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Missing French jet hit thunderstorms over Atlantic
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By ALAN CLENDENNING and GREG KELLER, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 2 mins ago

SAO PAULO – A missing Air France jet carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris ran into lightning and strong thunderstorms over the Atlantic Ocean, officials said Monday. Brazil began a search mission off its northeastern coast.

Chief Air France spokesman Francois Brousse said "it is possible" the plane was hit by lightning.

Air France Flight 447, an Airbus A330, left Rio on Sunday at 7 p.m. local time (2200 GMT, 6 p.m. EDT) with 216 passengers and 12 crew members on board, company spokeswoman Brigitte Barrand.

About four hours later, the plane sent an automatic signal indicating electrical problems while going through strong turbulence, Air France said.

The plane "crossed through a thunderous zone with strong turbulence" at 0200 GMT Monday (10 p.m. EDT Sunday). An automatic message was received fourteen minutes later "signaling electrical circuit malfunction."

Brazil's Air Force said the last contact it had with the Air France jet was at 0136 GMT (9:30 p.m. EDT Sunday), but did not say where the plane was then.

Brazil's air force was searching near the archipelago of Fernando de Noronha, about 300 kilometers (180 miles) northeast of the coastal city of Natal, a spokesman said, speaking on condition of anonymity in keeping with department policy.

The region is about 1,500 miles northeast of Rio.

In Washington, a Pentagon official said he'd seen no indication that terrorism or foul play was involved. He spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the subject.

Douglas Ferreira Machado, the head of investigation for Brazil's Civil Aeronautics Agency, told Globo TV the plane could have been near the coast of Africa by the time contact was lost, based on the speed it was traveling.

"It's going to take a long time to carry out this search," he said. "It could be a long, sad story. The black box will be at the bottom of the sea."

Air France-KLM CEO Pierre-Henri Gourgeon, at a news conference at Charles de Gaulle Airport north of Paris, said the pilot had 11,000 hours of flying experience, including 1,700 hours flying this aircraft. No name was released.

"We are without doubt facing an air catastrophe," Gourgeon said. "At this time, the plane's fuel reserves would not permit it to still be in flight."

He said the plane was "very far" from Brazilian coast when last contact was made, without providing details.

Aviation experts said the risk the plane was brought down by lightning was slim.

"Lightning issues have been considered since the beginning of aviation. They were far more prevalent when aircraft operated at low altitudes. They are less common now since it's easier to avoid thunderstorms," said Bill Voss, president and CEO of Flight Safety Foundation, Alexandria, Va.

He said planes have specific measures built in to help dissipate electricity along the aircraft's skin.

"I cannot recall in recent history any examples of aircraft being brought down by lightning," he told The Associated Press.

Experts said the absence of a mayday call meant something happened very quickly.

"The conclusion to be drawn is that something catastrophic happened on board that has caused this airplane to ditch in a controlled or an uncontrolled fashion," Jane's Aviation analyst Chris Yates told The Associated Press.

"I would suggest that potentially it went down very quickly and so quickly that the pilot on board didn't have a chance to make that emergency call," Yates said, adding that the possibilities ranged from mechanical failure to terrorism.

Families who arrived to meet passengers on board were cordoned off, away from reporters, at a special Air France information center at the Charles de Gaulle airport. That center said 60 French citizens were on the plane. Italy said at least three passengers were Italian.

"Air France shares the emotion and worry of the families concerned," Barrand said.

The flight was supposed to arrive in Paris at 0915 GMT (5:15 a.m. EDT), according to the airport.

Air France said it alerted planemaker Airbus and France's civil aviation investigation office, known by its French acronym BEA.

If all 228 people were killed, it would be the deadliest commercial airline disaster since Nov. 12, 2001, when an American Airlines jetliner crashed in the New York City borough of Queens during a flight to the Dominican Republic, killing 265 people.

On Feb. 19, 2003, 275 people were killed in the crash of an Iranian military plane carrying members of the Revolutionary Guards as it prepared to land at Kerman airport in Iran.

Airbus said it was cooperating with transport authorities and Air France, but would not further comment until more details emerged.

"Our thoughts are with the passengers and with the families of the passengers," said Airbus spokeswoman Maggie Bergsma.

