Mind Control Cults

[Octahedron]

Thanks, I was just trying to honestly describe my experiences with SJ. That was a good comment by you in describing me as a volunteer as I've never thought of it that way as expansion's followers just follow. They do their daily practices and rituals and initially seem to be satisfied. I myself, reverberated my chakras clockwise & counterclockwise, the t-bars up and down and the green spiral stair wherever it took me lol. I even created all these in my imagination as it was an expectation in expansions to do so, or you would be missing a very valuable practice. It sounds funny, but it shows how people could be so easily manipulated by an individual or group by just feeding you "lie sandwiches", toning your cares away, giving far-out earthly scenarios that literally keeps you attached to their show. People should use their own logic and mind to see for what it really is as a people controlling cult.

Interesting post. 

What would you say if some of these outcomes are not imaginations only, and then you report your found info back to SJ. What do you think this information can be used or misused for ?

Did you ask yourself already this question ?

Take care.

[wanderer]

I chose to follow expansions since 2002 and became familiar with their hyperspace rituals and information. As time went on I began to question the real value and effectiveness of their practices/rituals. I kept the comments to myself as I thought that I probably wasn't doing something correctly in the techniques which I had to correct. In time I eventually stopped doing the basic practices and just produced and created their DVD seminars.

I finally chose to stop to do voluntary work for expansions in 2010 and tried to communicate my experiences as best as I could in the forum. I also still feel that the hyperspace techniques didn't help me.

[Richard]

the hyperspace techniques didn't help me.

They didn't do anything for me either and I always wondered if the people who claim they work for them were just getting a placebo effect.

[wanderer]

Honestly, if the hyperspace techniques were really so effective then why is there such an exodus of veteran followers from expansions.  In addition I didn't see any spinoff groups or consultants using the hyperspace techniques on the internet either, except for Benjamin's site in Romania.  Apparently, the evidence speaks for itself even with the lack of paid attendees at the seminars.

Also, I  wouldn't think that expansions had the the rights to the use of "hyperspace" either as it has other meanings related to space travel even though that term is always linked to SJ. 

[Richard]

A couple people here like Octahedron and iqhunk claim some of them work. Then MC claims they work and has a forum of a dozen or so members that claim they work. That's why I wondered if it was the placebo effect with them or some other factor.

[wanderer]

I agree with you on the placebo effect in the use of the hyperspace techniques which has people focused on the tools instead of the mind or thought processes. I think visualization serves as an additonal step and is being given credit for the positive results instead of the mind or thoughts being directly recognized.

The values in the use of the hyperspace techniques that were initially presented to me at expansions: The goal was to help you use more of your mind,  balance your right and left hemispheres so that you can live a more balanced and creative life,  go within to get answers but go to god-mind for the ultimate answers in living your life and tone often. These initial goals are no longer valid for me and have been replaced with " evolve your consciousness" which also involves love which was not one of the goals fostered in expansions.

[iqhunk]

I have taught certain Hyperspace Techniques to at least a dozen non-expansions members, and the results were certainly not a placebo effect.

The techniques were supposedly taught to Stewart by a person named Marianne. He has not grasped their complete usage or maybe he has been sabotaged to not grasp them completely.

Vedic Traditions also use Hyperspace Techniques using "Yantras", especially with many triangles. Some of those who succeeded with them have attained "Siddhi" or great Clairvoyant powers, and some even attain safe Kundalini Rise.

We have to use the techniques smartly, especially by doing our own research. Depending on Swerdlows as the ones having the last word was a primary mistake by many ex-expansioners. That Brown Merger did a number on the Swerdlows. If a sabotage symbol works, then logically the correct symbols with the correct colors also work but they need not work in the same way for all people.

Some people need just verbal affirmations to get their work done, some need crystals and some just need a swelling up of emotions in their Heart Chakra.

[yukesam]

Hey Iq,

I think I have a good question for you. I have asked Octahedron about his avatar in this forum if he can change because I believe it surely affects peoples’ thought. I think he answered me very well and sincerely why he preferred to keep it in private.

But I’m wondering what you have to say about his avatar?! Now let me be clear that no matter what you said it will not alter my respect to you and Octahedron which we earned it hard ways. We disagree on certain issues but who doesn’t? I am just interest in your perspective about his avatar.

 

[yukesam]

Hey Octahedron,

Iq isn't taking the risk analyzing his friend's avatar , no problem , ha ha :)

How would you describe your own avatar? I am not even relate this with Stewpid I swear because he is worthless since hyperspace archetypes is not even his. He stole it and act like its his own. What a slimy scumbag he is. Just briefly tell me what it supposed to do or mean? I'm telling you I'm just curious. Well, it does give me headache sometimes but it's OK. I just don't look at it. :D

[Octahedron]

Hey Octahedron,

Iq isn't taking the risk analyzing his friend's avatar , no problem , ha ha :)

How would you describe your own avatar? I am not even relate this with Stewpid I swear because he is worthless since hyperspace archetypes is not even his. He stole it and act like its his own. What a slimy scumbag he is. Just briefly tell me what it supposed to do or mean? I'm telling you I'm just curious. Well, it does give me headache sometimes but it's OK. I just don't look at it. :D

It's lion frequency template, the amateur level; just for beginners; It's a test version made by an old member from here SI, by digitalizing a paper scan. 

it can give headache, yes; but it's not dangerous in general. 

the interesting is the shape of the aleph in this picture, it took me quite some effort to get this shape. So, that's the story.