gitterle claims that President Obama is being advised to declare a national emergency and that this could happen within the next 48 hours.

“This may not happen, but if it doesn’t, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days minimum,” writes the doctor.

Gitterle advises people to avoid all public gatherings, especially those held indoors, to avoid going to their ER if they feel ill, and to take the nutritional supplements N-Acetyl-Cysteine and Oscillococinum. He recommends Relenza as a more powerful drug than Tamiflu but warns that supplies of both drugs are running out fast.

The doctor states that swine flu is infectious for about two days prior to symptom onset and that the virus can spread for more than seven days after symptom onset. The symptoms are the same as normal flu, although it has been discovered that swine flu causes a distinctive “hoarseness” in many victims.

“Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no “herd immunity,” so the “attack rate” is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatic. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The “clinical attack rate” estimation from CDC and WHO may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this to those outside of the medical fields,” he writes.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/texas-doctor...orted.html
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#39
Ramping up the fear for the new improved vaccine .
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#40
Mercy Now Wrote:Ramping up the fear for the new improved vaccine .
Yes, that's a big point; it's also the idea to enforce people to accept new government vaccintions programs for all kind of ages.
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