The Airbus A330-200 is a twin-engine, long-haul, medium-capacity passenger jet that is 58.8 meters (190 feet) long. It is a shortened version of the standard A330, and can hold up to 253 passengers. It first went into service in 1998 and there are 341 in use worldwide today. It can fly up to 7,760 miles (12,500 kilometers).

Rick Kennedy, a spokesman for GE Aviation, expressed doubt that the engine was at fault. He said the CF6-80E engine that powered the Air France plane "is the most popular and reliable engine that we have for big airplanes in the world."

He said there are more than 15,000 airplanes flying in the world with that engine design and GE Aviation officials were on standby to help.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy expressed his "extreme worry" and planned to visit the Charles de Gaulle airport later Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/brazil_plane;...luZ2ZyZW5j
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Plane debris found in path Air France jet took

By MARCO SIBAJA, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 8 mins ago

BRASILIA, Brazil – Brazilian military pilots spotted an airplane seat, a life jacket, metallic debris and signs of fuel in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on Tuesday as they hunted for a missing Air France passenger jet that carried 228 people. Brazil's Navy said three commercial ships in the area were joining the search.

The pilots spotted two areas of floating debris — but no signs of life — about 60 kilometers (35 miles) apart, about 410 miles (650 kilometers) beyond the Brazilian island of Fernando de Noronha, roughly along Flight 447's path from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.

"The locations where the objects were found are toward the right of the point where the last signal of the plane was emitted," Amaral said. "That suggests that it might have tried to make a turn, maybe to return to Fernando de Noronha, but that is just a hypothesis."

Amaral said authorities would not be able to confirm that the debris is from the plane until they can retrieve some of it from the ocean for identification.

Brazilian military ships are not expected to arrive at the area until Wednesday. But Brazil's Navy said in a statement Tuesday that three commercial ships in the same vicinity as the debris were diverted from their normal routes to help with the search.

The discovery came more than 24 hours after the jet went missing, with all feared dead.

Rescuers were still scanning a vast sweep of ocean extending from far off northeastern Brazil to waters off West Africa. The 4-year-old plane was last heard from at 0214 GMT Monday (10:14 p.m. EDT Sunday).

If no survivors are found, it would be the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in the New York City borough of Queens that killed 265 people.

Investigators on both sides of the ocean are trying to determine what brought the Airbus A330 down, with few clues to go on so far. Potential causes could include violently shifting winds and hail from towering thunderheads, lightning or some combination of other factors.

The crew gave no verbal messages of distress before the crash, but the plane's system sent an automatic message just before it disappeared, reporting lost pressure and electrical failure. The plane's cockpit and "black box" recorders could be thousands of feet (meters) below the surface.

The chance of finding survivors now "is very very small, even nonexistent," said the French minister overseeing transportation, Jean-Louis Borloo. "The race against the clock has begun" to find the plane's two black boxes, which emit signals up to 30 days.

Borloo called the A330 "one of the most reliable planes in the world" and said lightning alone, even from a fierce tropical storm, probably couldn't have brought down the plane.

"There really had to be a succession of extraordinary events to be able to explain this situation," Borloo said on RTL radio Tuesday.

French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said France could shift its search operations closer to the site of the Brazilian discovery "to help them map all the debris on the sea."

France has three military patrol aircraft flying over the central Atlantic from their base in Senegal and it is sending an AWACS radar plane that should join the operation on Wednesday, he said.

"The mission is to try to understand where the Airbus crashed. We will find that from the position of the debris we find on the sea," he said.

French police were studying passenger lists and maintenance records, and preparing to take DNA from passengers' relatives to help identify any bodies.

France's Defense Minister Herve Morin said "we have no signs so far" of terrorism, but all hypotheses must be studied.

Alain Bouillard, who led the probe into the crash of the Concorde in July 2000, was put in charge of France's accident investigation team.

President Barack Obama told French television stations the United States is ready to do everything necessary to find out what happened.

On board the flight were 61 French citizens, 58 Brazilians, 26 Germans, nine Chinese and nine Italians. A lesser number of citizens from 27 other countries also were on the passenger list, including two Americans.

Among them were three young Irish doctors, returning from two-week vacation in Brazil. Aisling Butler's father John paid tribute to his 26-year-old daughter, from Roscrea, County Tipperary.

"She was a truly wonderful, exciting girl. She never flunked an exam in her life — nailed every one of them — and took it all in her stride," he said.

The Airbus A330-200 was cruising normally at 35,000 feet (10,670 meters) and 522 mph (840 kph) just before it disappeared nearly four hours into the flight. No trouble was reported as the plane left radar contact, beyond Brazil's Fernando de Noronha archipelago.

But just north of the equator, a line of towering thunderstorms loomed. Bands of extremely turbulent weather stretched across the Atlantic toward Africa.

France's junior minister for transport, Dominique Bussereau, said the plane sent "a kind of outburst" of automated messages just before it disappeared, "which means something serious happened, as eventually the circuits switched off."

The pilot had 11,000 hours of flying experience, including 1,700 hours flying this aircraft.

French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said that if the debris is confirmed to be part of Flight 447, "This will allow us to better determine the search zone."

"We are in a race against the clock in extremely difficult weather conditions and in a zone where depths reach up to 7,000 meters," he told lawmakers in the lower house of French parliament Tuesday.

The legislature held a moment of silence to honor the victims and the French soccer team will wear black arm bands and hold a moment of silence ahead of a match against Nigeria on Tuesday night.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090602/ap_o...VkZWJyaXNm
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Another Air France plane got bomb threat

Published: June 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM

PARIS, June 3 (UPI) -- Aviation authorities said an Air France Buenos Aires-to-Paris flight was was grounded temporarily because of a bomb threat that turned out to be false.

Officials at Buenos Aires' Ezeiza International Airport delayed an Air France flight from the Argentine city to Paris May 27 after the bomb threat was called in, The Daily Mail reported Wednesday.

Federal police and airport safety officers inspected the plane and cleared it for take-off, Argentine media reported. The search lasted about 90 minutes, and passengers were not evacuated from the aircraft.

Air France Flight 447, with 216 passengers and 12 crew members, went off radar about three hours after departing Rio de Janeiro for Paris Monday. French investigators said wreckage presumably from the plane was found in the Atlantic off the northeastern coast of Brazil.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/03/A...244048844/

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[/color][color="#000000"][size="2"]Air France tragedy: UFO connections beyond coincidence

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[color="#000000"][size="2"]Michael Cohen [email protected] [/size][/color][color="#000000"][size="2"]
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When I heard of the horrific Air France tragedy one of the first thoughts that came to my mind was the obvious 'Is there a UFO connection?, I then fleetingly thought of doing a story but decided against it as some might regard it in poor taste.[/size]
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[color="#000000"][size="2"]I feel for the victims as much as anyone but in my case and in relation specifically  to my own research the UFO connections to this accident cannot be ignored.

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[color="#000000"][size="2"]The above articles written by myself say it all and really need no explanation, but I will paraphrase:

Last year I wrote extensively about another Airbus 330 that experienced electrical failure in what I believed to be a UFO hot spot.

Earlier this year I wrote an article about two UFO sightings in Brazil. One sighting, which occurred near Fortaleza received a surprising number of government emails. A number of correspondents specifically asked if I had phone number of Mr Nilton Novaes, who photographed the UFO. The article also noted that the disc-like UFOs involved in the Urubici sighting caused electrical failure in the car belonging to the witness, who also managed to get photographs.

The last set of articles discusses my conclusion that a vortex entrance, that visiting 'unmanned' UFOs come through, exists in a mountainous region of Brazil, possibly near Fortaleza.

Government agencies are currently in Fortaleza looking for UFOs and the photo taken by Nilton Noveas (below) might well be the first government certified picture of an alien craft you have ever seen.[/size]
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[color="#000000"][size="2"]The event was a massive tragedy, however for me at least, the UFO connections cannot be ignored and this article is in no way is an attempt to exploit the event to peddle hocus-pocus. As far as I am concerned this is more real than any article that merely talks of electronics failure.

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I was wondering when we would hear this view.
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I was watching the weather channel on this flight.. they said from records of thunderstorms there was not direct lightning on the planes path....
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Air France replacing instruments as debris find is dismissed

Cargo pallet spotted by Brazilian military jets could not have come from flight 447

Air France is replacing instruments that help measure airspeed on all its medium and long-haul Airbus jets, according to a memo sent to pilots following the disappearance of one of the airline's jets over the Atlantic with 228 people on board.

Investigators have been focusing on incorrect speed readings as a potential reason for why the Airbus A330 went down on Sunday en route to Paris from Rio de Janeiro.

While the airline refused to comment on the memo, saying it was for pilots only, the Associated Press reported that Air France has been replacing instruments known as Pitot tubes.

French search teams scouring the Atlantic have so far found no wreckage and are urging "extreme prudence" about possible plane wreckage retrieved so far, France's transport minister said yesterday.

Dominique Bussereau said an earlier announcement by Brazilian officials that they had recovered debris from AF447 had turned out to be false, and that the priority was finding the "black box" flight recorders.

A French nuclear submarine has been sent to area to help locate the recorders, but hopes that bodies may be found are fading amid worsening weather conditions.

Airbus has sent an advisory note to all airlines using the A330 reminding them of how to handle the plane in extreme weather conditions similar to those thought to have been experienced by flight AF447.

Airbus said this did not imply that the doomed pilots did anything wrong or that a design fault was in any way responsible for the crash.

Air France's chief executive, Pierre-Henri Gourgeon, told family members of the missing passengers at a private meeting yesterday that the plane had disintegrated, either in the air or when it crashed into the ocean.

With the crucial flight recorders still missing, investigators were relying heavily on the plane's automated messages to help reconstruct what happened.

One theory is that outside probes that feed speed sensors may have iced over, giving incorrect information and causing the autopilot to direct the aircraft to fly too fast or too slow when it met turbulence.

The last message from the pilot was a manual signal at 11pm local time, in which he said he was flying through an area of black, electrically charged clouds with violent winds and lightning.

At 11.10pm, a series of problems began: the autopilot disengaged, a key computer system switched to alternative power, and controls needed to keep the plane stable were damaged.

The French defence minister, Hervé Morin, and the Pentagon have said there were no signs that terrorism was involved, but Morin yesterday declined to rule out the possibility.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun...s-atlantic
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Air France plane crash: two bodies recovered from Atlantic, says Brazil's air force

Two bodies of passengers from the Air France plane that crashed over the Atlantic have been recovered, Brazil's air force has announced.
 

By Philip Sherwell in Rio de Janeiro, Kim Willsher in Paris and agencies in Recife
Published: 7:28PM BST 06 Jun 2009

Debris thought to be from the downed airliner, including luggage and an aircraft seat, have also been retrieved, according to officials.

The bodies of two men were plucked from the sea 550 miles off the main coast of Brazil, apparently the first to be discovered of the 228 victims of the worst air disaster since 2001.
 
Colonel Jorge Amaral, a spokesman for Brazil's air force, said that a blue aircraft seat, a leather bag and a nylon backpack containing a laptop computer had also been rescued from the waves. The seat's serial number was being checked with Air France to confirm that it came from the missing Airbus 230 that came down over the sea on June 1.

"We confirm the recovery from the water debris and bodies from the Air France plane," he told reporters in the northeastern city of Recife.

A plane seat, a nylon backpack containing a computer, and a leather briefcase with an Air France ticket inside were the first objects plucked from the sea, he said. One of the bags is said to contain a vaccination card.

The first body was then sighted by a navy vessel an hour later, and was quickly recovered by the ship's crew.

If confirmed as from the aircraft, it would be a significant breakthrough for seachers who have been scouring the sea for six days since the plane disappeared, apparently suffering a catastrophic series of equipment malfunctions as it attempted to fly through powerful storms en route from Rio de Janiero to Paris.

Flotsam spotted on Thursday turned out not to be connected with the crash. Searchers have been battling days of adverse weather - with rain limiting the visibility and waves up to six feet high.

Earlier it emerged that Air France had not followed an Airbus recommendation last year to replace air speed sensors on its doomed flight 447 plane, according to French crash investigators.

The instruments are the focus of attention after automated messages sent from the Airbus 330 revealed that the three external sensors were giving different air speed readings in the final few minutes before the disaster on Sunday night.

The plane's autopilot switched off after it received the conflicting velocity data, chief investigator Paul-Louis Arslanian said, though it was not clear whether it cut out autimatically or had been overridden by the pilots. Flight 447 disappeared four minutes later, with the loss of 228 people on board, including five Britons, en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

The flurry of 24 automatic error messages sent to Air France headquarters indicated that the plane was flying too slowly as it was buffetted by violent storms inside 50,000 ft high "thunderclouds" over the Atlantic.

Airbus recommended last year that airlines replace the Pitot tubes, part of each Airbus 330 speed sensor, following earlier malfunctions. The tubes are believed to susceptible to icing during harsh weather - as Flight 447 experienced in the thunderstorms near the Equator.

"We have seen a certain number of these types of faults [of conflicting error readings] on the A330," said Mr Arslanian. But he stressed that it was "far too early to conclude" that faults with the sensors played a role in the crash, and said that planes could fly safely with the old systems.

Recommendations are issued frequently by manufacturers of air parts and do not indicate pressing safety concerns, aviation experts said. In critical cases, orders rather than recommendations are issued.

According to an internal Air France memo leaked to Le Monde newspaper on Friday, the airline has begun replacing the sensors on its Airbus fleet.

The memo did not say when the process began and Air France declined to comment on the reports as an investigation was underway.

Airbus issued another memo last week for pilots on the corrrect speed and angle for flying the 330 model in bad weather if speed indicators give conflicting readings and the autopilot cuts out.

The internet site EuroCockpit quoted two previous incidents in which alarms sounding after the air sensors malfunctioned on long-haul Air France flights on the Airbus 340, the sister plane of the A330. In Brazil, Globo newspaper reported that the Brazilian airline TAM received a recommendation to replace the sensors as far back as September 2007.

Peter Goelz, a former managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board, said that advisory and the Air France memo about replacing flight-speed instruments "certainly raises questions about whether the Pitot tubes, which are critical to the pilot's understanding of what's going on, were operating effectively."

Airbus confirmed it had issued a "service bulletin" asking the plane's 50 or so airline operators to consider changing the speed sensors, known as Pitot tubes, but said it was an optional measure to improve performance and not related to safety fears.

"There are continuous improvements and modifications on offer on any aircraft. A service bulletin is motivated by performance or reliability," spokesman Stefan Schaffrath said.

Problems linked to the speed detectors on Airbus planes were reported to the France's civil aviation authority in January, it emerged on Saturday evening. After an incident involving the detectors on a Tokyo-Paris flight, an internal memo - obtained by Associated Press - was sent to navigation officers. It said: "following other similar cases in the A330/340 fleet, a full investigation has been carried out by Airbus so the phenomenon can be clearly explained".
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...force.html
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Missed Air France Flight, Only to Die in Car Crash After narrow escape, fate catches up with Italian traveler

By  XANA O'NEILL
Updated 2:35 PM CDT, Thu, Jun 11, 2009
Related Topics: Johanna Ganthaler | Brazil

Johanna Ganthaler, from Italy, was on vacation in Brazil with her husband missed the doomed jetliner when they arrived late at the airport in Rio de Janerio.

A woman who dodged death when she and her husband narrowly missed Air France Flight 447 before it plunged into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 aboard, was killed in a car accident just over a week later.

An Air France airliner carrying 228 people from Brazil to Paris crashed into the Atlantic after a possible lightning strike.

Johanna Ganthaler a retiree from the Bolzano-Bozen province, was on vacation in Brazil with her husband Kurt when the pair miraculously missed the doomed flight to Paris. But their luck ran out on an Austrian road earlier this week when their car swerved into the path of an oncoming truck outside the town of Kufstein, the Times (U.K.) reported.

Kurt Ganthaler was badly hurt in the accident.

Flight 447 disappeared from radar shortly after leaving Rio de Janeiro and is believed to have broken apart shortly after it left the airport in Brazil on May 31 with 228 people on board.

Some three dozen bodies have been fished out of the ocean where the Airbus jet plunged into the water. A nuclear-powered French submarine has begun scouring the seafloor for any sign of the black box, which could hold the key to determining what felled the plane.

The Ganthalers flew out of the country on a flight the day after the jet went missing.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/us_world/...Crash.html
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